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Casual straight mill deck i would actually build and play. i say actually because i don't really care for mill and burn type decks. i don't get much enjoyment out of them is all.
Hard hitting blue black mill
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Let me know what you think of it and if anything should be changed
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And yes i relize ill only be able to have one lazav out but i have four in case of legendary eldrazi.
Not too shabby and by that I mean you've made the dimir deck of my dreams this is amazing no love for mirko or nemesis of reason?
Mana costs are too high for the deck and mirko would be blocked in a heartbeat. Since if he's left too long its game. mind funeral does the same at about half the cost so id run a set of it instead. sad thing is with the decks you commented on you didn't hit my favorite one lol
Wow really which one is that?
My selesnya deck. its also the one i took the most time building lol
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Hi! I know mill isn't your favorite deck type, but its always been one of my favorite casual deck just because it wins in a different way. Mills biggest problem is that it ignores everything except the players deck. You will get ran over by most aggro before you mill or they will combo off before you finish their deck. You also have to watch out for emurkal and cards that resuffle the library. I think putting any creatures in a mill deck that need to swing to trigger is a mistake. I would cut all your creatures except for maybe fogbank. You need to put in some better defense cards. I recommend Ensnaring bridge and propaganda. Also you must run some extraction cards to add more disruption to the deck while also fighting off emurkal or possibly extracting their combo pieces. Surgical Extraction is a must add card. The great thing about it is you can hit fetch lands and non basic lands also. When you mind funeral after extracting a few land cards you will mill for even more.Leyline of the void is a great card for at least the sideboard just in case they are a graveyard based deck, you don't want to speed up your opponents deck while trying to win.If you go completely non creature Damnation is a nice card.For 1 mana hedron crab will mill more than any other card if you back it up with your own fetch lands and cards like Oboro, Palace in the Clouds.A few more 1 mana spells couldnt hurt, stuff like thoughtseize, Inquisition of Kozilek and Vision Charm.Have fun and good luck with the deck!
Thank you for checking the deck out as eell as the advice. i changed a few things to it. i hope it looks a bit better from your prospective as someone who plays mill
Also would you mind taking a look at the other mill i have built on here? its an infinite combo mill and its blue green I'm currently working on building
Maybe some counter spells?
I thought about it but really the speed of the deck anf it taking roughly 5-10cards out every turn at the minimum not including the mind funerals i don't think it needs the counter spells as much as i thought originally ill definitely add some to the sb though just to be safe
I really like the way the deck is looking. I would put 2 more Leyline of the Void in the sideboard incase you need the extra graveyard hate. Also consider 2 more propaganda and 2 less Guard Gomazoa since you are running damnation now. Another cool card to consider in the Guard Gomazoa spot is Riddlekeeper is a decent defense card that also mills.Sideboarding counterspells is a decent plan. I would run mana leak instead of negate. Also Dissolve is the better cancel now.
I think the sb is pretty good now. added a little more hate to it as well as changing the main slightly.
Deck looks really solid
Thanks again for your assistance I've never really built a good legacy build. But I'm working on gathering the cards for this. i really like it.
MURSH:I like the propaganda input. Works well with the walls.However, what about adding 4 mesmeric orb and 4 noxious revival into the deck?By selfmilling a bit the noxious revivals may dig up the necessary pieces, or may reestablish the defense after damnation has hit? You should see some of my work. I got a very reliable modern mill killing at turn 3-5 (mainly 4-5)I've scored 9,9,6,9 and 12 points with it at the last 5 tournaments I played with it (I changed deck because of a new project)(In case you don't know, 3 points equal one defeated opponent)http://www.mtgvault.com/wickeddarkman/decks/fast-reliable-modern-mill/I also copy the newest mill-decks in modern whenever someone gets top 8 with one:The one below was winning a thirdplace, played by someone named naniha...http://www.mtgvault.com/wickeddarkman/decks/nanihas-ub-modern-mill/
Hello again fellow mill lover!I didn't realize you were shooting for modern too but if you change this deck up just drop the counterspells and Riddlekeeper.Keep in mind that I have no experience with modern, just lots of legacy and casual magic and I've built a lot of mill builds in my day. I took a look at your fast modern mill. Truthfully before I looked at the deck and your discussion I was ready to dismiss Mesmeric Orb and Noxious Revival as generally bad. I can see more of what you are doing after looking at you defend Noxious Revival. I never thought of messing with a reanimator or Dread Return target buy putting it back on top of their library. Delicious. Normally, I would say that I would rather draw a card that is useful when cast on its own instead of a card that deals you damage and relies on a target in your graveyard but i can see its utility in this deck. So I say maybe you should just try it out and please let me know how well it works out for you in the long run. I am less convinced with Mesmeric Orb. I have not personally played with the card but it just seems underwhelming most of the time. It gets a little boost from Noxious Revival but still not sure about it, maybe you can report back to me on that one too.With Mesmeric Orb I feel that its just too slow for what it does and your opponent can play around it to some extent. It seems to be ran in several modern mill decks but it is almost always the 1st cut or is only ran as a 1-3 of, telling me that its not really performing all that well. I can see it being slightly better when Propaganda is out but I just don't like that it doesn't mill when cast and usually only triggers during their upkeep. I would be happier with Thought Scour for the cantrip or ensnaring bridge for protection or Visions of Beyond for fuel or even mana leak for a touch of control.I am putting a separate comment on the other modern deck and I really like it by the way.Here are 2 different legacy builds I have been playing around with.This one is kinda fun and uses Traps.http://www.mtgvault.com/mursh/decks/mill-trap/This one is they best overall legacy mill deck I have been able to put together.http://www.mtgvault.com/mursh/decks/legacy-mill/Let me know how your playtesting goes and I am always ready to discuss a new mill deck or most any legacy deck.
Heh! With mesmeric orb and riddlekeeper in play you can seriously punnish aggro, so at least mesmeric orb should go into the sideboard.
May I suggest Crypt incursion? I play it in my mill deck (http://www.mtgvault.com/hann/decks/modern-mill/) and it really upsets any aggro creature based decks.For the mesmeric orb, it does work, however I would replace it for glimpse if it wouldn't cost fortune.
If I had to chose between never playing with either glimpse or mesmeric, I would actually say goodbye to glimpse. I've used mesmeric orb in nearly all of my mill-designs and it's better than most credit it with. It takes practice to play propperly with it, but once you got it on your backbones mesmeric orb can mill so many cards. worst matchups always yield at least 6 milled cards (For example storm or reanimate in legacy) Battles where the opponent taps a medium amount of lands (uw-miracle) may range between 8-10 cards while creaturebased strategies really suffer with huge mills of 12 to 18 cards. If anyone likes phenax or birthing pod I'm builing something milly out of it: http://www.mtgvault.com/wickeddarkman/decks/phenaxpod-v1-modern/