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A version of ANT for legacy without blue, that focuses on artifacts and mana produciton to hit the big storm. This is the highest % of the time I have ever seen in a deck to hit the first turn kill, including Belcher.
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what's the combo for 1st turn win?
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cast a first turn Ad Nausium that allows you to draw about half your deck, then cast all the zero cost stuff you just drew and follow it up with a Tendrils of Agony for 20 or more
you use the manna to play ad Nauseam, and use that to draw enough cards to get tendrils of darkness and play 9 spells. play the 9 spells followed by tendrils of darkness to instantly do 20 damage=) if you dont have an Ad Nauseam in you hand, use diabolic intent to get it from your deck
But how does you get so much mana?
culling the weak and dark rituals give him all the mana he needs for the deck.
I think it's Tendrils of Agony combined with all the low cost casts.
yes, thats it, but it wor't work turn one without Ad Nausium (ANT = Ad nausium Tendrils) but you probably knew that :)
Yeah haha, I'm loving the idea. Super early kills are hilarious and this one seems like it works pretty often actually.
Drawing sample hands, I manage to actually get a game winner once every 4-5 draws.
thats pretty close to what I figure it's first turn win % is... 20-25% I get alot of 2nd and 3rd turn wins out of it too when I lack that 5th mana on the first turn.
Yeah, I would say 2nd turn wins show up every 3 draws or so on average. I want this deck now haha.
If I had more Pact of negations and Diabolic intent I would put them in there, but these are the cards I own
so if someone mindbreak traps what happens? and yea it seems more common to get it, i like this idea.
oh, there are a few big weaknesses in this deck mindbreak trap, mental misstep, leyline of sanctity... and a few more, but lets pretend like it is bulletproof, I like that better.
OK, so there have been a few nice comments so far today, but I would really like criticisum and new ideas for this... my play group is pretty familiar with this deck (and often wont play me if I pull it out) so I would like a new twist on it.... ideas?
I think that if you pulled this cheese on me in a casual game I wouldn't play you again... but if I decide to make this I WILL use it in my next tourny its frakin bad-ass! put thoughtseize in your sideboard for those Force of Wills, mental misstep ect. I assume that what duress is already there for. how does this match up against the current legacy decks out there? have you played may tournys with it?
Thank you, but I don't consider this cheese, this is a carefully considered battleplan revolving around a early win. Things I consider "cheesey" in MTG is when you go to a tournament and play carbon copy decks from worlds. as for my record with this, I have only played it in two tournaments and my overall record is 13-2 I got beat by merfolk and myself (suicide)
no run cabal therapy rather than thoughtseize and dont worry about mental misstep, its banned =-)
possibly cabal ritual or dark rituals will help boost your mana and your storm count.
sorry, just noticed the dark rituals, but possibly cabal ritual.?
I tried that before I put in the culling the weak and found that I never hit threshold and that the 2 cast cost was a little painfull for the Ad Nau. draw. but I think I might try it again with culling the weak and see how it goes
ok, i see it, i noticed you dont have a sideboard though either? um and for the deck idea, again it might be a tad expensive but you ever thought about lions eye diamonds?
I copied you a bit on a deck I made this weekend, I don't have the Opals and only had 3 Ad nausium, but I put in 4 Pact of Negation and It worked very well. I think for your deck 4 Pact of Negation is a must. I love that you don't have to worry about that upkeep issue with it cause the game won't go that long if you have started your winning turn. Everyone that I played with this weekend was impressed with this deck though, and there are a couple guys that are pretty good.
Cool deck! I once made one similar, but using Pact of negation in case my opponent tries to stop the combo: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=229532
Looks nice. How about 4 Vault of Whispers to help with Mox opal.
Banned in legacy isn't it?
Its banned in Modern but is Legacy legal.
cool deck. I think its called Spanish Inquisition (SI). I would defiantly play cabal ritual, and maybe Lion's eye diamond + infernal tutor.
Why diabolic intent over demonic tutor?
In a build with Cabal Ritual I prefer Diabolic Intent over Demonic Tutor because of threshold. In this case don't make a huge diference. A set of Pact of Negation can help to get the machine running.
This is the ANT version of SI, I always thought it was neat, but it's not as fun to play as Pact SI for me. I'm interested to know how your run with this deck goes, with PSI I have about a 65% chance to go for a turn one kill, so I'm very interested in how well a build without Lion's Eye Diamond and Infernal Tutor runs.
