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Here's the Red/Blue Deck. It builds around the token creators such as Young Pyromancers and Master of Waves and some controls using burn/removal cards.
I would heavily rely on Young Pyromancer to create tokens to begin with. If the tokens are growing and growing, I would Dragonshift all of them and attack with all of them at once. May be a game finisher this way. Other way is to power up the elemental tokens by using Master of Waves. Attack with the tokens only as much as possible. This deck can also burn well by using Purphoros to deal 2 damage per elemental token entering the field from pyromancer or master of waves. It has some control cards such as Counterflux, Anger of the Gods, and Curse of the Swine to remove some powerful cards or to avoid them destroying the pyromancer/master of wavesI thought they are some nice adds. Any additional thoughts or suggestions are definitely welcome! Thanks.
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steam augery?
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that card looks a bit expensive and I would lose some good cards to cast. How was your experience with Steam Augury? Useful?
It's a mind game card. You could always play opportunity over it to draw 4 cards.
its Fact or Fiction. its awesome.
whoa, i thought it could be 2 or 3 cards but yeah, 4 or 1! I think I'll love that card. Thanks Chrono! :)
It's not as good as FoF but it's pretty good. You can trick your opponent into giving 4 cards sometimes. Could you take a look at my deck. http://www.mtgvault.com/chronoexe/decks/big-boros/
How about two talrands?
I thought of that but It will be out of the standard format. Or it is already.
rotates tomorrow
Oh okay. Nice deck btw.
Thanks Brendanh. I like it too. Looking forward to be able to play this deck.
chrono is right. my suggestion is to take out thassa and ral for steam augury. It seems like you will need to select your draws for specific answers but instead of thassa, i don't think will ever get to be a creature, i think steam augury fits better. Pumps your chimera and gets you an elemental token too, at instant speed. I don't know about ral, i feel like with the amount of burn you have you don't need him. Also i feel like you could benefit from more draw, but with the lack of instant draw in standard it would be hard to say what (besides steam augury). Maybe more bidents or something? x4 IZZET CHARMalso i suspect anger of the gods will hit you more than your opponent.really cool deck dude
Yeah, I agree with you with everything. Thanks kmk and Chrono! I added Izzet Charms and Im not sure which to eliminate to make it a 60 cards deck.
That's why you have a sideboard. The cards you want but can't fit go there.
it looks really nice now btw
What about molten birth?1. It's a sorcery2. It gives you elementals3. You can potentially cast it multiple times to trigger young pyromancer...
Updated! I didn't think of that. It's a perfect card to add. Added three to it. Do you think three copies of it would suffice adequately?
I think three should suffice... Once in a draft I drafted that card, and ended up with 12 elementals one game, because I was so lucky with the coin toss xD
haha, I hope I would be lucky with mine. Thanks for the important suggestion!
hope i'll be as lucky as you. hehe. thanks for the good suggestion!
No problem, glad i was able to help!
Sideboard Guttersnipe if you need to push through the damage... Works well for my deck...
I don't think you have the power to run master of waves in here. You don't really have a lot of high devotion cards in blue. I honestly don't know what to replace him with though. I thought maybe stormbreath dragon but he seems expensive manawise and moneywise.
It's not about the devotion it's about the +1+1 bonus to elementals.Having said that he needs to get rid of Nykthos. Not enough devotion to take advantage of it.
Woops I didn't even see that it was for all elementals. Then I take what I said back.
Yeah, I replaced Nykthos with Mutavaults. Looks better now.
Guttersnipe
That's what I said!! BROTHERSS!!!! lol
Put skullcrack on sideboard and add 2 guttersnipe.
You're not running enough blue permanents for master of waves IMOLook for token gen elsewhere, unless you feel like severely changing your deck to have blue permanentsMaybe molten birth or some goblins or something
lol master of waves is SO good here...he isnt running him to make the 1/0 tokens, hes running him to buff the elementals he aleady makes with Young P.
Mainboard skull crack seems kind of iffy. I might suggest a card like turn // burn or mizzium mortars to deal with creatures like smiter or reckoner.
Turn // Burn is definitely a good card, sideboarding it.
I strongly suggest replacing the chimera with frostburn wierd, it's still a pretty hefty hitter, plays a vital role in defending against aggro strategies and provides 2 devotion for both red and blue.also, you need a sideboard. i know, you want to sort out the mainbord first, but every good deck has 75 card and a good sideboard plan is vital, especially when running a controlish/comboish deck like this. this deck is very weak to control and tempo decks, both can be adressed in the sideboard with gainsay and aetherling against blue control and mizzium mortars against tempo (i would even consider run ning it main instead of skullcrack). turn 2 loxodon smiter is a thing and i cant see how this decks can deal with him ---> mizzium mortars!
thanks for the thoughts. I'll add mizzium mortars in and side skullcrack for a better control against those decks you mentioned. The weirds are like a double edged sword. I actually thought of Blistercoil Weird but the con of it is that its effect lasts till the end of the turn which puts myself into disappointment. xD It may be a game changer in early game though. I'll side it.
