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Call it a belated 4th of July deck. and id say its pretty explosive or will be once i figure out if and how to make it work. Emrakul as the nuke/boot in your.... "it's the american way"
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Umm ... that's a $***load of ramp. Why not ramp into Spawnshire?
And America would NEVER support the Eldrazi!
and why not? lol
spawnshire? i can use the mana ramp to get desperate ritual and through the breach for the arcane cost and then slam in emrakul if im lucky it can be done on turn 2
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actually i went over this with vaan. he's made his own amrakul deck using a very similar set up. best case scenario he can get it out Turn 2. http://www.mtgvault.com/vaan104/decks/emrakul/ ive never had the best case but i have done sample hands that it came out on T3. anything that resolves at the same time you choose what goes first.
2 mana, desperate ritual, and one pyretic ritual, then the breach goes with it for 4 mana then you put in your emrakul
Sorry, but no. I will try to be straightfoward.The Pyretic Ritual is cast. It resolves. You gain 3 mana.You cast Desperate Ritual. THEN you must pay the splice cost for Through the Breach. Desperate Ritual has not resolved yet, so you still have three mana.Basically, to cast through the breach will also cost you a desperate ritual that won't pay for itself, since it goes off after the stack resolves. It would be cheaper to hard cast through the breach.You guys are missing the point of splice ... it doesn't work to cheapen spells, but allow you multiple uses. The best option is to cast 2 Desperate Rituals, then splice twice with a third. That's 6 mana, since each casting nets you one. Then cast Through the breach with a hard cast. This would be 5 needed cards. 3 Rituals, Through the Breach, and Emkraul. I don't mean to be mean ... only point out that the combo is s little more complicated than it appears.
i think we may need another opinion lol the way i see it i tapped 2 mana giving me 3 using 2 of that gives me desperate ritual and 4 more mana which gives me the cost of the splice. taking that into through the breach and then emrak. but if your correct that means id have to wait til turn 4 to put him out.
he is saying the mana from the desperate ritual that is spliced cant pay for through the breach because they resolve at the same time
if im not mistaken your saying its still on the stack one after the other
Turn 2 or 3, having a 15 mana card out, is amazing!The Dissolve looks tricky...only because it is double blue mana. The thing is, as soon as Emra hits the table, he will be enemy number 1!! So, you need a way to protect him. Dispel might work over Dissolve (he doesn't have scry though).Spell Pierce is brutal too. Almost any card that might kill Emra is going to be covered in Spell Pierce, not all of them, but a lot of them! Negate also works.
in that case i know from talking to somoene on the mtgjudge website that if something resolves at the same time ie: obzedhat ghost council and whip of erebos you choose which is to go 1st
not much can kill emrak
wouldnt emraks protection from colored spells cover most of that?
Lots can kill him. Executioner's CapsuleDamnationApocalypseMerciless Eviction WorldfireDeathtouch creatures!!! Not fair!(It can be stolen with blue cards like Empress Galina, Cytoplast Manipulator)Royal Assassin Mangara of CorondorIntrepid HeroBrittle EffigyO-ringKarakasJourney to NowhereGeth's VerdictDiabolic VerdictCruel VerdictImperial VerdictChainer's VerdictDay of JudgementWrath of GodSpoilHumilityReaper from the AbyssReaper KingExtirpateKalitasWord QuellerI may be wrong (i suck with rules)...but, "Activated, triggered, and static abilities are not spells."And the key word here is "target." Wrath of God will kill Emra because it doesn't target Emra. Even if it has protection from white. Wrath of God will still kill it. IT makes no damn sense, but that is the rule. There are more cards that will kill him, I am sure. But I listed a lot. :)http://www.essentialmagic.com/Articles/Protection.aspLink to why Wrath of God, Damnation kill Emra.So...bottom line, he is hard to kill...but not impossible. Make it even harder to kill him, by making sure you have counterspells!Good luck!!
