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Starter Budget -series is variation of my famous(?) Budget Decks -series.In this series, I attempt to create decks that go great for starters:They do not have extremely valuable or complicated cards. Most of them are simple commons and uncommons.Though, this doesn't mean that these decks aren't threat. In right hands (and with some practice, of course,) they can overwhelm very tough opponents.These decks are meant for those who have just dived into the mysterious depths of Magic: The Gathering, or to those people who like simple and cheap decks. Or to just anyone!Budget is meant to be low! (Less than 15 bucks.)(Remember: If you are new player, do not be afraid to ask if you have questions. Northy has always time for newbies!)
Just some sweet mono-black fun for the newbies who handle those mean and bit complicated abilities.Have fun!
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nice decck +1 like
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Thanks.: )
cool deckmaybe despise+1
Throwing it right into the sideboard.Thanks.
Very nice!
Can you look at my new deck Northy? http://www.mtgvault.com/erniekemp444/decks/possible-surge/
noobs might not understand the card advantage of paying life for cards with sign in blood
Right you are. They might not do so.
wait...no quag sickness? that card is boss (for mono black it is basically -3/-3 on a creature or more depending how far in the game it is)
Too bad Quag Sickness is not standard anymore... It was reprinted in M14, no?
yeah i literally just pulled it in a pack XD
Nice list! I love that mogis's marauders with a couple creatures ends the game. +1 from me
What is a black starter deck without Drudge Skeletons? My first deck was built around him. Its easy to understand, it can take most removals and it can chump block anything.edit: Never mind I didn't realize this is standard.
It's okay mate. We all make mistakes.
Ruthless Ripper instead of rats. Murderous Cut may see some game. Your decks are great, bro.
Oh god, it remains me so much about my first deck :D
Nice to hear that I brought you some memories. You new to Magic?
Pretty much ;d it will be a year or something ^^
This looks more like a teach a new player the game deck than one you'd want to send a new player to FNM with. If we're shooting for a black control deck like from last season, why not something more like this:4 Brain Maggot4 Herald of Torment $1/each4 Squelching Leeches3 Disciple of Phenax4 Gray Merchant of Asphodel1 Soul of Innistrad $1.501 Whip of Erebos $3.504 Despise3 Bile Blight3 Signed in Blood3 Murderous Cut1 Read the Bones1 Silence the Believers24 SwampSideboard:4 Drown in Sorrow3 Dark Betrayal3 Pharika's Cure2 Stain the Mind1 Silence the Believers1 Read the Bones1 Agent of ErebosYou could even spruce it up a bit with Erebos, God of the Dead for $2.50 a piece who is very well positioned right now in a format of Whip of Erebos, Siege Rhino, Jeskai Charm, Soul of Theros, Courser of Kruphix, and Wingmate Roc. Empty the Pits is another nice addition at around $1. This list could actually win an FNM and is still cheap and noob-friendly.
Honest about the original deck, giving suggestions to make it more competitive. Good guy muktidata. I would strip out the Disciples of Phenax, Soul of Innistrad, and Whip of Erebos though. Disciples are just not a big enough body, and you don't play enough with the graveyard for the other two. 4 Gray Merchant of Asphodel2 Erebos, God of the Dead4 Squelching Leeches4 Herald of Torment4 Brain MaggotSeems like a great place to start with a control/devotion list3 Erebos, God of the dead4 Herald of Torment3 Mogis's Marauder4 Mardu Skullhunter4 Bloodsoaked Champion4 Tormented HeroIs great for monoblack aggro.Both are affordable, with easy upgrades as soon as the user can afford Thoughtseize and/or Hero's Downfall.
A one-of whip made the cut for a long time in Mono Black last season because it added devotion and served as inevitability alongside Gary and Demons. The floor on Whip of Erebos is that it gives all your guys Lifelink. The ceiling? Whipping back Gary. How do you fill your graveyard with creatures? Play them. If they die, you get even more value from Whip. If they don't die, aren't you just winning? The Mono Black deck boasted three things (in addition to out-racing anyone via Pack Rats): 1) Your opponents threats don't stick.2) You're drawing more cards than your opponent.3) Gary and Whip save you from a slow start and give you an incredible long game. (Whip was removed toward the end)Those aspects of the deck are pretty easy to port directly into the current Standard. Disciple of Phenax is devotion on a stick, a blocker, an un-biased discard spell, and a Whip target. It's not great, but I don't think he's terrible considering how slow the format can be. On the play you're thwarting Rhinos, Cruises, and Whips. On the draw, Rocs, Dragons, and Walkers. Soul of Innistrad is just a fatty and card advantage machine that dares your opponents to double-block him after which he fills up your hand. Seems fine to me.
Aggro list:4 Tormented Hero4 Gnarled Scarhide4 Pain Seer4 Spiteful Returned4 Herald of Torment4 Mogis's Marauder4 Bile Blight3 Crippling Blight2 Murderous Cut2 Boon of Erebos1 Ulcerate1 Whip of Erebos23 SwampSpruce it up with Bloodsoaked Champion, fetches, Thoughtseize, and Hero's Downfall if you have the money.