Oh! So this is a deck. About a month ago, I saw my copy of Ad Nauseam and thought it would be fun if I put it in a deck with a ton of mana boost and a ton of 0 mana things. I put a proxy on Vault: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=242023 A week ago, I made it legacy legal: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=275975 Mine still needs work, but I'm glad it is a real archetype and I will certainly take ideas from your deck! I might also make one that uses Lion's Eye Diamond, Infernal Tutor, Threshold, Flashback, Hellbent, and/or Madness. That might get a little unfocused though... Cool. +1
Here's the new version. It uses several tutors and a lot more mana accel. Main enabling combo is either a thopter into a Diabolic Intent or an Infernal Tutor with a Lion's Eye Diamond. Sorry to seemingly be using your deck as a billboard, but I'm excited about this. Please check it out. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=279688
mox opal is legendairy, especially with lots of card draw like A-NAUS youll have issues, sell one n get a thaughtseize to replace duress, its the best protection against combo decks
4 Vault of Whispers, definitely. Awesome deck man!
Poor man's TPS Nice though. Why is there no duress? Oh nvm I see it.
ummmmm, no thoughtsieze?
Hmm, posted back in June of 2011, and he hasn't logged on since November... i think it may be a while until he notices this has sky-rocketed to the front page.
I have a turn 0 win that's been seen probably by everyone. Not sure if it's banned in Legacy or Modern or what, but... here it is either way for those who are interested. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yttRlNGkGSY
Yeah that's the old 0 turn flash deck. Most of those cards are banned in Modern and Flash is banned in Legacy because it is a ridiculously broken card.
Loved this deck, im not lucky with sample hands but when i got it I was like oh wow cool :D . My friend told me of a similar deck but red, have u ever heard of it? Please check and comment my monogreen creature deck: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=281537
you can only have mox opal on the field at any one time correct? this is just a general question
Like all of you i've tried a few draws, and gotten loads of first turn kills. What i don't understand is how this deck can work so well?.... There's just 6 possible combo cards, and in my mind the chance for getting one of theese cards in your opening hand (or first draw) should be slim. also like most combo decks: Thoughtseize and surgucal extraction or a well placed force of will (or any first turn counterspells) can render this deck dead :) Anyway! Great job! awesome deck!
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=287388 awesome deck dude. Just made my first edh deck. looking for some feedback thanks.
pints for the kilgore trout reference(assuming thats what your sn references..)buut this deck isnt very good.goldfished this guy about 10 times, and got 0 first turn wins. after t4 i would give up an try again.didnt get this deck to go off once. never once ran into an ad nauseam or diabolic intent.maybe i just have shitty luck.but a deck this inconsistent doesnt seem viable to me.and with only 3 duress and a single counterspell to protect you : /cool combo if it works though!heres a list my buddy made. its essentially an actual legacy tournament viable list, similar to what your trying to do here.http://www.mtgvault.com/old/decks/charbelcher/
Im just wondering how can you win with this deck ? enlighten me please I see many things to make a shitload of mana , but nothing to give that " 1 turn kill "
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you ritual a buncha mana. play ad nauseam - draw a shiiiiitload of cardsplay all your 0 cost spells, ramp more mana.build up at least a ten storm count into tendrils of agony
I've created a similar deck that Is mono black and gives you unlimited life, mana, and damage to your opponenthttp://www.mtgvault.com/bugboy155/decks/infinite-life-instant-death/
play pst in flames or yawgmoths will. also you only need one tendrils of agony. you run tutors and ad nauem.
Something more like this i think. 2 Island 1 Swamp 4 Misty Rainforest 4 Polluted Delta 1 Tropical Island 2 Underground Sea 1 Volcanic Island 4 Lion's Eye Diamond 4 Lotus Petal 1 Ad Nauseam 4 Brainstorm 4 Cabal Ritual 4 Dark Ritual 3 Cabal Therapy 4 Duress 4 Gitaxian Probe 4 Infernal Tutor 1 Past in Flames 4 Ponder 3 Preordain 1 Tendrils of AgonySb1 Defense Grid4 Dark Confidant2 Abrupt Decay2 Chain of Vapor1 Slaughter Pact2 Surgical Extraction1 Cabal Therapy1 Massacre1 Karakas