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I really just wanted to build a deck with Lorescale Coatl in it. As for the Modern Tag don't take too seriously when recommending additions (I'll be removing it soon).
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Might want to try out Coiling Oracle.
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Oracle doesn't actualy draw though just puts it into your hand. Baby jace, Misty rainforest, serum vision, and cryptic command because they're some of the best cards here for better starts/control. Prob throws the budget out the window though lol
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True I haven't read the card in a while so I just assumed that it drew and not put into hand.
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ktk is priced, frf is not
No Chasm Skulker?
hmm what should I replacement? Horizon Chimera? I thought Chasm Skulker costed way more mana then that oops.
Id say drop two of the nulltreads a single chimera and a savage punch
Chasm skulker, BRAINSTORM :D maybe overbeing of myth and some "deals combat damage to player, you may draw a card"
Edric would be great. Wouldn't make you modern legal but for causal who cares.
Needs fathom mage
This is my lorescale deck. http://www.mtgvault.com/wd40/decks/an-actual-lorescale-deck/ It should give you some ideas, if you're serious about some sort of format. Granted mine isn't legal in any, but it's optimized to the point that you'd just need to make slight alterations to tweek it to make it vintage/legacy/modern legal.Otherwise, this is like, super casual. So here are some cheap on the wallet suggestions.-----I'd recommend birds of paradise first and foremost. if you don't have the money, then some sort of mana dork, so you can play a 3-drop on T2. -----I'd drop nulltread, kiora, and zegana because you're not going to be able to recover from the tempo loss of those cards. If you're really set on the nulltread interaction, replace it with roaring primadox or the strictly better rampaging wildebeests.-----I'd add merfolk looter, or some sort of constant loot, perhaps monastery siege. -----I'd switch your counters out for counters that are either a.) 100% guaranteed to work (cancel, dissolve, etc.) b.) mana leak/4x rune snag, or c.) counters that draw you cards i.e. remand, dream fracture, etc, or d.) ones that you can pay alternative costs (disrupting shoal).-----I'd also take vapor snag/unsummon/boomerang/repeal/echoing truth over force away. You're not guaranteed to get the ferocious trigger, and without it, unsummon is strictly better and boomerang hits more things, same with repeal. Vapor snag is better than unsummon. Echoing truth destroys token and counter strategies. -----Same goes for Stubborn Denial. Stubborn denial ain't no force spike. -----I'd either switch lorescale coatl for chasm skulker or find room to have both. Lorescale coatl has no protection, so when it dies, that's it. Lots of cards + turns put into nothing. Chasm skulker is a lot more forgiving. If you decide you want to make the deck more linear and revolve around chasm skulker you can include in the SB spreading seas or another way to turn your opponents lands into islands, OR play Urborg in your deck and use a color word changing spell to change skulker's ability to say swampwalk (mind bend or spectral shift).-----Because you're not allowed to play treasure cruise, ponder, preordain, brainstorm, dig through time... pretty much all the goodies, you should try to find cards that scry for you, like serum visions (that's kind of pricy), slight of hand. The early suggestion of coiling oracle is a pretty good one. Coiling oracle is an amazing card. Just because it doesn't draw the card, doesn't make it a bad choice. The tempo gain from it is pretty significant.The fathom mage suggestion is sort of in line with the fathom mage/ horizon chimera/archangel of thune infinite combo, but that's a different deck, and in my opinion, the first two are pretty horrible 4 drops. They do almost nothing on their own, and you're not playing white so thune is out. I'd rather see Coiling oracle, trygon predator, mystic snake, sagu mauler, or icefeather aven. Those are some amazing UB creatures.
Smooth there WD40-Read the first part ignored the rest of this post after looking at your troll of a deck^ -1 and I rarely do that.
Agreed. Just trolling for popularity and failing
So how is this a troll deck?
Because he built to to "try" to one up the op. Then proceeded to act like he knew what he was talking "I'm guessing because as I stated I didnt read the rest of his post" about yet looking at his deck he clearly doesn't.
He literally made his deck after he saw this one. He wanted his chance at the spotlight I'm guessing by trying to steal it from someone else. I've seen it happen many times over and it never works
He could have at least made it legal or good lol
I have seen it too. This is what I hate. You try to make a card with let us say, "Card A" and "Card B" as a combo. You make it and ask for help on here.What you get is this, "Yeah, I made a better version of that combo/deck last year...let me send you a link to see how it is suppose to be made." I don't need to know: A) You made a deck with the same comboB) You think your deck is betterWhat I need is ideas/comments/suggestions/support.
That happens a lot on vault and really it just goes to whoever is more popular or gets the deck hotlisted first. I wouldn't say he was "trolling" but I don't think you should be advertising your deck on someone else's page.
