Rebuilding the Vault Community

by DracoStorm on 24 July 2016

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Deck Description

So after being absent from the site for a little while ive come back and found my discussion on the main page. And all of your guy's and gal's feedback was really heartwarming and amazing. And all of your ideas to help and grow the Vault are amazing and awesome. Although MTGVault may have seemed "dead". You have proved that it is not. That there is still people who care greatly about this site and its resources it provides. For new and returning players alike. Do not be shy to check out others decks and like and comment( with positive feedback, or positive things in general ) Because community is what really make us magic players better.

How to Play

go out and explore other peoples decks and give back to the community so it may flourish.

Deck Tags

  • not a deck
  • Help
  • discussion about MTG
  • community

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Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Not Legal in Modern
  • Not Legal in Vintage
  • Not Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Rebuilding the Vault Community

Ever since I saw your first post I've been trying to comment and like more decks man.
But I got annoyed since people kept on just commenting on your original post because they could've been commenting on other decks such as suggestions or discussion. Either way I think you've really put the problem in the spotlight rather they already knew it or not.

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Posted 24 July 2016 at 10:24

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yes while that is true, it does help the topic grow. Even northy commented on the post.

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Posted 24 July 2016 at 17:59

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Not true, it spawned a few posts in other deck threads as well. And if this and the other "deck" hog up the Hot Page, Vaulters will be forced to look somewhere else for decks, which isn't bad ;)

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Posted 25 July 2016 at 06:28

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Liked, to help get this to the front page too.

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Posted 24 July 2016 at 12:44

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I actually went on your profile to look at your decks and I saw this and I would like you to know I like what your doin, keep that shit up.

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Posted 24 July 2016 at 20:25

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thank you fury, it really means a lot. whatever i can do to help.

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Posted 24 July 2016 at 22:38

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Nicely done DracoStorm, keeping the community alive is indeed very helpful.

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Posted 25 July 2016 at 09:46

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Anyone else notice that since these posts got to the front page that there's been an increase in the number of people actually tagging their work and / or using the deck description / how to play sections? Or am I just imagining things?

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Posted 25 July 2016 at 11:15

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Also an increase in likes or comments in new decks

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Posted 25 July 2016 at 11:38

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https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/30622138.jpg

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Posted 25 July 2016 at 11:50

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Yes i have seen other decks getting liked and commented on, as well as mine even! And I have contributed to that as well.

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Posted 25 July 2016 at 14:42

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The hope I have is that people will start leaving thought out feedback, or just feedback. I know sometimes I havent but that is when I come accross a deck that seems to be abandoned by the community but the OP is just staring at the deck waiting for a comment. Ive been a user for 6 years and this is what I find to be the most useful!

People: Ask questions, Leave suggestions, Do something that makes it look like you thought about the deck.

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Posted 25 July 2016 at 14:20

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I always do that but the only way to get comments is to directly ask others for it. Found that out the hard way. Which is why I always offer advice in advance. You can call me out any time if you need advice on any of your decks as long as there is something to work with (and I am not into standard)

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Posted 25 July 2016 at 14:58

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Grove of the Guardian? May I suggest one of the following as the titular/thumbnail card of this "deck"? :
- Rebuild
- Knowledge Vault
- Disciple of the Vault
- Revive
- Reconstruct
- Call to Glory

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Posted 25 July 2016 at 15:11

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i generally stick with lands for cover arts if i can, they usually tend to be prettier and don't have a color indicator at the top.

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Posted 25 July 2016 at 22:02

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Not sure if this is the right place but it feels like there needs to be a better system to promote new decks, I can't really think of the changes that need to be made but it seems like the new decks tab is just an endless wheel and to be honest having so many decks made kinda leads to a lack of conversation and ongoing community. A few. Things that might help
1 - More than 4 tags, maybe 8, with the mandatory tag of format, casual vs competitive, finished deck vs seeking advice

2 - As well as more tags, a more refined new decks section, sub sections for standard, modern, legacy and subs sections for casual, competitive, and trying to get competitive

3 - If the deck is going to be public then there needs to be options that are identified, such as legal formats of the deck, if it's casual or competitive, if it's budget.... Maybe next to the name the estimated costs should be shown, and maybe if it's a deck that's after feedback... Someone trying to make it competitive

4 - A reward system for starting/contributing to conversations... Maybe a voting system like yahoo answers, where people can give appreciation to good comments, I know we have something like that now but it's obviously needs more emphasis, I use to play path of exile and one of the things they did in the forums was give badges and profile rewards to those who supported various projects, again not sure. Someone more creative can think of something better

5 - Maybe a new way to outline deck critiques, it seems that a good way to encourage conversation is to make it easier to outline feedback/Card suggestions. Possibly giving the ability to link cards and card images in the comments

I'm still unsure of how these would be done but these are just a few things.

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Posted 25 July 2016 at 16:04

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Yes, I thought the same about the tags. Actually I already prepared a text to suggest this as soon as the Forum works again (which was promised would work work "soon" - well, this was months ago ...)

