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A concept that I had come up with a while ago, but was never able to figure out completely. But, here we are: A mono-red deck that can mill! PLEASE NOTE: You are more likely to kill the player by stripping their life total then you actually milling them out, but hey, I made a red mill deck
Get out a Mindcrank ASAP, after that just play it like any other red burn deck and watch the cards fall!
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Usually a mono-red deck prevents healing with cards like Skullcrack.You decided to go with style and use milling.Hilarious. Leaving a +1 like here.
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Please share this with other people because it is a hilarious concept that people will get behind.
Sure. Anything for my friends.
Nice work s0rin, I love decks with style. You may not win all the time, but when you do, it's just that much more epic.Volcanic Hammers for extras of that 3 for 2 concept you're rockin.+1 for style points.Speaking of hilarious concepts, check this thing out. I'm quite proud of it, but feedback is always a plus. /noshamehttp://www.mtgvault.com/themoc/decks/choose-your-destiny/
I think you will kill them before they mill out
you need a way to get that Mindcrank into your hand somehow. I dont think red has any tuners though.EDIT: Magma jets and scry land.Drop Rakdos cackler, add monastery swiftspearAdd grapeshot for DAT STORM.
If you get Mindcrank in your hand, then its fine. Otherwise it is just another budget burn deck
id shoehorn magma jets in just to make the combo i bit more viable if i were u. magma jets lets u scry 2.
If you want to have a chance of having it in your hand try [c]gamble[/c]
Missing a fetch card...but that isn't really necessary because it can win with pure burn. Red does seem possible with mill.
Would love to see a red/black mill deck with Mindcrank and Bloodchief Ascension.
That is brilliant and will be done now. See you in about 10 minutes with the deck!
Done. http://www.mtgvault.com/s0rinmark0v/decks/bloodchiefs-mind-torture/
Consider yourself with another +1
reforge the soul might work or wheel of fate both refill you hand with burn and mill
have you considered pyromancers gauntlet? a koth of the hammer, chandra pyromaster and evven a ugin the spirit dragon could come in handy seeing as there arnet many creatures. keening stone is a niice touch too. anyone fancy cheking out my decks?
I hope u don't mind but i would like to copy this deck to share the idea, youll get all the credit. But i want to let people know that this is possible.
Go right ahead! It's always good for people tobsee things like this
i have a red/black mill deck if anyone want to see it http://www.mtgvault.com/robbty/decks/draw-to-die/would like sudgestions how to make it better
Bit of an issue here... you've tripled the difficult job of killing your opponent rather than just burning them
I made a note that you will almost always burn them, but if they gain back the life, then you mill them
Pretty funny but you would burn them to death before you milled them. I guess It's good for life link users (like me :D)
That does seem to be the downfall...that most of the time you will burn them before they ever get milled out. But it is neat...sorta like 2 Win conditions in one deck. And 2 Win Cons is never a bad thing.
It isn't really a second win con, because burn can't really manage 50ish points of burn in the average game
would it be better to add bigger creatures? i thought of it 2 but don't have many that come 2 mind...
Best I can think of is Thundermaw Hellkite, and that takes 10ish attacks to mill
Interesting, you mean you do not think he could do enough damage to mill the opponent out of cards. If that is true...which it may be...I know of a card that would be very nice. Eidolon of the Great Revel. It makes it to where you do not need to do 50ish points with only your cards. Your opponent would essentially mill himself every time he played a spell for 3 mana or under. And Whitelord has a good plan too. If the small direct damage can't manage 50ish points of burn...why not a big fatty like Ball Lightning? If only Mindcrank exchanged damage for mill. If instead of Lightning Bolt doing 3 damage and milling 3 cards...if it only milled the 3 cards...that would be swell. It would be insane...and probably easier ways to do it...but it would be neat if you somehow made the opponent gain life. Mill, gain life, mill, gain life, mill, gain life.
Life gain isn't huge in any formats, but Eidolon is a beater! Ball lightning sacing itself might be an issue, I really think the Mill just screws the fluidity of Burn, it was a nice idea, but tripling the way you win and throwing 4 slots away doesn't sound like the smartest plan
And that is why I suggested, to the good sir, to do a red/black Mindcrank deck with Bloodchief Ascension :)http://www.mtgvault.com/s0rinmark0v/decks/bloodchiefs-mind-torture/
For Modern? Na bro, all about streamlining burn to deal 20 damage in as few turns as possible, Mill is tough in modern because you need to do 50 'damage' while as everyone else only has to deal 20 damage
Sorry...I meant as a Casual Player. Yes, for Modern Tourneys pure burn is better than mill. For a Modern kitchen table deck the Bloodchief deck is neat.
what? no Book Burning?
not funny >:(
I was just thinking exactly that haha needs Book Burning.
oh, i didnt know that was a card, lol i feel dumb now.
Altar of the Brood?
Grindlock would probably help, and Mesmeric Orb too.
