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put pressure on fast. put athreos in because if i have a lot on the bored and voice dies i get the token and him right back unless my opponent pays 3 life and he won't be an active creature just an enchantment because ill never have black so he won't go online. heliod will because of the white mana base and for four mana can't go wrong all creatures having vigilance isn't bad and he can spawn tokens to. I've played a few games and when my opponent didn't see athreos coming , kind of stunned him he almost killed himself from a bored wipe. he banishing liter him on my turn i did the same to his and end turn board wipe he forgot the trigger and i won due to fleecemain loin monstrous and won in two. tell me what you guys think if he is good or not in this deck. and what i can do to make it better id really appreciate it mtg community
always have a play on every turn have some enchantment hate just put massive amounts of pressure on your opponent. try to kill by turn 5 or 6
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Interesting use of Athreos. I could see it going in 2 directions...1. Scrap Athreos, and not worry about mana fixing for one black card. Scrap Heliod as well, and add in another Ajani / Elspeth for more consistent draws OR add in something like Elvish Mystic and make the deck incredibly fast. 2. Scrap Heliod, Dictate of Heliod, and Advent. Add in another Ahtreos, and lean on some fun black cards like Gnarled Scarhide (double duty aggressive or stop an annoying blocker), or Herald of Torment to play build your own battleship. How fun would a monstrous Fleecemane Lion paired with a bestowed Herald of Torment and Godsend be? Play build your own battleship and flood the board with creatures, then threaten with Athreos if they try to clear the board or use spot removal. Go REALLY crazy and bestow Herald of Torment on Athreos with Godsend, then you only need one more devotion on an indestructible God! The possibilities are endless!
those 2 are really good but their are draw backs to them life loss and can't block with bestowed scarhide and the bestow cc is really high. u have any other suggestions.
Well taking out Heliod, Dictate, and Advent lowers your curve, adding cards like Gnarled Scarhide and Herald of Torment give you something to go over the top. Think of them as game enders... bestow Scarhide on that annoying indestructible creature your opponent controls and attack for the win, or bestow Torment onto Fleecemane and swing in the air for those last 6 life points. They're just options to consider. Trading 1 life per turn in order to deal an extra 3 damage in the air (minimum) or stopping that annoying Stormbreath Dragon (which swings for 4) can be clutch. I imagine with this deck (having Athreos as a safety valve for creatures) won't do much blocking, but rather attacking with everything as often as possible in order to keep the pressure on your opponent.Other options to consider might be Ethereal Armor and Eidolon of Countless Battles to take advantage of the creatures / enchantments / auras you have (especially Ethereal Armor). Archangel of Thune tends to win games whenever people cast it.. should work in just about any deck that has white mana.Having Athreos is great, but spending 3 mana on something that is situationally dependent on your opponent choosing a course of action isn't always worth it. Turning Athreos on with devotion and swinging adds pressure to your opponent and value to your 3 CMC.
athreos wont work with tokens tokens are destroyed when they die they don't go to your graveyard and u couldn't put a token in your hand. bow of nylea might be good tho
i know that but mainly for my non token creatures the way the deck runs it puts pressure on early and most play with board wipe esp when voice or the lion hit i figure its a better way of getting my wiped cards back to my hand or my enemy losing three life. were i live lots of blue is played. thats why i was thinking of main boarding rootborn. do you have any suggestions for me?
bow of nylea would be awesome and if u splashed in blue u could use vorel of the hullclade to duplicate your counters
Incredibly different use of Athreos, but you need to find a way to protect him, like a bounce. Obviously this is a little difficult in standard. I made a B/W Athreos deck for modern that I'd love for you to check out. Might help. http://www.mtgvault.com/dylanmcla/decks/bw-modern-safe-passage-2/
docent he bounce himself if killed by board wipe?
even tho indistructable ?
and do you think its a good use for him aswell
No he doesn't bounce from a board wipe unless it's an exile effect which Standard is full of right now.
so board wipe gets all my creatures back in hand a big elemental token and start the beating allover again?
This is actually good!.. ...just cut the Swamps c get some duals, though I'd drop Atheros, cuz it's not worth playing black just because of 1 single card... ...but if you really want to, then play that 1 copy & another in the sideboard, only cut both Mana confluence & the swamps & rather use Scry-lands(way better choise when you're playing little of a 3rd color), but run a total of 7 lands that could produce black mana!.. ...though in an aggro deck, too many Scry-lands ain't that good, so you might as well keep the Mana confluence.......I'd drop Ajani, add another land & another Elspeth...I like the sideboards, but I'd take out 1 God's Willing & add one single Revoke Existance...Good luck, mate!Watcha' think about this one? : http://www.mtgvault.com/poetmasterx/decks/celestial-insight/