I was trying to build a similar deck, but I like the synergies in yours a lot more. I think mine will evolve to be close to yours, but with a few tweaks. http://www.mtgvault.com/logazor/decks/wb-weenie-nyx-standard/I'd probably run your deck, but-3 gnarled scarhide -2 orzhov charm -1 plains -1 swamp +1 Arthros +1 Cartel Aristocrat +3 gods willing +1 mutavault +1 orzhov guildgateOr something along those lines
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Well, instead of having this deck be what I currently run, I've decided to change it to what I'd like to run. Since this is what I'd ideally what to have inside a Glissa deck, there's no budget when it comes to suggestions. Do you have anything that you think I should change?
We need tribal hags in standard some time.
Oh, this is hilarious. Plus, it's a cheap deck. +1
Ahhhhhhhh :) That makes sense now. And it was fine even when not sung, I just really messed up the first time I was trying to read it and thought that funny, since I definitely never mess up when I read things aloud for the first time :-P
I meant no disrespect, and I apologize to whoever feels disrespected by what I wrote. I see you don't appreciate fragmented thought process. David Foster Wallace is an awesome writer. (What is the definition of "yaw"?). I just finished reading "The Pale King" and it was an awesome book. He hanged himself when he was in his mid 40s. My speech coach told me that I'll become the next David Foster Wallace, so he suggested David's books to me so that I'd know what he meant. I think I know what he meant by that and hope that he didn't mean that I should hang myself. Now, "attention seeker" might be a separate story ;-) +1 for helping me realize that trying to be creative after taking 2 exams has it's consequences.
What's your meter? The rhythm feels a bit off on the second and third lines. I dislike two 9s next to each other. Oh, I'll stop being muckraker ;-) I like that and may use it in the future. I'm just giving you crap for no reason :-P I prefer coffee in the evening. It helps me stay up late and study 'til 2 AM where I sleep then awake early for Jazz practice (some days). I personally think the timebug is cute; it's even tiny enough that I probably wouldn't notice it if I drank it in my tea. Did I say tea? Yes, I drink that in the evenings so I may stay up late and study, and coffee in the morning. I also quite like riftwing cloudskate and more Sandy Mages and more Krakens. I don't like coffee. It seems to have to bitter of a taste. Krakens remind me of Wrexial, who reminds me of the movie "Clash of the Titans" which reminds me of Titan's Strength, which makes me want to do a draft tonight, but I need more cash. I don't drink coffee in the morning. Timebug is a great addition to this deck. I prefer green tea to black; specifically, I prefer jasmine-green infusion or Sencha to everything. Timebug acts as a pseudo-ramp for suspend cards. You really think I'm a tea snob now. When it removes time counters, it's allowing you to cast your spells sooner, which is basically the same purpose as ramp. I don't know your problem, WhiteKnight, but coffee is delicious, just not espresso. Don't listen to me unless you have eyes. You don't need them to hear, only read. If you think my speech is weird, it's not. Even ask my speech coach. Of course I can't tell you who he is, but he looks very similar to the drummer in this music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZsqliu-JGM&index=1&list=RDSZsqliu-JGMThis artist.... I don't know what to think of it, but I'm sort of thinking that I may like it. Of course my speech coach thinks I have a weird way in presenting my ideas. It's not weird; even ask the dead David Foster Wallace. Timebug is an awesome addition to this deck and I probably wouldn't have even thought to include it. Try to stay away from coffee if you want to.
Oh no! Not the Krakens! We must evacuate this threat or else risk UPHEAVAL. Upheaval. I love that card with gargantuans and Krakens hanging onto threads, waiting for their master to pull them from the AEther.
I realized that I really needed more sac removal. At least 1 in main and 1 in side, but no one had geth's verdict or devour flesh on them day before the tournament when I realized that my single liliana was the only form of sac removal that I had. V Tron: I lost to a turn 4 urza game 1. It exiled my 3rd land, then started hitting my hand. Game 2, I destroyed urza and 2 wurmcoils, but folded to an emrakul after liliana died. V Storm: I lost 1st game, then I set out my piles of cards to side in and side out, grabbed my pile to side out, shuffled it into my deck and began game 2. V Geist 'Murica: Lost game 1 to a turn 3 geist of st. traft. Game 2 they cast another geist turn 5 followed by an ajani vengeant turn 6. This was a fun game. They started attacking with geist, got a creature, I then cast hero's downfall and sudden death (after I said to maintain priority) on turn 7. I then killed the ajani with a 4/2 crusader... I then got into a fight between a batterskull chump blocking and a massive crusader (w/ lashwrithe). Though I lost to a threads of disloyalty. V Naja Hexproof. Game 1 hurt, game 2 I crushed with my sideboard, then game 3 came close, but lost to lightning bolt (yes, the deck was naya to splash bolt). V Esper. I went 2-0 against it somehow. I don't think my opponent drew any black removal game 1, which really helped. I stuck kept a hand with 2 crusaders and an inkmoth, which really helped. Game 2 went into extra turns, but the ratchet bomb won it for me, letting me get through with a germ equipped with a runechanter's pike after I swept the soldier tokens away. I think it was very similar to this decklist, but had timely reinforcements mainboard instead of lingering souls. http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=7001&d=240253&f=MOV WB Tokens. I lost game 1. All my creatures just died and I was swarmed. Game 2 was awesome since I got a zenith. Game 3 Was just too fast with turn 2 intangible virtue, turn 3 honor the pure. I had a drown in sorrow in hand, but that didn't help. It also didn't help that my turn 3 crusader died to a dismember. V Burn. I went 2-1 after some amazing top decks game 2 and 3. Game 2 I had 2 funeral charms that I just pumped my crusader for the win, game 3 I kept a hand with a night hawk and a lashwrithe. Good thing I had him discard his removal. It was really lucky, but I pulled it off. V Soul sisters. Do you need to hear how I won?