The author didn't really make any inclination as to whether this was a deck that needed to be bound by modern rules, or if it was a casual deck that he just slapped the modern tag on because it was the closest thing it resembled. Previous comments made before mine involved cards that were not modern legal, so in the event that it was the latter, the link was intended to give the author + other commentators insight into some cards that they may not have seen yet or remembered. I didn't troll. I actually own the deck, I just didn't have a reason to upload the deck list till now. For those whom have doubts:http://s1062.photobucket.com/user/noahlemke/media/imagejpg1_zps53a8b894.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0In the event, that it was the former; that the author was simply playing a casual deck bound by modern rules; I gave 8 suggestions. Every single suggestion I made i made is valid, and I didn't just say "this card is bad." I gave a reason why, proposed an alternative, or did both. My advice was given under the assumption that card changes would go through play-testing before the list would be changed, and its a pity that you can't recognize legitimate feedback.Good luck with your deck in whichever direction you so choose to take it.
No we recognize legitimate advice. The problem is you started your whole post with "here's my deck" instead of just giving advice. Advice is nice and all, but leading of with Your deck like that makes you look like a complete attention whore. I'm not hating on your advice, as it was sound. Most people offering advice only say that certain cards suck and then leave it at that, but you have reason and suggested replacements, so kudos to you for that. Just next time Stay with the advice and then add a finishing note add in the fact that you have a deck similar as an afterthought. It makes you look like less of a troll and more like you're actually offering advice
The only problem I can see is that he suggested to take out Lorescale Coatl which this deck is built around. His suggestions might result in a better deck (haven't checked) but even if - it is a different deck with a different basis. When you give advice, please stick to what the author actually wants.( I am late for the party, though, so maybe the deck description has changed meanwhile - deck authors shouldn't complain about off comments if they fail to describe what they want)Anyway, I don't see a problem with his actual suggestions. And linking his own deck is okay as long asa) he also gives solid advice, not just the linkb) the advice doesn't boil down to "replace this with that" without further explanation whyc) the changes don't warp the deck into something completely elseI myself link my own decks when I feel like the author of the current deck could get some ideas from my creation, especially when I know there is useful information in the deck description and how to play section.
i know you're not running red but Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind would make an awesome addition to this deck with all the card draw, work really well with brainstorm.
No Chasm Skulker or Psychosis Crawler?!
I can't even think about running any Blue/Green deck anymore without "Prophet of Kruphix". Most broken card i've seen in a long time. Make's a good addition to any deck of these colors ;) Plus casting those creatures as if they had flash might raise the tempo/speed of your deck. As far as card draw "Curiosity" always worked for me. I just found out that "Preordain" was banned in modern... son of a....
yup that's why serum vision is a $5 common lol
How are just now finding out that Preordain is Banned? It's been the case pretty much since the formats inception.
I remember old blue/green...with Mystic Snake and Temporal Spring. Fun stuff.
And Embrace...what was it, Yaviyama Embrace...or something like that.
You could try Rites of Flourishing.It lets you draw an additional card and play an additional land each turn for just 3 mana on the turn you play it. :)
BRAINSTORM.
Not modern legal
"I really just wanted to build a deck with Lorescale Coatl in it. As for the Modern Tag don't take too seriously when recommending additions (I'll be removing it soon)."
Ah. Missed that line I think
Just a little ya.
Still why no Brainstorm atherin112489?
i would recommend a few snake-form for control reasons
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Troll alert
I recommend Fathom Mage, and maybe Ponder? I dunno.
blue sun's zenith or splash red for niv mizzet, the firemind and invoke the firemind?
if you wanna play niv mizzet draw, so you can add curiosity for combo.
It would be an entirely different deck then.
i know and i have something like that in progress. i like simics and temur
B-R-A-I-N-S-T-O-R-M
N-O-T L-E-G-A-L I-N M-O-D-E-R-N-!I know it's not in the description but he seems to be aiming for Modern.EDIT:Actuall he constantly changes the description, so ...
Not my fault the motherfucker can't make up his mind.
Yes, but why downvoting me for that? I just noticed myself after I wrote that post and edited accordingly.
Lol dude i've downvoted people into negative rep for shits and giggles. I found a trick for it.
See normally people would flip over this, but then you stop and realize the truth. Rep means nothing.
So true. They should give people with better rep a better chance of making hot page. Or maybe people with negative rep should have all comments automatically triple-downvoted
No because that wouldn't solve anything. The inky thing two does is show how active you are on vault, to a certain extent. Beyond that it does nothing
I'm very surprised Momentous Fall hasn't been mentioned. Say you have a very large Chasm Skulker, sacrifice it into a Lorescale Coatl putting out a bunch of squids, drawing cards, gaining life and then adding +1/+1 counters to your Coatl. Plus, being very affordable price it would be a nice addition to this deck. Also almost forgot, Spreading Seas works great against non-basic lands they maybe running, adds draw effect, and slows down opponent in addition may add that second island to your mana pool if needed.
hardened scales would be helpful, because on lorescale and chasm skulker, every time you draw, you get 2 +1/+1 counters
hardened scales double the counters bioshift them away
or solidarity of heros