Any question on bloom tender is in here: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=158901 I have to agree with you, elves do make a lot of mana, but they are vunerable, so they need to be really really fast, 1st turn llanowar and 2nd turn elvich archdruid is one of the best plays you can get, I've been playing a lot with them and 1 bolt can ruin your life, seriously. Also, if you ain't playing for modern or the recent tornaments formats I think you should switch Elvich Archdruid with priest of titania, the extra mana can ruin you, believe me... Also I know I can't aford it, but placing two Gaea's Cradlle would be advisable... and since you have a lot of mana you could run short on some more lands... switch them for sum good cards like glimpse of nature... well... glimpse only goes neetly with low mana creatures... And furthermore... I bet with so much mana you'll be topdecking very frequently, so some drawing abilitys should also be advisable, like elvish Visionary or harmonize... What i'm saying is that you packed a deck full of high cmc elves, and I think you would miss on speed with this deck... If you want, you can go check my elf decks... they have some though and experience on them but there's always room for tweeks =P like them if you please
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What was i thinking =P i could sum that by saying the we would place: 60 + 5 x 2^60 + 5 x 2^(60 + 5 x 2^60) + 5 x 2^(60 + 5 x 2^60 + 5 x 2^(60 + 5 x 2^60)) + 5 x 2^(60 + 5 x 2^60 + 5 x 2^(60 + 5 x 2^60) + 5 x 2^(60 + 5 x 2^60 + 5 x 2^(60 + 5 x 2^60))) Rites of Replication, and a total of 4 + 8 x 2^(60 + 5 x 2^60 + 5 x 2^(60 + 5 x 2^60) + 5 x 2^(60 + 5 x 2^60 + 5 x 2^(60 + 5 x 2^60)) + 5 x 2^(60 + 5 x 2^60 + 5 x 2^(60 + 5 x 2^60) + 5 x 2^(60 + 5 x 2^60 + 5 x 2^(60 + 5 x 2^60)))) Golems
Let's see how much golems can we put into play shall we? First of all let's just place sum things so we can double our doubling seasons freely 1x Mirror Gallery 1x Mycosynth Lattice 1x March of the Machines Ok, now our doubling seasons are all artifact creatures. So let's clone them! 4x Doubling season 4x Parallel Lives 4x Copy enchantment 4x Sculpting steel 4x Phyrexian Metamorph 4x Phantasmal Image 4x Splinter Twin 4x Cackling counterpart 4x Clone 4x Quicksilver Gargantuan 4x Vesuvan Shapeshifter 4x Copy Artifact 4x Evil Twin 4x Sakashima the Impostor 4x Vesuvan Doppelganger We'll end up with 60 doubling seasons, so when we want to place a token, instead we'll place 2^60 tokens. (that's 1,152,921,504,606,846,976 tokens =P) Wait, we still have Rites of Replication! Ok, let's clone our doubling Season 5 times. NO! 5 * 1,152,921,504,606,846,976 to be precise. that will end us with 5,764,607,523,034,234,880, besides the initial 60 we already had =P. And now, if we would like to play another Rites of Replication, instead we'll be placing an astounding 5 * 2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940 new tokens, that will add up with the ones we already had, 5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940 Which can't be formulated by any calculator I know... (and we only used 2 of our 4 Rite of Replication...) 3rd Rite would turn out something like this 5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) And finally the 4th would turn out to be so big I myself don't understand how the hell would I find the money to buy so many tokens xD 5 * 2 ^ (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940)) + (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940)) And at last, let's just place our 4 Precursor Golem shall we? 1st would go like 1 + 2 * (5 * 2 ^ (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940)) + (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940))) Tokens 2nd would go like 1 + 2 * (5 * 2 ^ (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940)) + (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940))) + 1 + 2 * (5 * 2 ^ (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940)) + (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940))) Tokens 3rd would go like this (all ppl gather up to see you getting your truck load of tokens) p.s. a truck wouldn't be enough xD 1 + 2 * (5 * 2 ^ (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940)) + (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940))) + 1 + 2 * (5 * 2 ^ (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940)) + (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940))) + 1 + 2 * (5 * 2 ^ (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940)) + (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940))) AND FINALLY! Our last golem would make a total of... *drumroll* 1 + 2 * (5 * 2 ^ (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940)) + (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940))) + 1 + 2 * (5 * 2 ^ (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940)) + (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940))) + 1 + 2 * (5 * 2 ^ (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940)) + (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940))) + 1 + 2 * (5 * 2 ^ (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940)) + (5 * 2 ^ (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + (5 * (2 ^ 5,764,607,523,034,234,940) + 5,764,607,523,034,234,940))) Tokens That's if my calculations are correct of course =P THANK YOU FOR THE BRAIN TEASER SavajCabbaj! I owe you one ok?