Haha... yeah... you're totally right there. I originally wanted to go 8 Rack, but I didn't exactly have money for 4x Lilianas and 2-4x ensnaring bridge. And how, exactly, did it lose it's consistency (i.e. was there any consistency to begin with)? I only really run crusaders for the dual protection. If it didn't have infect, I'd probably still run it. And skittles is a 3 turn clock that's hard to remove. Ideally, I'd be playing scapeshift or URW control, but that'd hurt my wallet even more. Ideally, the grand prix would be limited or legacy, so I don't have to actually build an entire deck and finish it 2 days before the event and play it in my first large tournament in the format. But at least the experience was worth it. I personally don't think 8 Rack would've done much better unless I also splashed for green or white.
I agree. Especially mainboard. I just thought a white splash might just open up more possibilities post-board that could increase the win% of a pox deck fore games 2 and 3. I shall be sure to check out your deck.
Because it has flying, deathtouch, and only has 2 power, so it doesn't hurt as badly when it trades with a phyrexian obliterator (it's amazing how common the obliterator was). There were only two game where I would have preferred the 4/5, and that was against naya hexproof and storm (then again, I beat storm by just gaining too much life off of a turn 1 bonesplitter, turn 3 nighthawk for 30 grapeshots to kill me). Being able to signal pests, inkmoths, blinkmoths, and ornithopters is also very nice when you're playing a matchup where you are playing control. Though, this is only my opinion. Nighthawk dies very easily to lightningbolt and lightning helix, which makes it a little more painful against UWR. The flying did help me kill a little jace. Maybe add UWR to the decks where I wanted vatmother. And possibly a few more decks. My thoughts behind Nighthawk was that, with affinity, jund, hatebear, merfolk, rock, and rock making up 35% of the meta, I thought Nighthawk would be preferable 35% of the time and neutral (hopefully) more than 30% of the time. In my matches, it was, so it worked out better to me. Though, just barely. Anyhow, regardless of whether or not you use nighthawks versus vatmothers or some other creatures that I considered, this deck does not perform very well against a meta that has so few creature-based strategies as compared to other times when zoo dominated.
Haha, yeah... I thought I might as well increase the cost of the deck by $650 or so just so that I may splash for a single card (plus sideboard). Though, green for abrupt decay might just be superior. Sadly, abrupt decay can't deal with jace. Hmm.... now, a heavy blue splash for stifle could be interesting. It's something I haven't seen before.
Hmm. I may have said it in a confusing manner without clarifying who did what as well... I'll just assume that you understand and move on :-PMost of my suggestions I'm getting from playing against UWR control in modern, BUG in legacy, URx Delver in legacy, and UW miracles in legacy. I don't play vintage at all. But if you get all the incredibly expensive restricted cards, there's no way you can lose, right? ;-)I'm loving the stifle with split second. Just make sure you destroy your opponent's voidmage apprentice. Morph does not use the stack, and void mage apprentice's ability is a state based ability, so it can counter your trickbind. I don't know when it comes up, but I recently learned that and I thought it was cool.
They were better against affinity, rock, and birthing pod. A four drop creature costs too much and I can't afford to tap out on turn 4 and not have removal open.
I personally think your only creature should be snapcaster, then add a manland. That way you have more room for card draw and counter spells. On the topic of remand... my friend was playing Scapeshift against UWR control in the GP. He tried to cast scapeshift, the opponent cryptic commanded his scapeshift, my friend cryptic commanded the cryptic command, the opponent remanded the cryptic command, my friend remanded his scapeshift. He had mana open to re cast cryptic command and the opponent had a mana leak in hand as well as 4 mana open to recast a cryptic command if it was remanded. He won that match. Sadly, he went 5-3-1 (I believe, but it may have been 6-3 or 5-4).
Also, Ancestral Recall and Remand make awesome isochron scepter targets. I think Jace would also approve of True-Name Nemesis, if you want to increase the cost of this deck. Having snapcasters in the mainboard would also make the deck more expensive on "estimated value."
It is.... Now, if it were unrestricted in vintage....I don't want to even think of what that'd do to the meta.
Hmm. Yeah. Those are fantastic cards. Any suggestions for what I should cut? I'd think I will cut Stoic Rebuttal and Switcheroo, unless you have better suggestions. For now, I'll just cut stoic rebuttal for Back to Basics; though, in my meta, only about a third of the people who I play with would be hurt enough by Back to Basics to change the game (and the vast majority of who I play with is blue, and those who aren't are 2 color voltron or BGW combo/control). I think It'll either turn the table against me or make all the 1-2 color players try to keep me alive as they take advantage of their improved position.
Well, guys, after some testing, I settled with this sideboard.
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