Some Guttersnipes would do pretty well with all those instants.
Another awesome deck man! Definitely +1 here.
Okay, so this deck doesn't make sense since all that Mindcrank does is almost tripling the amount of damage you have to do in order to win. It would be a cool concept if Mindcrank would work for all players (because then you would have more time, too) but nooo, Wizards doesn't print symmetrical cards anymore ...Okay, you have a red mill deck now but honestly, you could just use a Keening Stone in a red deck instead and call it a "mono red milling deck" ... it wouldn't even be slower.However, if you want to put Mindcrank to good use, all you need to do is to couple it with Duskmantle Guildmage! Activate him with Mindcrank in play and the next card put into his graveyard or the next life he loses will kill him! However, it would mena playing black and blue ...... but the trick also works with Bloodchief Ascension. Drawback would be that you need it to get active first, but on the plus side it costs only one mana and no blue. Would fit perfectly into an otherwise red burn deck like this!EDIT:Oh and if you don't want to go that route and really, really want a red mill deck ... then please do it right and add Wheel of Fortune, Wheel of Fate, Memory Jar and maybe Howling Mine ... that would keep your hand filled with burn and whittle away the opponent's library at the same time (and you'll draw into Mindcranks faster). This might actually work since once you have more than one Mindcrank, you'll mill more than one card per damage done.
Pity that Memory Jar is only legal in Vintage and EDH, not Modern.
Defiantly +1 from me cool concept. How about doubling your damage with curse of bloodletting (could use more then one to double and triple damage) of furnace of rath (not sure if that would affect you as well) then if you can get some ways to ramp into those cards (mana rupture) then you can get those cards out quick to help mill/burn
I imagine you defiantly giving this a +1. Like "Don't tell me how to upvote!"
Great idea! Going into the SB for now
Replace flame javelin with Lava Spike?
sOrinmarkOv my man! Havent you been listening to da teachings of tha wicked??? Ya gotta play mesmeric orb! Tha orb will mill your opponent for moving! Tha orb will mill you when ya burnz stuff! Tha orb will let ya use flashbacky burnz! Use tha orb my man!... Simply dis tha cranky stuff and git winning with milly burnz Wicked out!!!
I don't know the orb and I was away for a few days and there were 26 NEW COMMENTS. If I know the orb then I will consider it
mesmeric orb: 2 whenever something untaps, it's controler mills 1 per untap.
Including lands?
Lands are permanents, so, yes. I have multiplayer Mesmeric Orb deck and it works wonderfully.
Here's the red flashback available! http://magiccards.info/query?q=o%3Aflashback+c%21r&v=card&s=cname lava dart will support monastery swiftspear, I'd also use faithless looting to either find mesmeric orb or throw more flashback in the grave. And lastly, noxious revival may let you take advantage of anything that gets in your grave, plus it can stall your opponents combo/reanimate strategy!
perhaps we could contemplate the concept of haveing more then one mindcrank out at a time. or is this not applicable?
Yes, with blue and stuff like Clever Impersonator and Copy Artifact. But if you are already using blue...there are better options than Mindcrank.
I what talking about having two or three mindcrancks out all at once there effects would all trigger due to a spell so the milling would increase, that seems the only thing people are considering right now.
How is this a mill deck?Just because of the mindcrank? That doesn't make it a mill deck.In singleplayer it is just 20+ damage via spells and a side effect of 20+ milled cards, so he/she is long dead before the deck is ever gone.You can even do that without any creatures, but if you want a creature in there it's the guttersnipe to accelerate the damage.Now that will hurt in multiplay as well...A few sizzles in there and presto.But in the end it's still just a burn deck..
Yup, that is about right, mind crank might help your opponent as well xD
It suffers from the same problem in multiplayer. Sizzles or lighting bolts, people will still die from the damage way before they would get milled.
And modern has a tonne of ways to use the graveyard, you basically draw storm 3 cards each time you bolt them
I still say go the long route and make it white and Mindcrank. Stuff like silly Wall of Shards. Make them keep gaining life as their cards dwindle.And you hide behind protection. Very slow. Issue would be how to pull off the damage though.
There is only one mono white mill deck in mtgvault database...that means I am definitely making one!!!
Mono-white mill gave me herpes.
A mono-white mill deck would be better off using Mesmeric Orb or Keening Stone rather than Mindcrank. Mindcrank ist probably the worst of all options for white.
Mono-white mill has to be about as great as a Mono-Green burn deck.
Or mono-red not aggro ;)
There you go good sirs. Does it work? http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/mono-white-infinite-mill/Step 1. Myr MoonvesselStep 2. Grinding StationStep 3. Enduring RenewalKeep sacking the Myr moonvessel to Grinding station. Each time opponent mills 3 cards. Enduring Renewal brings back Myr moonvessel to your hand. You replay Myr Moonvessel with the one mana you got when he was originally sacked. When Myr Moonvessel hits the table Grinding Station untaps. Repeat the process!!!Works, right?