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Posted 25 July 2016 at 16:11

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It's probably a financial thing more than anything, but there seems to be options out there as far as crowd funding goes.

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Posted 25 July 2016 at 16:17

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Also, is there a way to search for several tags at once? It seems you can only put one tag into the search engine.

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Posted 25 July 2016 at 21:59

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TappedOut has advertisements for random decks. Maybe we could get that going. There should be a few new things added, that would help the community. Maybe if you could playtest two decks against each other? This might not help the community but there should also be better search functions...

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Posted 29 July 2016 at 05:43

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First of all, thanks for the feedback.

I hate the hot page. We built it with good intentions, but it just hasn't worked. I want to change the main homepage tabs to be the major formats, then underneath each of these we could filter by hot/new/unloved as well as filter by user tags. Do you think that could work?

A big issue we had in the past with letting users select the format of a deck is that you end up with decks marked "Standard" that have rotated out. We are trying something in the background at the moment to auto-tag decks with a format. It could be as simple as untagging "Standard" decks when cards rotate.

I like the idea of giving users recognition, we tried to do this with comment upvoting and user reputation, but I don't think this really worked. maybe the addition of aschievements/badges would help that would be displayed against your username in all comments to make to show how much of a badass you are?

I love the idea of forcing decks to be tagged with certain key information such as casual/competative/1v1/multiplayer etc. I will look into this.

Cheers!

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Posted 29 July 2016 at 11:22

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Gonna point out most standard decks are modern legal, and those are normally legacy legal as well, so there should be something to prevent them showing up in the eternal formats

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Posted 08 August 2016 at 07:20

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I don't know how well it will work, if at all, but I started a new deck for the community to build together. Thought it might be a neat way to get some conversation going. I will put the link below. Just head on over and post a card to be added. My idea is to make it an EDH deck to allow the largest amount of cards.

http://www.mtgvault.com/llchurch/decks/community-edh/

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Posted 25 July 2016 at 16:43

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Personally, I check the new decks every day and will always comment on any deck that is tagged as multiplayer and give it a free like whether I ultimately like it or not. I feel most comfortable and have the most experience in this arena so that where I focus my comments. The problem is most multiplayer nowadays is EDH which I have absolutely no clue about. But again, I won't even click on a deck that doesn't have a tag. Moreover, I won't bother to comment if once I have there is no description/how to play section. (unless it was a multiplayer non EDH deck that is).

My advice is find a few people who plays decks like you. Comment on theirs and ask for advice on yours. In my case Puschkin makes decks that fit my playgroup and is able to give me advice. I know I can do the same for people who tag their decks multiplayer. Prime example is my vampire deck. Never made the hot page, but I was able to get some great advice and tweak it and have some options.

http://www.mtgvault.com/biggeorge76/decks/the-children-of-the-night/

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Posted 25 July 2016 at 19:35

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They should add a Commander section for deck building, so you don't have to place your commander in the Sideboard to show it.
Maybe add a toggle for normal 60 decks and EDH decks.

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Posted 25 July 2016 at 21:35

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this.... just this!

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Posted 26 July 2016 at 09:05

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bump to save the vault community :)

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Posted 26 July 2016 at 05:36

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Thanks for the feedback on my deck! ultimately it is things like this that turn casual lurkers like myself into involved members, which is what sites like this need.

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Posted 26 July 2016 at 08:56

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If I may suggest posting "decks" named after formats or general topics and then the community post THEIR decks into the discussion.
This way we could make little collections and would also make the acces to decks easier alswell as generate more likes and feedback...
DonĀ“t know if thats a good idea but certainly wort a try.

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Posted 26 July 2016 at 09:05

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Too many decks. Those lists would be confusing and cluttered in no time.

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Posted 26 July 2016 at 09:11

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Then maybe with a litmit about 10 or so? If we would use this a a menas of "restarting" the community everbody would respect the limits I guess?

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Posted 26 July 2016 at 09:14

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It would be better to have a "deck" for each format and then, instead of decks, it lists PLAYERS that are active in this format. I did that already on a private level here and it worked (for a while at least).

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Posted 26 July 2016 at 09:21

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The first thing to do is close the "hot" page and only look there like once a week
Then open the new page and get going.
Also check out Mekkakat! http://www.mtgvault.com/mekkakat/
He's pumping out an interesting idea after an interesting idea.

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Posted 26 July 2016 at 12:46

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I've now been adding the term 'Advice?' into my name line. I was thinking, if we start putting it as a Tag on decks, then we can find people who are looking for discussion on how to improve their ideas, as well as just liking decks we enjoy the build of. Any thoughts?

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Posted 26 July 2016 at 19:53

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You can just put the tag "help" into your deck instead of putting it into the title. Makes it seem a little more confident in your own work too.

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Posted 27 July 2016 at 02:28

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Ok, so let's add help into tag lines for idea stimulation.
Already done on a few of my decks.

