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I wanted a million good targets for Skyfisher so that's why every Inspector, (also a flipped Cathar), the good doggo/sweet angel and the oddball land is in this deck.I also wanted the puny guys to be able to do something decent while waiting around for a Skyfisher so that's why the Crew 1 vehicles are in here.I needed something for the War Falcon to do while waiting for a Soldier and something to justify the high cost of the sweet angel so crewing a Freighter seemed pretty good. Sentinels are pretty much my version of flood insurance.There might be an argument for replacing O-Ring with Ephemerate but I kinda like being able to remove annoying cards like Pestilence and those vomit ensuring permanents, (I'm sure you know what I'm referring to, right?!), permanently.That's about it, beat them in the air or ship a big trampler.
SB choices are tailored towards my motley crew of Pauper players:Dust is pretty self explanatory, so is the Bearer. The reason for an extra removal spell should also be obvious, (why this one you might ask, because "some people" still play Guardian!). Holy Light against fae, Blacksmith's Skill and Strands against removal heavy decks.I used to play Suture Priest in the last spots but recently I've found that Missionary is just generally a better card in most matches.
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NOTE: Set by owner when deck was made.
People playing guardians often has a pestilence, and no bearer can help there as the damage of those is simply untargeted.The guardians are there to keep pestilence alive, so having them tapped isn't a great bother either, you just keep sweeping with pestilence because most pestilence decks also have lifegain.
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Sure, but Guardian also exists in brews and some equipment variants.Oh, and by the way, Pestilence decks has so far not really been an issue. Vehicles with 26 pilots are strangely "immune".
I've been following the decks in pauper with monarch, because I expected to see a sort of cyclical monarch event where people would try to out-monarch the others until other designs without monarch crushed them and a reversal in the number would happen for a while before monarch creep would start up again.So far I've seen decks with two monarch in the brews that have them.Do you have any ideas why there's no monarch creep ?
Boros monarch and mono black control. In my opinion monarch simply takes to long for aggressive decks to generate real value, they're better of with some simple card-draw. MBC keeps the opponent under control with a ton of removal, and when Thorn of the Black Rose it can even get more answers to problems in their hand. Boros monarch is a deck where all is about card-advantage, so Palace Sentinels fits in very well, and from what I've tested it, it's not really a fast deck. The only thing that will safe you from a Pestilence is Prismatic Strands. Pestilence is always a problem when your opponent runs some high-toughness creatures, that allow his Pestilence to survive and be re-used. Boardswipe each turn is no fun at all. And if you loose your pilots, your deck is a sitting duck. If you're interested, I can run some test against the benchmark-decks I used to test all of my own pauper decks (Boros Land Control, Dimir Defensive Mill, monoB control, monoG stompy, Orzhov lifegain/drain, Selesnya Tokens)
wickeddarkman, besides what I feel personally and I also hear from a clear majority of people I play is that people are sick of the whole damn mechanic and that it needs to be banned back to Commander, I can not answer thatThat said, my fav competitive deck is 8 ninja UR Skred with 1 monarch critter just to pseudo counter opponents random monarch dude but the ninjas usually draws way more cards then any monarch emblem in those matches. That and the obnoxious amounts of cards U and B artifact decks can draw nowadays may have left the monarch a second hand citizen?Just me speculating...
Mutton, this is not meant to be a super competitive deck, it's one of my fun brews that wins alot more then it looses. I've got other decks I'd pick if I wanted to play "serious" Pauper.However, on your Pestilence point; half the critters in this deck will pilot the 5/4 trampler, most of the dudes either fly or will pilot something that does. Usually, (in my experience), by the time a Pestilence decks is set up to stabilize their life total is so low that it's an equal liability to OP.I could obviously be wrong, but that is my experience and I've played variants of this deck for years and Pestilence is not on this decks top 5 of tough opponents.Oh, and O-ring also wrecks Pestilence.
Ops, auto correct changed your name Muktol, sorry! :)
Mutt-tol (he he hee), plays pestilence a lot, and I've been experimenting with it myself against a 2018 merfolk which is so fucking fast. I believe pestilence does have the upper hand in the matchup.I also believe that pestilence brews are totally uncreative in designs and I'm going to work on improving that aspect.Cards like shambling stalker and a number of black creatures with super toughness could really beef up the concept.There's a lot of 0/4 creatures for 1 mana, and for just a little more mana the toughness increases to sick proportions, enough that I'm planning to try out some switch power&toughness effects in the future, probably in grixis colors.