Yep, works. Now lets please hurry to make a mono-green one, too, to complete the cycle so we can move on and build regular decks again :P
I would like to talk with you about this deck concept. There is a realistic way to mill someone with red, and i've built the deck, if you'd like to hear about it.
Altar of the Brood (1 coloress mana artifact) each time you put a perm down ( a land or creature ect) ea oppenent mils a card.Burning Inquiry (1 red mana) each player discaRDS 3 cards and draws 3 cards (almost like mil)mindmoil and winds of change are two cards to cycle through your deck to get the things you want faster.Reforge the Soul (Could be 1 colorless 1 red for miracle) or 5 mana total. Sorcery. Each player discards their hand and draws 7 cards. (x4 mincranks all on the field at once would take at least 12-16 damage to mil them) Likely hood of you getting all 4 = 2% There is probably a better way to mill or add ways to do this.MY MONO RED! ^)^ comment please! http://www.mtgvault.com/mmmjkx2/decks/burn-and-turn/
I can't tell if I love or hate this deck. Regardless, you did something silly and creative so you get a +1 from me.
lol maybe ghost quarter because it thins out opponents deck by 1
No, it's a MAY effect.
.....Plus it sucks
oh did not know that
Have it, used it, hate it.
Neat deck, hilarious concept, but i feel like this is going to be strictly worse than most mono red burn decks.Even a spark jolt would probably be more productive than the mill artifacts. That said, maybe it will work once or twice. Who knows?
Interesting idea.. althought not purely dedicated on milling like Imperial recruiter+ Painter servant + grindstone in legacy but seems this has potential modification in Modern.I think if u want to involve Orb maybe you should thinking about cards with Flashback or creatures with Unearth ability
I think you might like to see another perspective. :D Why burn the face, when you can just burn everything else? http://www.mtgvault.com/imfromnasa/decks/monored-mill/MWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Anyway, thx for the idea.
book burning might be nice but I don't think its modern legal
Please try on cockatrice before putting stupid decks on
Trash deck. Please delete this garbage
WHOA MAN thats not nice. just because its trash to burn someone to death and call it mill doesnt mean he deserves that comment
lmao. I went to GP last year. I bet you main Selesnya scrub.
No, I do a mana ramp that could destroy you like predator drone against a NIgerian
Suck Emrakul loser
I'm actually black IRL. Reported for racist comment. Enjoy your AIDS
Check your black privilege stupid tranny
Ewww. SJW trash
if i was SJW i would love black trannies like you, but really i am a smart person and hate idiot's like you.
TOTALBOSS666: Don't feed the troll! It's never worth the effort discussing something with someone who loves to discuss. I've been trolled since forever, and first thing you learn is that you either engage trolls for years to come or just ignore them for your own inner peace to be restored. ANKLAMERE: Going to a gp does not imply automatic professionalism, and if you have any, you will find that you learn more by not annoying people involved. Your mono black control attempt could use some adjustment for example! (Is talking about his black deck, when he's a colored dude, racist in any way?)
I actually think they are just having a bit of banter, but if you want competitive like me, come over to Brainstorming http://www.mtgvault.com/gothy/decks/brainstorming-here-be-dragons/
May I also make note that I have explained before that this is more or less a CONCEPT deck. You DON'T HAVE TO mill them, it's just a bit of fun and it pisses me off to no end when people like Anklamere comment like that
do we really need to worry about racism? why are we letting colored people ( in particular black people) rule our right to speech, i mean really, this ANKLAMERE guy started the hole argument, and yes, an eye for an eye makes the whole world bind, but his comment was really mean. Please note I mean no offence however u must understand my side of the argument.
Doesn't help you are Whitelord ;)
GOTHY: Hey, a handle doesn't mean anything! I'm wickeddarkman, and the only dark thing about me are my weird mental thoughtpatterns :D
Oh ye I know, my handle is quite the opposite of me, just was an amusing joke to me xD
Guess people are like that in general. I googletranslated anklamere into danish, and got the result "prosecutor more", but that can be because of a similarity to "anklag mere" regardless of what anklamere's real name it seems symbolic :D
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if you cant say something constructive don't post anything. not all of the decks on vault are supposed to be tournament decks some are casual or just fun ideas
because you run 20 lands, I would suggest shock or wild slash instead of lightning strike because usally a strike would cost you a turn
Sorry man, but logic calls out: if his deck has 60 cards, isn't he dead three times before you mill it?
Not if they're playing life gain.....It's also to throw the opponent off
John is right, there is literally no point in the mill when you could just chuck more burn at them
I have still made my point that red can mill #missionachieved
Shit. I just turned 12 again
Cool deck, i have one with similar idea. Added life gain and draw. Have you thought about book burning. basically a mill card like blue, but red. The enemy has to chose 6 damage or 6 cards in graveyard from library. Please take a look at my deck - "Mill & burn or mills and boon"
dam this is a ok deck