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a legacy combo deck capable of fairly consistent t1-2 kills.
-reanimate a griselbrand. -swing for 7-draw 14-21cards-play(or entomb, and/or reanimate) children of korlis-sacrifice children of korlis, gain a bunch of life, draw a bunch more cards- find a tendrils and storm 'em out
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I've yet to play against one of these, but I'd like to. Using reanimation tactics to achieve storm counts is just too interesting to me =]Is Emrakul simply in here for the graveyard ability, or do you actually find another use for it? Also, I can't put my finger on why, but I dislike Cabal Therapy in the deck =/
emrakul can shuffle the graveyard into the library if tendrils is stuck in the last 6 of your library and you cant draw it with griselbrand's ability. you can also play shallow grave/ goryo's vengeance in response to emmy's grave trigger to reanimate him.cabal therapy doubles as an enabler to get gris into the graveyard and set up reanimation.
I too, am on the fence with Cabal Therapy. I see where it can be useful, as you described, but I can also see how a card such as "Duress or Silence" would be more effective. Perhaps you could try out some sort of a split? Good to see you're smart enough to run Show and Tell in your sideboard since nowadays there is such a staggering amount of graveyard hate being used. As a side, your deck oddly costs nothing. I assume this is a glitch, but it's just something I figured I would point out.
Only a few questions. Why is there only one reanimate? With Griselbrand having lifelink it sorta makes it like a free way to pull him out of the grave for a really cheap cost. Plus then you can use Cabal Therapy in a more effective way by sacrificing him after he attacks and then pulling him back with "technically" losing no life. And if you use use the children of Korlis you actually gain life right? One more question is why tendrils of Agony? It seems like a higher cost for a deck that runs pretty fast without medium cost sorceries/instants...
only one reanimate because it doesn't give griselbrand haste, and your trying to win the same turn your reanimate. tendrils is the card that wins you the game. after you swing with griselbrand you only need a storm of 6 which is super easy after youve drawn almost your whole deck, you just drop some lotus petals/ chrome mox, and ramp up some mana into tendrils for the win.
Holy shit derp! Did not see that tendrils had storm on it :/ That's disgusting.
Cabal therapy, much like it is in dredge, is used to target yourself. Any way you could add ancestor's chosen in here? seems like it could be a nice target once grizzly is out.
Hmmmm.... I love it. It's the tech advantage of a Reanimator, but with a more direct pace thanks to Storm! I do believe it is tinkering time again, it's been too long since I've wanted to mess with something this badly.
Why do I get the feeling that someone looked at my deck, turned it blue and called it tin fins? :( Its a stupid name.I guess that is what I get for bringing it to a legacy tourney and having sets done in 5 minutes. Check it out though, here is the scoop. There is one card that will absolutely shut this deck down as it does mine and I'm trying to think of a sideboard to help with it. That card is called surgical extraction. Removing Griselbrand absolutely shuts down my deck, I don't know about Tin Fins.
well to be fair, i can guarantee no one ripped off your deck. Tin Fins was developed by a group of people on the source, a legacy forum. http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?24104-TinFins-3-Return-of-the-Onion-Burstas for surgical extraction shutting it down.. thats why you play discard main, and silence in the board.
So I've really liked your list awhile back and started building it (I think its yours at least I have 1 more children of korlis than this and careful studies instead of ponders) and I was just wondering if you could go over some of your sideboard strategy. I know when to use the Karakas and Show and Tells but I'm not sure when silence and bounce spells are best used or what things are best to side out.
Silence is for Tempo decks or any deck running Stifles and lots of soft counters like Daze, and Spell Pierce. Silence can get past a hand full of them much easier than discard can. Karakas can come in to deal with Reanimator, SneakShow, and Hatebears(Thalia, Gaddock Teeg). Show n Tell is to try and play around gravehate, but can sometimes be a little slow and sometimes can backfire on you. Chain of Vapor can help deal with permanent based gravehate, but it can also remove other problematic permanents like Ensnaring Bridge and Leyline of the Void/ Sanctity. Just remember, if you have already reanimated be cautious when playing Chain of Vapor because they can sac a land and bounce your guy. Wipe Away is for Chalice of the Void and Counterbalance. Choosing what to side out can be tough though. It really depends on the match up, but i usually start by shaving off a few Ponder, then Thoughtseize, then Moxes. That being said, i haven't played this in a few months and the sideboard might use some tweaking.
Awesome thanks for the quick reply.