Augmented Commander Rule

by surewhynot on 09 March 2018

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Deck Description

My shop, and a few shops around it, has adopted an "Augmented Commander Rule".
The purpose of the rule is to expand the available commanders for players to use, so that you might better be able to find and play with just the right commander. Below I will post the Augmented Commander Rule in its entirety for others to use in their playgroups, and maybe spread it around to others!

...~*'The Augmented Commander Rule'*~...


Any permanent or group of permanents that can, at any time, become or produce a legendary creature may be permitted as a commander. These permanents are to begin in the Command Zone in their original state. When these permanents are returned to the Command Zone for any reason, they are returned in their original state as well.

Permanent groups, such as the Kaldra Items, must all begin in their original state in the Command Zone and be returned to the Command Zone in their respective original states. These groups of permanents may be cast from the Command Zone individually, or as a whole. The mana tax for returning to the Command Zone will only apply to one of the permanents in the group, to be chosen at the start of the game.

If a permanent that produces a legendary creature (which serves as the commander) is removed from the battlefield, but the legendary creature is not, it will not be able to return to the Command Zone until the legendary creature (i.e., commander) is removed from the battlefield as well.

The permanent or group of permanents that become or produce the legendary creature (that is to be used as a commander) are used to determine said general's color identity. If the permanent or group of permanents is colorless, but becomes or produces a colored commander, the color identity of that legendary creature will determine the color identity of the deck.

Any planeswalker card may be used as a Commander. For transforming/two sided planeswalkers, both sides determine their color identity (i.e. Garruk Relentless is a Black/Green commander). When a planeswalker being used as a commander reaches zero or less loyalty, they may be returned to the Command Zone as a replacement effect the same as any regular commander. Nissa, Steward of Elements (and any future planeswalker with X in their cost) has the commander tax added independently of her X cost. For example, casting Nissa, Steward of Elements for a second time would cost 2UG(X).

The following five planeswalker cards have been determined to be too powerful and/or take away too much of the fun/casual aspect of EDH to be used as commanders, and have been banned from use.
---Liliana of the Veil
---Jace the Mindsculpter
---Tezzeret the Seeker
---Karn Liberated
---Narset Transcendant

Additionally, any of the five Nephilim may be permitted as a general, but shall be treated as though legendary (The 'Legend Rule' will destroy them).

Phage The Untouchable may be cast from the Command Zone as though from your hand (you will not lose the game for casting her).

Haakon, Stromgald Scourge may be cast from the Command Zone as though from your graveyard.

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  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Not Legal in Modern
  • Not Legal in Vintage
  • Not Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Augmented Commander Rule

I find it interesting that you don't include Teferi, Temporal Archmage in your list of banned walkers, is that because has on the card that it can already be a commander? I don't think that any of the walkers you included in your banlist are stronger or equal in strength to Teferi besides Tezzeret. Just my thoughts

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Posted 16 December 2018 at 17:02

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Part of it was that he already has the “you may play as commander”, but the other is that he costs 6 to play, so other players have time to respond to the threat he poses. He’s one of the better ones, and might eventually go on the list, but for now he’s off. When we made the ban list for ‘walkers, we reallly considered each one for a long time. We wanted to keep the list relatively small, so that’s kind of another reason.

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Posted 23 December 2018 at 02:08

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That's fair, I was thinking of his use as part of a two-piece combo with chain veil, and he starts in the command zone. I'm not really sure how competitive your playgroup is, but that's the first thing that popped into mind for me.

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Posted 28 December 2018 at 17:02

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I actually have a post like this where we talk about extra commanders. I wish this was the actual ruling! Also... no ban on OG Sorin? He can set someone to 10 life the moment you get him on the field...

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Posted 28 December 2018 at 18:16

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Yeah that's a legit concern.

