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Modern deck utilizing graveyard and discard-friendly mechanics like madness, flashback and unearth. This deck is still a work in progress, but I have play-tested it a bit and it is pretty effective. I think once I have a fleshed-out sideboard in mind it will run really smoothly. Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated!
Ideally you get a Liliana out to become this deck's engine, as she allows you to make your opponent discard as well as yourself. The deck's card draw with Faithless Looting and Tormenting Voice, coupled with the bountiful kill spells at your disposal, should allow you to clean the board up in your favor by the time a Liliana and/or strong creature board for yourself materializes. Madness, flashback and unearth give this deck some incredible flexibility.
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Not sure how I feel about the aristocrat, we'll have to test it because without spirits or bloodghast she is pretty flimsy. I think she definitely could work, but I'm not sold. Also nightshade seems pretty hit or miss. I think if you can pop it off turn 3 or 4 it could get rid of something annoying but late game I think it's mostly an underpowered 4 drop. Also you are revealing your hand which is easily overlooked but can effect the game. Overall it's hard to say anything without playtesting since it is an odd deck. I'll try to look up some possible additions/replacements later on today
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Kolaghans command = instant speed madness which can trick some fools up. Especially if you have madness creatures which is fun!
Card recommendations:Big game hunter - probably just in the sideboardgrave scrabbler could essentially make faithless into a 3 cmc 2/2 creature that let's you draw two cards which ain't awful.dark withering - some madness removal, the only issue is that it's just realllllly bad unless you can cast it's madness cost.demigod of revenge - wouldn't be a bad finisher. very vulnerable to graveyard hate but could be worth a test over the aristocrat or in addition to.Grim Lavamancer - Probably better in the sideboard, but could definitely be fueled well with this deckThese are some utility cards to keep in mind for playtesting. I wouldn't necessarily throw any in right now but down the road they might fit into what the deck evolves into better. These are mostly based on discard which might not necessarily the direction the deck is heading.Cunning Lethemancer, necrogen mists - Poor man's Lilidelirium skeins - Could shut out opponent if behind, might be hard to cast madness off of this though but definitely not impossibleQuest for the nihil stone - probably not good enough to make the cut but if you can consistently keep opponents with dry hands might be worth an include down the road. This could actually be a potential win con if you went a more control route but it's hard to say if it could be any good or not.Rix Maadi, Dungeon Palace - maybe worth a one of? worth noting for future tests anywayrotting rats - can freely discard it and pull it back for another discard. probably better options for this type of utility though. Unearth actually has great synergy with aristocrat tooThese are all I have for right now. There's just so many directions you could take with this deck it's hard to know which one will run the smoothest.
Also ensnaring bridge could be good too! Maybe a sideboard card.
Ensnaring Bridge is probably the most intriguing suggestion you gave. The creature base is definitely proving to be the trickiest aspect to nail down right now. I've tinkered with trying full-fledged Madness, vampires and tokens, none of which are really convincing me one way or another yet. Playtesting will likely prove which set of creatures are best suited for the deck than anything else. Early on in this deck's development I did try to put together a Quest + Mutual Discard + Madness idea but abandoned it quickly after realizing it needed too many different cards to work well. As for Kolaghan's Command working as instant Madness, yeah that could work but more often than not the Madness cost of my creatures is a bit steep for that to be very realible, though I'm sure I'll occasionally get to pull it off.
You have fiery temper but not lightning bolt...
Lightning bolt doesn't do much when you discard it..
Lightning bolt does 3 damage for mana without having to wait for a discard.
Did you bother to read that this deck is about utilizing discard abilities? You can get off your high horse by the way, we obviously know what Lightning Bolt does.
I'm just trying to point out that the benefit of casting temper for madness is that it cost 1 while bolt already costs one. This was meant to be an honest suggestion.
Well, I honestly think Temper is actually pretty sweet because it plays into the discard strategy and still works as a Lightning Bolt to boot. If I have to discard a Lightning Bolt it literally does nothing for me. I almost never have to hard cast Temper unless I draw it late game which by that point I don't care if I have excess mana.
Getting rid of lingering souls would make this a red black deck, making it easier to hit your colors and making it cost considerably less to build. Also, have you considered Lightning Axe? Paired up with fiery temper it is a beast!
As of right now I'm flirting with the idea of Lingering Souls because it pairs so well with discard mechanics and provides creatures to boot but you're right, it definitely makes the deck more expensive. I'm also tinkering with keeping it Rakdos at present. Lightning Axe with Fiery Temper is pretty lethal as far as targeted kill spell pairings go, I reeeeally just wish the Axe didn't only do creature damage. However, I'll give it more consideration and probably will playtest it too. Thanks for the suggestions!
LIghtning Axe would be brutal if you could hit a player with it for sure, glad you liked my input :)
I dig the new new list! I'd like to see how it runs! I feel it needs to be tested at this stage to see how she runs
Yeah it seems like it could be a fun deck if it works properly. I added two Wild Guesses to add a little more card draw and discard fun, and I went to three Lilianas because I'm being realistic about what I'm willing to buy while not compromising the deck's efficiency. Hopefully this is the deck list that sticks!
I love graveyard shenanigans. How about some Rotting Rats? Not only does it trigger Madness for you, but also forces your opponent to discard a card, similar to Liliana of the Veil's +1 ability. And then do it again with Unearth haha! KA-POW!
I definitely gave Rotting Rats a look but I remember feeling they weren't a stronger play than any of the creatures I already have in the deck list. They'll likely stay on a short list of cards to consider should I decide to shake things up with the decklist. Thanks for the feedback!