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My take on a black devotion deck!What your looking for here are cards with as many black symbols as possible adding to your devotion and then dropping a gray merchant alot of times sealing the match, ( and phyrexian obliterator is busted ) always wanted to try my hand at this type of deck so any suggestions welcomePhyrexian arena -1Added urborg to the mana to make nykthos not as clunky *If you have Liliana of the veil by all means add her I don't and I don't plan on getting a playset anytime soon as it would cost about the same as this entire deck and then some*
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+1, tough the description(s) could be a little more detailed ;)Seal of Doom (or Sinister Concoction if you don't mind the mill and self-discard) would be an option instead of the 2 Doom Blade. Costing 1 mana more to play but may increase your devotion by an additional point. Sinister Concoction would be another option, boosting for a massive 3 devotion but using it's ability would have a hefty price. GreetingsMuktol
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I'd play dismember instead of doom blade, it's more flexible and does about the same job.+1 from me as well, quite a nice budget-ish build
Thanx! And yeah I'll prob add dismember, doom blades are just what I have on hand right now was debating putting go for the throat as well instead
1-2 griselbrand might be cool
Ehh idk he costs to much to cast while he does give a crap load of devotion tho but still think deck can do without
if u have nykthos his cost shouldn't be a problem and if you cast him you probably win. even if he gets killed right away you can still use his card draw ability before he dies
I don't think big Gris belongs here, he is much more a combo card
I like the basic idea of the deck, +1 from me.One thing to consider with Gray merchant would be Panharmonicon. Gray merchant's ability is enters the battlefield, so Panharmonicon would multiply this effect.Nice combo in the deck with Gray merchant, Kalitas and Whip of Erebos. Play Merchant to get devotion damage to opponent, sacrifice Merchant to Kalitas and pop Merchant back to battlefield with Whip. Twice the ETB effect for the same Merchant even without Panharmonicon.
Really like the panharmonicon suggestions i think it's a great option to try and cut down the price for some, as I know phyrexian obliterator is not cheap or kalitas but otherwise I like my setup could maybe tinker around with that but I'm happy with my build
I have been trying to make Panharmonicon work and it doesn't unless you build completely around it. I have a deck similar to yours and it hasn't worked for me.
Indeed you would, would need to add more creatures with ETB triggers to maximize panharmonicon so kalitas and phyrexian obliterator would prob need to go, so that's why I prob won't add panharmonicon to this deck but I still think it's a nice budget option ik these two cards are pricey
Just a suggestion I would drop Obliterator. Unless someone only has burn or fight as removal, it never even stays on the field long enough to get the devotion trigger. I have been play testing my deck for the last month or so in my local shops. The current meta has too many ways to remove it.
Maybe but I just see to much value in him not to play I mean what other 4 drops would I even consider here desecration demon?
Thats what Im trying now
+1 from me for sure, overall. A few minor suggestions if I may. (Mostly personal preferences). I think 2 more lands is going to make your draws more consistent and you really don't want to miss your first 4 land drops. I think you could safely cut 1 Phyrexian Arena and 1 copy of Thoughtsieze for this. As well I think having 3x Fatal Push and 1 Dismember main deck would be more versatile/Useful instead of your current Doom Blades and Victim of Nights. I also really like the suggestion of Panharmonicon which Esqo. Doubling your Gatekeeper and Messenger triggers not to mention the Merchant is just amazing. I understand what you're trying to do with the Whip but I think it's just a bit too slow. Having to invest 8 mana into an artifact before getting any real value is a lot for modern. Yes the Lifelink will be a factor in some match ups I think Panharmonicon will be more useful. Of course these are just my opinions and should be taken as such. Happy Casting :)
I have fatal push in the side for more aggro matchup like Naya zoo or goblins I just didn't main board it cuz idk how consistently I'd be able to get that revolt triggered but I have been debating adding go for the throat instead of doom blade I guess it really just depends on the match ups for now it does a decent enough job lol as for the land I think more testing is required I still am in the process of getting all the pieces in paper but if I find myself consistently struggling for the 4th land in my initial draws I might go up in land. But thanks appreciate the suggestion! :)
fetches to thin the deck, urborg, tomb of yawgmoth, and fatal push over doom blade
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What about abhorrent overlord, he brings 2 devotion and a flock of gross naked bird ladies.
He does work with the devotion mechanic but I would prob need to remove kalitas or obliterator for him and I just see alot more upside with the other two and kalitas can also pump out a decent amount of tokens some games but I can see him if one is trying to cut costs so good suggestions :)
I would recommend more of the best creatures in your deck: Obliterator and Garry. 3 of each seems better than 2. The line of t1 discard, t2 creature, t3 messenger, t4 Obliterator, t5 Garry is insanely good, and I would aim to pull this off as often as possible. One last suggestion: move the collectives to the SB and play 2 fatal push/dismember MB. As others have suggested, running a playset of fetches would help turn on push, and the thinning is helpful. Collective is fanstastic in certain matchups, but your deck doesn't synergize with the discard (aside from the whip, which is little too cute in the first place). You want to be as mana efficient as possible, so adding more 3 drops or more 1 drops (to double spell with a 2 drop) seems like a good place to start.
Oh, it just occurred to me, what about Liliana of the veil? You might even benefit from changing the creature package to include more zombies in order to play gravecrawler (great to discard to lilly), but that would shift the deck toward the aggressive side of things.
Dude you need to run 4 grey merchant wtf bro.
Have you thought of running 1 or 2 grave titans? With nykthos in play you can totally cast him cheap and he is an amazing late-game beater and hard to deal with. He also works super well with whip of erebos. He'll gladly come back and bring two 2/2 zombies with him. Really awesome deck though! Looks super fun. I'd find a way of running more whips. Not many people pack pre-board enchantment hate and whip gives you so much value in this kind of deck. I wouldn't run 4 but def try to run 3. You could cut phyrexian arena for it. Card advantage shouldn't be an issue with this deck. Like previous posters have mentioned, I'd try to loot ETB triggers with this deck both with panharmonicon and whip.
Phyrexian arena is there for the devotion plus the card draw and honestly obliterator, kalitas and gray merchant are enough finishers and have worked well for me, ive had games where i have enough mana to sacrifice relentless dead 2-3 times that same turn makes kalitas huge plus with relentless dead i can also bring back geralfs messenger or gary if the need arises., panharmonican seems a lil to slow plus i get no devotion from it otherwise i might have tried it