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Posted 27 July 2016 at 13:51

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I usually do "needs work"

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Posted 29 July 2016 at 05:46

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I started a little something:
http://www.mtgvault.com/puschkin/decks/mtgvault-the-gathering/

If you want to revive the site, take action and join!

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Posted 27 July 2016 at 10:14

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Also check out the site I linked on this deck/forum I recommend to anyone who wants to test decks they build on this deck against real players without proxy.

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Posted 27 July 2016 at 13:55

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This is great stuff. I'm thankful for all of you contributors! I'm sure to find some great new ideas moving forward.

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Posted 27 July 2016 at 21:36

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No one has looked at my stuff though.

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Posted 28 July 2016 at 04:18

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Ditto. I'm putting decks up with help tag too.

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Posted 28 July 2016 at 16:29

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Furyoftheboros, maybe it is because most of your decks don't even have tags?

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Posted 28 July 2016 at 22:36

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You're awesome, I like you. Keep up the good work man! :)

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Posted 29 July 2016 at 11:13

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Gary are you the creator of this site? Cause from Puschkin a few comments down you seem to be important.

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Posted 31 July 2016 at 19:05

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Yes, Gary and I are THE CREATORS. That sounds awesome :P

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Posted 31 July 2016 at 20:11

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Definitely awesome.

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Posted 02 August 2016 at 10:18

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Haha, check out Ian bigging himself up. :D

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Posted 02 August 2016 at 11:59

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Forums are back

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Posted 30 July 2016 at 10:25

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That's great. I guess the moderators have been reading these. We won't need decks like this anymore

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Posted 30 July 2016 at 15:40

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Gary red these.

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Posted 30 July 2016 at 18:36

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who is gary? and thats amazing! yay forums!

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Posted 31 July 2016 at 19:03

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Gary is just one of the creators of this site.

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Posted 01 August 2016 at 09:32

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Hi, I don't get as much spare time as I would like to work on the site, but I am still here and I am listening!

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Posted 02 August 2016 at 11:05

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Maybe we could set up Community Game Nights and Testing Nights so people can play and test decks with others wanting to do the same. We could use the site Untap.in or a program like Cockatrice.

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Posted 12 August 2016 at 13:21

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Sounds like a really good idea!

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Posted 12 August 2016 at 13:23

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Cockatrice has been taken down by WotC.

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Posted 12 August 2016 at 14:23

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It's back up as far as I can tell.

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Posted 12 August 2016 at 14:57

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No:
http://www.cockatrice.de/

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Posted 12 August 2016 at 15:02

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cockatrice.github.io

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Posted 12 August 2016 at 18:53

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@TheKinginYellow you... I like you...

Organize it !!!!

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Posted 12 August 2016 at 19:12

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@mrgop1 I go to school and have a full time job. I don't really have time to organize something like this.

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Posted 12 August 2016 at 19:23

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Shit... same for me ;(

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Posted 12 August 2016 at 19:40

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Love this site/forum. It has helped me develope and improve on the way I play & build decks. Having a complete breakdown by the numbers is a huge help, along with sample draws. A much easier way than trying to play a deck solo. Would like to see the Vault thrive again, at the very least, to help out new players and builders. I just have a couple of suggestions for the site......

1) More than 4 "Tags" on a deck
2) Clicking "Not Legal in..." link marks each card in the main deck
3) Facebook/Twitter log in and share options

Thanks and keep up the good work!

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Posted 26 August 2016 at 23:25

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There was an idea to have a few specific tags, such as legality; player number; etc.,

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Posted 27 August 2016 at 01:34

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Like that idea. More tags = More chances to be seen.

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Posted 27 August 2016 at 01:41

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I love this site. It's really helpful when I build my commander decks, and I love getting feedbacks on my decks.

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Posted 09 October 2016 at 03:22

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that is really nice to hear. And im sure many commander players will give feedback. sadly i am in the middle about commander, i like it, have played it just never found a deck i liked.

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Posted 13 October 2016 at 03:58

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^^ The comments and feedback on this site has gone down. Commander or not. I almost never get feedback any more, sadly. But I keep using the site

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Posted 13 October 2016 at 19:01

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I have two forums going that fit here. One is a forum where you can just post obscure tribal decks and advertise on them as long as you check out other peoples decks, while the other is a thing I'm trying to start up. Also try to check the forums pretty regularly, since there aren't notifications for them yet. I think they're working on them though.
www.mtgvault.com/forum/thread.aspx?ftid=9880
www.mtgvault.com/forum/thread.aspx?ftid=9908

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Posted 13 October 2016 at 21:27

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http://www.mtgvault.com/vaan104/decks/legacy-staples/
my stab at getting the vault moving again i hope to get some talk going

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Posted 06 December 2016 at 10:36

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Just go check out this guy: http://www.mtgvault.com/mekkakat/
K?
Like, the creativity and the amount of different decks he's made, WOW!

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Posted 06 December 2016 at 15:50

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