I honestly dislike Whip of Erebos. And I'm a Sidisi Whip player. It just seems like taking a turn off most of the time when you play it, and so I almost never want to play it unless I'm about to Whip back a Hornet Queen or Sidisi the turn after. I concede that it's great with Gary, I just don't think he's much of a lightning rod for removal and you have no way to mill. So it's mostly lifegain... In a deck with 4 Garys. The reason that Whip was better last season in monoblack was also because it synergized with Pack Rat ditching stuff and it was a great way to recover from a D- Sphere or Supreme Verdict. Don't get me wrong, I think Whip and Soul are good cards and decent inclusions, I just think you could probably do better with those slots. I would just put Erebos in instead, as a phenomenal way to shut out most of the midrange in the formatI don't think that Disciple of Phenax is really a reasonable inclusion. If it was a 2/2 or better, I would be on the same train as you. But I've just always hated using the card because of how terrible it is for attacking. I wish it was a 1/1 with deathtouch or something.Also Bloodsoaked Champion is not very expensive. It doesn't really belong on the list with the other 3.But hey, although I might nitpick over the details, I like your FNM version that you posted. And I think we can all agree that no Child of Nights or Gurmag Swiftwings should be appearing.
Fair enough. The Bloodsoaked suggestion was for an aggro version. I appreciate your assessments and yeah, no pack one pick twelves in my standard decks...
+1 from me. My stepson is thinking about getting into Magic and I don't play black all that much yet alone mono, so of course that's the color he wants to play. So I think I'll have him try this out thanks Northy.
You are welcome.
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This comment was the same as the first one so I just deleted it my bad.
Excellent as a starter deck! I'd love to see a full sideboard though:( well done on the budget side as well
Another great deck Northy! It's always refreshing to see a great deck builder help out the new players! +1 from me!
...and it's always refreshing to hear that people like my decks!
Nightmare is such a classic card-good to see it in here.I think this deck captures the essence & power of black in a strong way for newer players.Interesting timing, when I signed on the other day my whole point was to make decks for beginners, b/c most of my friends don't play Magic-and I wanted to have something ready in case they wanted to learn-then I saw that you had posted this and saw that we were aligned haha.http://www.mtgvault.com/wlinezanelli/decks/intro-deck-sylvan-peasant/
nice build can you please check my first deck? thanks :) http://www.mtgvault.com/ricekbedding/decks/riceks-first-deck/
Of course.
sweet mono black deck
Thanks!
Northy, northy, northy. Here is the deal. I want to trade some cards into a card company.I want a budget deck of each color. I already have a black budget deck (i need 4 Dimir Machinations to make it complete).I already have a green budget deck (i need 3 Argothian Wurms to make it complete).I already have a blue budget deck complete. I need one for red.I need one for white. With you having hundreds of budget decks, and a lot of your followers make good budget decks.So here goes, people:What is the best red or white budget deck?With red decks, I can make them, but they are expensive with stuff like Goblin Guides and Chain Lightning. With white decks, I can make them, but again, they are expensive with stuff like Enlightened Tutors, etc. So far: the budget black deck I picked was: Spudshaver's 11 dollarshttp://www.mtgvault.com/spudshaver/decks/mono-black-turn-1or3-win-13/So far: the budget blue deck I picked was: 15 dollarshttp://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/best-15-deck-on-the-vault/So far: the budget green deck I picked was: 34 dollarshttp://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/control-is-blue-right/So I am looking for a white or red budget deck between 10-35 dollars. That are fun to play and win you games.
Please, anyone have any ideas?
Kiln fiend combo for red. Cheap and can get turn 2 wins. Budget white I would go mono white humans, soul sisters and martyr of sands are really cheap. I'll work on one now
Here you go, Jessie. I combined Red and White for a budget burn list for you:http://www.mtgvault.com/muktidata/decks/b3-budget-boros-burn/It should be both powerful force at the kitchen table and reasonably cheap to build.
http://www.mtgvault.com/zaklax13/decks/kiln-combo-budget/
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What kind of budget deck? Standard? Modern? Legacy? Doesn't matter? Probably modern?
Most like Legacy for under 50 dollars.
It'll give me something to do tomorrow while I am sick. T.T
What bout my kiln find combo??????
Hum... If you take out Vesuva and Elesh Norn and perhaps Windbrisk heights from my monowhite deck you could get one for... probably under 20$ that is really fun. :P
I like how this is truly budget! I hate when I look at "budget" deck list and the estimated price is like 150-300$ and there are fetchlands and 10$ cards... that is not budget at all
How is that not budget? Budget is your price range. I make $100 modern budget decks, sorry but for $20 your not playing competitively buddy
To me, at least, a budget deck is not a deck that is a tournament winner, it's a deck you make for fun in, let's say, casual groups and where you replace verygood (and very expensive) cards for something that will sometimes be less "competitive" (Ex: replace lightning bolt with lightning strike) but will be lots cheaper... So with that in mind, fetch lands don't have a place in budget... But yet again, that's my view of budget. If your view of "budget" is 100+ dollars deck, we are not going to have fun playing together, that's my point.
We probably wouldn't.... I don't even see how $1 lightning bolts are out of budget
It was the first exemple that came in my mind... (lightning bolt is 3.80 and lightning strike is 0.50 on cardkingdom, from where i take my prices) i'm just saying that you can replace some cards that do the same thing for 1 more mana or something like that but will cost like 5 times less... It was a general exemple
I'm not trying to be mean! Sorry hard to give off the correct tone via text. Yes I do star city and the lowest they have is $1.35. Like I said though there are many types of budget, you just have to see what they are aiming for before bashing. I do competitive budget so I just felt your initial post was a bit of a bash, that if you knew what my budget goal was you would see it differently
Then we made the same mistake, I didn't meant to be mean :P I have always seen budget as "cheap" because otherwise, if it just mean creating a deck respecting a certain budget, there is no limit to it... I'm not sure if you get me as english is my second language but anyways, I apologies for the misunderstanding
Its all good