Waste

Thanks for dropping by Bellz76!

Your build Seems nice, didn't thought about Read The Bones to fill my own hand, I'll try that.

Question: I have seen Empty the pits in a couple of decks, haven't tried in a duel yet but ¿is really a good card? I know it has delve and everything but:

6 mana = 1 zombie
8 mana = 2 zombies
10 mana = 3 zombies
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A little expensive for my taste, even if you can exile a lot of cards from your graveyard.

You're absolutely correct- Empty the Pits is way too expensive as far as mana is concerned- it's the delve that makes it a potentially playable card. The fact that it's an instant makes it very good in the right deck. Just by itself an end of turn 6 man + 4 cards gives you 3 zombies. so is 6 mana worth three 2\2's? And that's probably only ok on turn 6- there are certainly better turn 6 plays. But what if you have 10 cards in the graveyard? 6 mana and 10 cards give you eight 2\2's ono turn 6. Much better. So the delve is really what makes it work. I was discussing this with another one of us with the idea- see Whiteys list here:

http://www.mtgvault.com/whiteysfe23/decks/we-recycle-here-waste-not/

"It's not Soulflayer, it's Empty the Pits. My build fits more of a control style so with the heavy removal and discard casting (esp Dark Deal), there should be plenty in the yard quickly and could lead to early zombie beatings. Even without Waste Not, an early Dark Deal will fuel the delve substancially. With Waste Not, it can be down right stupid. After the resolution of the first Dark Deal we'll have 6 cards in the yard- if we hit 2 lands from their discard than we can Empty the Pits for 3 on turn 3, plus any zombies from creatures they tossed as well. Just think- they discard 2 land, 2 creatures, and 1 non creature... you're swinging for 10 on turn 4. I know it's dependant on them having 2 lands to discard, but still... we go totally nuts if we hit that second Dark Deal and they discard 2 lands... yeah, I really need to get this deck built. It just feels like lots of fun."

There's a few other comments I made early on that wall you can check out, but there are still a few kinks to work out. I was also considering the Fate Unraveler (I have a whole deck built around him, Master of Feasts and Sign in Blood) but it didn't feel right in this build (not that it's wrong, of course)... again, that's why I'm still tweeking. I'm also thinking of trying a u\b build as well. Adding the Torrent Elemental to swing with a slew of Zombies seems really good too... that deck is still in formula though :-)

You had me there, the thing is Instant, with the dark deal and the Rakshasa's secret effects you can really fill the graveyard quickly, i'm thinking about letting go those nighthowlers and put a couple of Emtpy the Pits to try them out.

Thanks for the input!

Anytime! Hopefully by responding to and linking to each others boards, we can get the best build. It's possible that Empty the Pits will suck and we'll need a new win condition. Just need to colaborate and test!

I'll check it out , thanks Toweleeeie!