It doesn't matter which goes first. The desperate ritual still will generate it's mana after you need to pay the splice cost of From the breach.You pay for the spell when it goes on the stack, which is before any spells on that stack even think about resolving.On the bright side, I found a more efficient way to execute the combo!Tap 2 MountainsGain 2 manaCast Desperate Ritual or Pyretic RitualGain 3 mana (net 3)Cast Desperate Ritual or Pyretic RitualGain 3 mana (net 4)Cast Desperate Ritual or Pyretic RitualGain 3 mana (net 5)Hardcast From the Breach on emkraulThe crux of the argument: splice can't target a resolved spell.Since Emkraul is NOT being cast, the spell cheating him can be countered.
most 60 card decks wont be running that stuff and as far as the creatures go I think as soon as emrak swings annihilator 6 kicks in and unlikely to be any blockers
So .... watch out for counterflux and cyclonic rift.
Oh really? What about through the breach? It is easy to counter.
yep I know that it can be countered
And if you want your combo to work, I won't just bitch.Use Goblin Electromancer.
my comment was about all the ways Jessie listed that can kill emrak
good call on electromancer
Sorry ... the combo truly is breathtaking. Splice onto mana abilities isn't too powerful, sadly. Otherwise you could steamroll with this deck.
combo is also better in mono red deck the way I use it
Oh, and a word of caution ... Electromancer does NOT affect anything other than the casting cost of the spell. He will not work to cheapen Splice, since it is an alternate cost, and does not result in the spell being cast.
i think i got what your saying now. basically its one spell so the mana cant be spent if its not there yet. but it can still work just takes a few more turns
Yeah ... but you would never splice Through the breech, cause you can hard cast it for the same with Electromancer out. Your combo is really likely to happen on turn 3, but possible on 2.
Splicing Through the breach costs 2 cards and 5 or 6 mana when spliced ... it should be Splice 3
with electromancer itd be 5 mana but if i put both out i wouldnt complain to have to only pay 4
And that might just push this deck from awesome into brutal.
i think id like to find something better than the hatcher i like the tokens and getting more mana but 5 mana to get them slows it down for me i think
There is another red card ... wait a sec.
Got it:Rapacious One
found that one. too but its even more expensive
i threw in alloy myr for now but idk yet maybe with the eldrazi temple it will work better but i wont always get that out.
Hmm ... I'll check some more.
Pawn of UlamogNest InvaderSorry, no blue or white.
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he is trying to copy this deck and add blue and white to ithttp://www.mtgvault.com/vaan104/decks/emrakul/
no i just used it as a guide. my first intent was to do something explosive with the mortars and other stuff then i thought about emrakul and how you did your combos.
but he's saying that the combo wont work although it does
No. The combo does work.
What the hell, Seething Song is ACTUALLY BANNED in Modern? Who knew?!I was going to recommend it.
Lol...i did....its a dam nice card
maybe instead of emrakul u use worldfire
Now THAT's American! =).
lol ya I like that combo better for this deck did u look at my boros exalted angels edh? I figured u would like it and I was somewhat inspired by u to create it
Bring Arcblade along, so you KNOW you can hit first =).
banishing light or oblivion ring your own creature then play worldfire lol
thats undeniably mean lol im side boarding that option
Or Banisher Priest! Hey, she needs A use.
Sample hand 2 lands, 2 goblin electromancers, 2 breaches 1 emrack 1st draw is emrakul 2nd is emrakuls hatcher then a land aven fleetwing and then another land id have emrakul out by turn 3 or 4 and then maybe another on turn 5 or 6 not completely sure as its late and im tired lol
and u do realize u get a free turn when emrak hits the field but if u through the breach him u have to sac him at end of 1st turn
ya but i doubt someones going to be able to block him so insta kill lol
what am i thinking....there wouldnt be a next turn. the goblin and the hatcher would swing as well making for 20 damage
hatcher is a 5 drop w/o ramp it wouldn't be in
true but if i have it in cuz guaranteed i'll have at least one of the goblins in. and i have to let the mana build up since theres no ramping in that hand s it might work out
i shouldnt have closed out the sample hand cuz now i wont be able to tell for sure lol
Hmm ... Emkraul doesn't grant his extra turn ... he was not cast.However, your opponent is royally screwed. Starting at 5 health before you can do anything is bad.I want to see this fight Immolation Blitzkrieg.
so through the breach wont get u the turn? and when does annihilator kick in is it before blocking?
but before i get emrak out i should have other creatures in play so it very well could kill my opponent that turn
yes its before the combat phase so my opponent wont have any blockers
but i think id want confirmation on not getting the extra turn
Emkraul doesn't get an extra turn when Show and Tell brings him on. But annihilation is still very good ... too bad most of it will go to waste ...
