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This deck should get you a 4-6 turn win 9/10 games. The main thing is to get the opponent to 10 life then its a sher win with [Hidetsugu\'s Second Rite]. And it is really easy to get them to 10 life because you got burn cards that do 1, 2, and 3 damage so don\'t even bother killing their creatures. Well thats about it. Feel free to leave any questions or comments and rate my deck 1-10. Thanks -DARK^HAWK
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I like this burn deck a lot.
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yes burn is always nice and especially when all it consists of is brn. Could add 1 or 2 pyromancers swath though
The reason I don't add [Pyromancers Swath] is because my goal is to win in 4 turns and I would not have time to play it. But thanks for the suggestion anyways. -DARK^HAWK
i like this deck!
Painlands will prove this decks greatest bain! Not bad, there are a lot of vintage/legacy burn decks with a four turn clock, three if they get the draw. Pyromancer's Swath is a clitchy card and a hoot with lava darts and fiery tempers as well as a powerhouse when played before a grapeshot. Run sulfuric vortex in the sideboard to ruin life gain strategies. I run one hidetsugu's second rite in my boros deck and fetch it with sunforger for a quick win so ya it's good.
A nice accelerant might be Lightning Axe with Fiery Temper. Nice 8 damage for 2 red. Only bad thing is that with a turn one rift bolt would turn this into 11 damage dealt not 10. If paired with their use of a pain land though you'd only have to come up with 7 more damage to kill on turn three.
I just ordered all the missing cards i need to build this deck so i can have a play, looks fun, thanks! :)
The only thing I'd suggest is using Incinerate instead of Volcanic Hammer - it's just a strictly better card for the same mana cost. Otherwise, very nice deck!
In a burn deck you need to kill the player as fast as you can no the creatures they haven't done anything to you yet...
@jahsoldier: Good advice, it does indeed cost the same but you get extra coolness being able to stop regeneration too.
Yes, thank you for the advice but I am not going to change it because Incinerate cost 3 times as much and I want this to be an affordable deck even know that is a better card. -DARK^HAWK
I Like. Nothing says goodbye like endless burn. Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I give it a 8/10.
8/10? Why not a 10/10?
Lightning Axe would not work in this deck EchaniDrgn, it only targets creatures.
Thank you joande for all your suggestions i found them very helpful. ☺ -DARK^HAWK
I'm going to use this deck my self.
nice build, maybe put int Disintegrate for Blaze (prevent regeneration) and Ghostfire for Sizzle (colorless and targets creature or player) or Flames of the Blood Hand 4 damage that can't be prevented an expensive replacement could be Urza's Rage but as you said you want to keep it to be an affordable deck ^^ a possible Sideboard Card could be Guerilla Tactics against a Deck with Discard
I know this might not be the fastest but... FURNACE OF RATH!!!
Ya I don't think I would like tat in this deck but that is a really good card. Thanks though. --DARK^HAWK
Distinigrate's would seem good in this deck seeing as you can do x dmg with it just so you can get your opponent at the perfect 10 easy for hidetsugu's second rite can rip them apart :-D same applys for blaze and such where its 1 mountain and x lands for the direct dmg. Just a thought.
By the way, 8/10 check out my decks http://mtgvault.com/viewdeck.php?did=5949 http://mtgvault.com/viewdeck.php?did=5884 http://mtgvault.com/viewdeck.php?did=5896 http://mtgvault.com/viewdeck.php?did=5936
I'm sort of new to magic, so I dont know how this would work. But couldnt they just tap a land, take 1 damage of mana burn, and avoid the Hidetsugu's Second Rite damage? If not, really nice deck ^^
Mana burn is no longer valid, Magic no longer uses it. Also, mana burn happens at the end of your turn so if they play it during their turn you have no chance. I can see you're new to magic: 17 Nov 2007 by Siphen (1 posts)
@cxcharlie That comment was posted in 2007. I can see you're new to reading.
Very nice! check out my burn deck you could of added a few lighting bolts tho they help they do more damage than shock and lava dart and cost only 1 mana!
Play something like Arid Mesa to thin out your deck. With that mana curve, you only need 20 lands so take out 4.
Fetch lands don't thin the deck significantly in a mono colored deck. It would take an average of 8 (iirc) land pulls before you would see a difference.
The last time the owner of this deck logged in was 2008....
I'm... surprised at the lack of Lightning Bolt. Any reason why?
Lightning Bolt? Cards that do damage equal to number of mountains?
How did this randomly make it onto the home page? Someone got happy with the like button. This deck is simple and kinda funny, but destroyed by sac lands and Phyrexian Mana, there are easy ways to cheat yourself below 10 life before it resolves. Also, this was posted in 2007 and the creator has not signed on since 2008.....lol at the guys who commented on this suggesting Zendikar sac lands (did not exist yet) and replying to the guy about mana burn who asked that question 4 years ago. No idea how this made it up here, someone found it and linked a ton of friends I guess. Or maybe it was almost there and the people before me pushed it over. Admittedly, for a deck made four years ago, never adding Lightning Bolt is kind of a fail.
dude, you stole my deck name :P http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=131396
nice. i agree with other posters though, lightening bolts can make this easier
what about Leyline of Sanctity?