Edit: Took both words of waste and placed 2 vampiric tutors (doubling my chance of getting my fluctuator) Took 2 hauting misery since I don't need to get him so soon, and i'll eventually will mill my entire deck with the cycles. Took two disciple of malice and placed 2 street wraith since paying 2 life can help me if fluctuator isn't in play.
Oh, I just found out that Words of Waste "overrides" my drawing ability... making the combo useless... I'll consider it being on my sideboard but he can't be in main...
Sorry, I don't mean to hate on you, but nope. Grapeshot Elves is the best combow eva, P.S. Elfs FTW Playa! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=115544
If you want to see more elf Deck's just click my name below and check my other decks, thank you for your time =D
I have to back landonsworts tip, glimpse of nature, defenetly... Have you ever heard of Grapeshot Elves? Yep, just one of the greatest elf combo ever... here, take a look http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=115544
p.s. Drizzt, the trilogy of the dark elf is AWESOME =D
well i gess you should put either elvish archdruid (he's a druid =P) or priest of titania. Since they are the most overpowered mana producing elfs, or even rofellos, but he's a legend =\. But anyway, since you would use this to play with helix, i guess 2 of each should go fine... Would you mind take a look at my shot of elvish druids? thx =D 1st try: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=114767 2nd try: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=221406
Seriously? I've made the same deck just a few days ago xD The only difference is that it's combo based with small cycling 2 creatures. And it has all 5 colors, that way I could play with all 6 differenct "Cycling 2 " lands from Urza's Saga. I guess yours would beat mine, just gimme some hints pls. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=220420
Then again i was using red no only to wipe away the early opponen'ts creatures with burn, but i had a good combo with assault strobe...
Ha! i rememeber the first guy ho trashed me with this deck xD I ROFL'ed bad that day... thinking how the hell mtg made a card like protean hulk... I've been mumbling with it, and i wanted to make a deck that also had a 2nd - 3rd turn win, here's my deck, comment on it pls =P http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=220420 P.S. Are you Portugueese? (your name is Portugaru =P)
out: 2 plains in: 2 squadron hawks. you should play with 54 lands, your mana curve is a smidge off balance. and stick 2 extra hawks, nobody will mind you playing with 6 of them right?
You can also consider adding "eye of nowhere", if you manage to splice it with desperate ritual you can copy it anytimes you want with the guildmage. (i acttualy own this deck and i love seeing my opponents face when i do that... xD me: I'll return one of your lands to your hand... splice into arcane with desperate... make a copy, and there goes another land, and another, and another... xD opponent: -_-" (next turn niv-mizzet+curiosity) If you want you can check the deck i'm using here http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=238844
I love coin toss xD, better bring my wallet
How are you supposed to mill yourself?
I have to say, this is an incredible light combo! incredible! Just three little cards and you have infinite life! And just picturing a isochron sceptre with silence in it! just makes me giggle xD
Hahahahahaha... "draw sample hand" ---> Plaaaaaaaaaainnnsssss. xD
noooo, you don't get it... This is "grapeshot elves"! From Luis scott vargas... winner of magic pro tour berlin 2008 watch it here, you'll understand the deck, no need for moutains http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdnZzSiOKZM
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