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Posted 28 December 2018 at 19:44

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With Sorin we came to the conclusion that in order to do that you have to pay 6 mana AND drop him down to 1 loyalty. Yes, you pop someone down to 10, but it's at a fairly big waste of your commander. **SO FAR** this has been the case for the people who use him at our shop. The ban list was originally going to be 8 walkers, not the 5 now...and it's fairly amusing that the two first mentioned as concerns in these comments are 2 of the 3 that made the cut from 8 to 5. Guess we were on to something =P

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Posted 31 December 2018 at 04:44

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I for sure would love to see some of the stronger ult planeswalkers with green in their identity running Doubling Season, The Chain Veil and other loyalty boosters and retriggers. Would probably be mad strong.

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Posted 28 December 2018 at 19:45

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We have someone who runs a Garruk Relentless/Garruk, the Veil-Cursed dredge-style deck (color identity B/G) and it wrecks house.

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Posted 31 December 2018 at 04:48

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Golgari is my jam, and this could get silly. I like it.

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Posted 31 December 2018 at 18:14

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This is honestly a much needed update that should been somehow implemented into the actual rules. What with there being "partner" commanders now, it makes all the more sense. Another reason why I like this is it allows access to the nephilim, the OG 4 color "commanders". They're not insanely powerful to the point of being broken, and it adds spice to the games. The being able to use things that make a thing legendary is also a much needed touch. Cards like Genju of the Falls fit into this section, and I do think that it will once again open up the field for a better variety of decks. +1 from me good sir!

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Posted 28 December 2018 at 21:03

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Thank you sir! It certainly has opened up the floodgates of creativity at our shop, and some of the things you see are so unique...it really adds something else to the game as a whole. If you look at a handful of mine and my friends' EDH decks, they're run by commanders that fit into this rule. I have a few of the "Flip Commanders" and I also have a Genju of the Realm (think that's what you meant). Hell, we have someone running a Hanweir, the Writhing Township mono-red! And it's an awesome deck!

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Posted 31 December 2018 at 04:55

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A 7/4 haste on turn 3 (maybe even 2 with a turn 1 rock), is ugly. Especially since it adds two 3/2's attacking when you start swinging it, and you WILL start swinging it ASAP.

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Posted 31 December 2018 at 18:16

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Yes I did indeed mean of the realms, my mistake. And the idea of a meld card being your commander sounds amazing! This also leads me to a very fun idea for a commander using the new rule: Ormendahl, the flip side of Westvale Abbey

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Posted 03 January 2019 at 05:04

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That's kinda clever. Lots of chump blocker types and token generators into a Westvale Abbey flip could be dominant.

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Posted 03 January 2019 at 10:44

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I have a handful of decks that play Westvale Abbey and it honestly surprises me that nobody has picked up Ormendahl as a commander yet. You could make a pretty sweet token spammy, sacrifice/aristocrats style deck with that.

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Posted 06 January 2019 at 07:06

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So, Dark Depths color identity would be black I'm assuming? Sounds like a fun play group. My group included Planeswalker's about 6 months ago as well as "Un" cards within reason. Elspeth cranking out soldiers has been a fun experience and dealing with my friends Baron Von Count deck has been a hilarious mad dash to stop him. I run a five color Superfriends with Urza as commander. Just posted it the other day ironically. Glad to see you're still here Sure.

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Posted 01 January 2019 at 00:05

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Yes, Marit Lage is mono black. We have someone who runs her. And to answer below, Elbrus (Withengar) is also mono black. Kaldra is colorless. We have someone with an Elspeth soldier/anthem deck. It’s obnoxious, but not overly so. We’re starting to strongly consider banning Gideon of the Trials by the way. This guy uses him and the deck is just...really a pain in the ass to deal with. The window to defeat him is so small with that emblem and Gideon in the command zone as a three drop. Plus the guy is kind of a dick =P

Glad to see ya too dude. Happy New Year!

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Posted 01 January 2019 at 04:50

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Elbrus, the Binding Blade could be good fun.

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Posted 01 January 2019 at 00:14

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