I don't think that you'll do much with grids or barbed lightnings... check out my legacy burns sb for ideas! ;) http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=186574
a burn deck with out lightning bolts?
Why would one ever play Volcanic Hammer?
Because it's 1997, and there aren't that many other burn spells available yet.
one healing salve (old reference) or any other instant lifegain and you pretty much lose. I understand your strategy to try to win quick, but I believe leyline of punishment may be a good choice to SB against anyone with life gain.... just a thought. other than that, drop the volcanic hammers for lightning bolts, one less mana, it's an instant, and it's just a better card. forked bolt gives you the option for 1 or 2 damage, which will help sculpt the opponent's life total to 10. Gut shot has no mana cost if you pay life, so that might make the cut. And last but not least earthquake to kill the weak drops early that will ping you to death if your combo doesn't drop correctly. Take a look at my decks and tell me what you think
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Please check out my deck too http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=186097 and about this brun thing ... what can you do besides healing ?? Sure you could prevent the dmg with a cleric deck or counter with an water deck ... but if got not heal no dmg prevent and no counter ... what else could you do ??
THIS DECK'S OWNER HAS NOT LOGGED IN SINCE 2008!!!
Ha ha thats really funny, I wonder how such an old deck could have just now become popular. I like the deck but it seems a little to reliant on Hidetsugu's Second Rite in my opinion. If you don't get lucky and draw it or get forced to discard it then its going to take you a long time to finish the job. Having said that this deck needs less lands, some fetchlands to thin out the deck and needs Forked Bolt and Lightning bolt.
i like the deck... but forked bolt and lightning bolt/chain lightning would do you so much better of a job than so many of these cards. but lol its an old ass deck and for all i know YOU DONT EVEN GO ON THIS WEBSITE ANYMORE! haha :)
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Super Nice Deck! 8,5/10 in Singleplayer, but just good as a supporter in Multiplayer. So 6-7/10 Multiplayer Check out my decks too!
LOL @ the fact that this User wasnt here since 2008 xD So many Cards that didnt existed then.
Where's the lightning bolt???
really great deck i wouldn't mind using it!
lightning bolt?
i like this deck alot, i think i would like at least a few creatures in though and possibly a bit of card draw because in my experience the only weakness these decks have is if you run out of cards before you win possibly, i would perhaps put in some Kiln Fiends but thats about it Overall i think its a very very good deck dude. !! I just built a deck called Enter the Dragon please check it out see what you think
My life gain deck would poop all over this, and its standard. Cool deck though.
I'd switch in some Lightning Bolts and Lava Axes But this deck is pretty old, lol
a turn 4 win with no way to prevent damage? maybe somewhat useful years ago but now a fregin starter deck would walk all over this now
LIGHTNING BOLT > SHOCK
chain reaction...would be nifty if they ramp up a bunch of dudes quickly, you can kill them all off and continue on your marry way just burning along:)
Shock can stay drop the hammer for a lightning bolt same card less mana cost....
I suppose it's good I just can't see it being very much fun. I hit you with this, I hit you with this [40 seconds later] I hit you with this and win. and what if someone has 4 lay-line of sanctuaries after the first game they would just mully till they get it it's a really sweet build don't get me wrong I just don't see it being very fun
you say dont even bother killing there creatures when most decks that are any good will win before 4-6 turns. and Lightning Bolt? its one of the best burn cards ever put it in there.
Lightning Bolt > Volcanic Hammer or Rift Bolt. Absolutely trade out either of those for Lightning Bolt...why would you pay more mana for the same thing? Other than that, you pretty much ran the gamut of burn lol
Also, Leylines of Punishment FOR SURE
Too many lands for a deck with such low mana costs.
NOOB DECK... Sizzle--- LIGHTNING BOLT... SHOCK----Burst Lightning...blaze?----Demon fire or Banefire.......Hidetsugu's Second Rite?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?¿?--- 1 fechland(9 lifes) ..... xDDDDDD .... big noob...
and Leyline of Sanctity?¿??¿? dont have creatures.. nothing
im sure by the 4th turn , if facing a blue deck, you would start getting creamed
good deck but some rite of flame would be nice
Where's lightning bolt? You cant have a burn deck without lightning bolt!
All these comments about not having creatures is funny... in a proper burn deck creatures aren't really a worry. You should be burning your opponent from the first or second turn, and I doubt putting out creatures is going to help your opponent keep pace. Agreed... no lightning bolt? Red staple..
what about rite of flames? its usefull, for this card with storm for example
You could add lightning bolt instead of rift bolt . Its the same like lava pike
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id give this deck a 10/10 rating scale, its great