wickeddarkman, that sounds quite creative! Let me know how that works for you, please!I was so sick of my own version of a Pestilence MBC deck, (the same over and over again), that I gave it away to a buddy that loves control just to get him into Pauper! :)
There's a 1/13 zombie for 4B :)
Here's a thrown together prototypehttps://www.mtgvault.com/wickeddarkman/decks/the-end-pauper/
So I'm a fillet Nyx-Fleece Ram now...great. Muktol is a Tauren warrior! :)I have tested a vehicle deck myself two weeks ago (https://www.mtgvault.com/muktol/decks/wu-pauper-vehicles/), but the main issue was that if I wasn't able to crew my vehicles, I wasn't able to do anything. Pretty similar to an equipment deck where you removed the bearer of all those weapons. I only used 16 creature spells, and perhaps to many vehicles, so that might have been the issue there. The problem with Pestilence is that it can exactly do this: Take out all those pilots you have, it doesn't need to get rid of the strong vehicles (And hell, if MBC wishes to do so, it still has a ton of "normal" removal). I'm using Pestilence in 2 decks: MBC and dimir mill. Yes it's uncreative, unexciting, and you have to like the play-style, but if you look at how long MBC has been a strong deck, it is a deck that has to be taken into consideration in my opinion. That's why I did choose it a benchmark decks to test against. 99% of the decks I have built are kitchen-table/ fun brews. But for me it's more interesting to play a game that come out close, where each player stands a fighting chance, rather than having a deck crush another one, because it's unbalanced and has huge weak points. This is why I did choose to test all of my new pauper decks (and most of the old ones) against those benchmark decks. Not to make them more competitive, but to hone out weak points and in the end make each game more fun.
I didn't know muktol was a minotaur name :)What do you call a minotaur kid ???Answer: a minor-taur :)Balancing two decks to be equal is hard, so I don't think that I will try to balance my halfdeck
wickeddarkman: that list is something else! Don't know if I love it or hate it but I sur wanna know how it performs!
Muktol: 16 critters is not nearly enough. The vehicles are insurance against the sorcery speed removal, (and Pestilence), that runs rampant in Pauper. They also has a "hidden" psychological effect for G2 where OP boards in all their Artifact removal and I board in dudes to replace the Artifacts. It's a mind game that peeps that that don't know my SB or play style fall for a near surprising amount of time. I can not even imagine how many times my OP's hands have been full of Artifact removal when a 2 power flier kills them. ;)
Heh, the list is a prototype, I'm pretty sure I could develop it into something brutal.These days I only work with halfdecks, but that shouldn't be a barrier. I'm working a bit on pestilence in one of my other halfdecks, and the plan is to one day expand my 30 halfdecks into 60 halfdecks.When I was most competitive I researched my own results a lot, and decks that I brought to the meta for longer periods were adapted to, so at first they performed great, then they started to go downhill.At that time I started up a project with a "random" playlist where I had planned out what to take to the tournament a year ahead, with a scrambled playlist. It was a roaring success, while I adapted to the meta overall, noone could pinpoint what I brought to the tournament. I had 6 decks with very different game plans.Since halfdecks can be thrown together at random. It does the same thing. I'm prepairing to adapt against my 64 proxy testdecks from 2018, (so far it's been merfolk alone just to reach a certain level.)It's a heck of a project, but at some time I will be able to couple a pestilence deck with a power switcher deck and see some good results.The process is a bit "glacial" because it's such a huge project.
wickeddarkman: Dang, that's a project and a half! (pun intended)Good luck with that! I mainly play Modern and Legacy, (when I can find opponents), so Pauper is to me a fun "add on" format, like Pioneer, that I enjoy but don't have the time to seriously invest into.
It's my intention to invade modern with it.So you might find coverage on modern cards you never thought about, both in modern and pauper.I'm extremely ambitious and have trained two persons to professional levels, one becoming champion several times, the other got really competitive but got out of touch so I don't know anything about him anymore.
wickeddarkman: I wish you the best of luck and stay in touch. I don't often meet as dedicated people as you!
Here's the project masterpage.https://www.mtgvault.com/wickeddarkman/decks/half-deck-master-page/Don't click follow on me, you'll get totally swamped by my endless updates that happen several times daily.Take a look at the decktag: counterlingsWhich might be usefull to your ur-ninjas.
love the list! Only thing I'm not so sure of here is Era of Enlightenment? Seems weirdly clunky next to everything else. If its for the life gain and the extra body, wouldn't something like dawnbringer cleric be more direct? Seems more abuseable to me also with the sky fisher's, since it has more modes and is immediately a creature to crew with. +1 though
One synergy you might have missed because I only see 1 seijiri steppe in the list, you can actually bounce lands with the kor skyfisher...
wickeddarkman: I am aware of that. However, the effect is not particularly good at sorcery speed and the cost of a land coming into play tapped is real. The deck can afford 1 such effect main but +90% of the time the Skyfisher has a better target and the 1 tap land isn't going to cost me too much unless it's in my opening hand.
I did search for blink cards that targeted your own permanents, but theres nothing for white in that.Maybe blue has something if you ever go azorius.
Yea, gotta go U to take the shenanigans to the next level! ;)
It might not be worth the blue, the only instant that can blink a land is teferi's time twist.It a common though, so it will be easy to get. It can save and grow a creature.