I'll research on the common cards that are put in the sideboard. I haven't gotten seriously into tournaments. Some time soon, I will! :)
yeah, i aint to deep into tournament play myself, but s think that sideboarding is part of a decks stratetgy, and is, as i have said, very vital.I hope you made use of the input, wish you luck brewing on =)if you nare interested, have a look at my newest theros brew:http://www.mtgvault.com/buddelsau/decks/rw-insane-purphoros-burn/
This is an 'out-there' suggestion, but have you considered nivmagus elemental? Not only does it have that "elemental" tribe to pair with Master of Waves, but it can get pretty large in it's own right and wreck. Plus, the Chimera just seems to be there due to synergy with spells gone away, which is good to an extent. This one allows you to get use out of countered spells :P As a bonus, it doesn't hinder Young Pyromancer's ability should you choose to exile the spell.Not to mention it is a reliable blue devotion source.
That's a thought. Though, that card may hurt my spellheart chimera if I find this creature dependable to win the matches. I'll consider and try it out when I can. Thanks! One thing that I'm not completely sure about is that will Young Pyromancer still create a token if I use Nivmagus Elemental's effect to exile an unresolved spell. If one can confirm this would be much appreciated. One thing i noticed is that Young Pyromancer has "Whenever" in its effect message which means whenever I once cast a spell, even if it is being countered, Young Pyromancer's effect trigger immediately. So, I think Nivmagus Elemental interacts well with Young Pyromancer. Still need to confirm this though.
I'm pretty sure young pyromancer will still trigger, after you cast the spell, you're exiling it from the stack, so you would get both the +1/+1 counters and the token.
yes, it will. you have to cast the spell to use Nivmagus's ability, and then exile it before it resolves. Young P triggers on the casting.
So, all in all, no hinderance to Young Pyromancer, a decent body, but a lack a synergy with Chimera. Your call.
Thanks all for the confirmation! I'll put Nivmagus into consideration! I'll play test it when I can. I'm in the progress to complete this deck. Looking forward to it!
I would:-take out the Master of the waves, since you have very little devotion to blue. You'll usually get 2-3 tokens out of it, whom will die to ANY removal in game. So you would be better off just playing more instants to trigger young pyromancer and 1 more Purphoros since those are your "win condition". -take out the counterflux for more burn-Omenspeakers are really good in sideboard against aggro desks. They hold out all 1 drops and several 2 drops and you get to scry2.-take out dragonshift for more burn to control the board.-take out the bident-run 4 Steam Augury, no mater what. You need card drawing abilities.
the master of waves isnt in this deck to make tokens. its in the deck to buff the tokens that YP makes. I dont know why thats so hard for people to see...
what about the 1UR cyclops? it cause as of right now everything u have dies to anger of the gods.
I'd side the cyclops only against anger of the god decks. the cyclops are kinda bad in most cases, because they can only attack AFTER you cast a sorcery or instant. and they don't have trample, so any 1/1 can block your 22/4 cyclops.
That is true but swan song is still a good idea I rhink
Yea, swan song is nice. I might replace them with Counterflux. I just need to see how this plays out against aggro decks. That's one of my main concerns.
or that new counter spell for U, swans song i think?
That would be good for the sideboard probably. Also can you take a look at a UW version of this deck? http://www.mtgvault.com/chronoexe/decks/master-of-waves/
Dude! This deck looks awesome! Should be hella lot of fun to play with, can't wait to see it in action!
Same with here! :D
Nivmagus Elemental, I know you shot this down earlier on account of the chimaera, but I suggest you reconsider...My arguement: He fits your tribe theme. He gives devotion to red and Blue. He eats spells in a pinch and he's a 1 drop 1/2! Any spell you cast will trigger pyromancer prior to being consumed. You don't have to eat every spell, just one's that fizzle or get countered for whatever reason. That guarantee's value. Plus since you run so many instants, a cute little combat trick by casting spells to buff him for the block may leave your opponent with their mouth hanging wide open. Your fear of spells not going to the graveyard is completely in your control.The hardest decision is what to swap him in for, that and maybe consider Ember Swallower... as a sideboard idea. /shrug
What about Mindsparker for the sideboard?Gonna have to try this deck out, looks awesome.