*tear* this deck has more comments than my rainy days deck lol
its now been viewed....69 times...gotta love it
Over 80 times. I imagine the worst thing that could happen with Emra, is your opponent stealing it!! That would piss me off to no end!!!
Say hello to Lasav, Dimir Mastermind.Now my Emkraul has hexproof.
Was going to add rite of flame but apparently thats banned in modern lol
Lots of stuff is, that I would of never thought would be!!! Like the Seething Song i was going to suggest. Only thing I can think of is that must of been same Modern decks having too much of the same card. So they had to bring up the monotony by banning key cards, that way there would be more variety of types of decks.
That's a rather heavy-handed an non-fun approach. Just make a key counter to that deck common (when it would be rare).
Uhm, just saying, but isn't the letter that designates 'blue' in magic a U and not a B?
Shhh! That messes up his theme!
in magic sure....but not when your talking about the song from toby keith and unfortunately there arnt enough spaces to type the full words
well this ones dropping fast...i thought itd get higher than 5th lol
People are fickle.And that leaves more room for the rest of us! :) You have 2 decks in the top ten! Toby Keith would approve!
lol well i just finished another EDH deck. green and black elveshttp://www.mtgvault.com/variable/decks/gb-elves-edh/ive probably had it set up for about a week but it was close to 140 cards in it when i started on it today
BE CAREFUL.If you make another hot deck, your oldest hot deck will disappear.YOU CAN ONLY HAVE TWO HOT DECKS.
I am actually scared to make decks, right now!!Weird, huh! Because of that very reason.
i hade 3 in the hot decks yesterday lol
i think my rainy day's deck is off the hot page
Well, then it is gone now. I was informed, that you can only have 2 hot decks...and that is the reason my old hot decks keep magically disappearing. I had 4 hot decks yesterday, all on the top/first page. Two of them disappeared as soon as i posted my two new ones. It was changed like that, because back when Northy's decks were taking over Magic Vault, lol. He had all the top decks. People complained. So Magic Vault changed it.
oh well. but at least people are starting to see my decks and give advice on them. im still not getting tons of likes but it shows that i am starting to build better decks
Agreed :) Good job, sir!
And believe it or not, 7 likes is way more then most decks get!Just check out the new and unloved decks.7 is a lot.Problem is, no one wants to help other people out. I try to do my part.
if i see something thats a good idea i tend to comment on it and maybe like it if its improved
That is me..."Like it if its improved"
it could be worse people could say "you suck at life, burn all of your magic cards and never play again" lolin my case ive said that about people on cod ghosts but if you go 4 and 17 somethings wrong
Yep, it could be worse :)
That's not saying much. :)
think if i said that to vaan he'd cry? lol
That's just mean. :)
well...i am his older brother....isnt it my duty to make him miserable?
It sure is! ;P
that's probably the only thing he does well lol
not the only thing but watch it little boy i can still give you a beatdown
Throat punch!!!I use to pick on my younger brother, of 4 years, until he started to outgrow me. I knew when to quit!! lol
hes short and stocky strong cuz of the work he does being a mechanic and lifting tires all day. im tall average but ive also learned to fight. if he goes ahold of me i might be done for but i doubt it.
it would be 2 hits me hitting you and you hitting the ground lol
your missing me and then falling over hitting the ground and then me falling over laughing maybe
but we are both getting to old for that im almost 29 and if I tried wrestling id be so sore lol
id be worse off but id still win
Yep, definitely brothers! Made me laugh though, thanks! :)
what can is say....hes my b....lol
I run cross country ... I doubt I could when a fight, but I doubt I could lose. :)