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The best dragon general IMO, Zirilan of the Claw!! u liked this, check out my latest EDH deck, it will be the last comment on the page. thx guys!
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lot of cards do you think it makes it better
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no goofy, its an old playing style refered to now as commander. look it up. go to magicthegathering.com go to products and look for commander.
i would prob use Rorix bladewing. maybe even as the general. 21 points of damage is pretty easy
also get mana flare and braid of fire. u look at my dragon deck for ideas, it rapes. but its not an EDH deck
yah i could use bladewing but i like using zirilan to pull dragons out of the deck.
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Cards like Steel Wall, Dragon's Claws are hilarious in EDH Hivis of the Scale in Side Darksteel Myr,Brute and Sentinel, Etched Champion and Opal Mox ??? Proibited: Wall of Tanglecord, Akoum Refuge,Boros Signet ,Rakdos Signet Dragon Arch is in only because "dragon" is in the name ? You don't have any multicolor cards...Quicksilver Amulet
thx for the heads up. i was working on 2 dragon themed decks, 1 multi colored and the other was this. so some of the cards for that one made it here i guess o.O. anyways, thx for the heads up any improvements that could be made???
You have two Coalition Relics, I would put in a Sol Ring in place of the second one.
thx didnt see that one. sometimes u tend to forget what all u have added and what u havent. how does it look over all though??
I'm rather new to the concept of EDH, is it legal to use a creature like mana-charged dragon who is only printed in the Commander additional set series as part of a normal (all cards legal casual play) deck, or is it one of the oversized cards that would be illegal because you can obviously see it?
mana-charged is perfectly legal for casual style magic. and u can use pretty much any card for commander except a few that have been banned. u can go to magicthegathering.com to find more info.
Okay thank you very much for the reply to my question above ^^ i promptly added mana-charged into my casual-play dragon deck that me and a buddy play 2v2 with, works really well. I would also like to add a suggestion to your deck. Seeing as most of your dragons have 2 ways of getting out, hard- casting and your general, i think i would add in Kokusho, the Evening Star even if you can only get it out via your general. It is too powerful not to have in here... Also, because of the cards that ramp up your red mana, like seething song, i would suggest Dragonstorm, an instant win condition for this deck. And with Dragonstorm, the card Borgadan hellkite comes in very useful, being a big flying hitter that deals 5 damage however you choose when it comes into play. Have fun!
And as long as im sittin here posting on mono red decks, i would love if someone could add some comments onto my mono red goblins while they are at it; it is 90% finished, i just need to narrow it down to 60 cards instead of 70. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=360297 Thanks anybody who does, if not, heck, its a free world, i dont care that bad.
not a prob. if u need more info on legality of cards just go to magicthegathering.com and hit gather. u can type in any card and it will even tell u what play formats the card is legal to use. as much as i love that star he cant be in. he is actualy banned and being black cannot be in my deck here. i have thought about dstorm but its just a bulky card in the deck when i draw it at the wrong time. sure ill check it out. im good with gobs >:D
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i'm sure its obvious but when u use zirilan wait to fetch dragon tyrant cuz he will win u games xD Check out my deck http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=361553
oh and i put ur deck on the front page lol xD
yup hes the last one u wanna fetch if it can be helped. lol thx i didnt think it would make it. its just using my fav creatures lol. yah ill check it out no prob.
Sundial of the Infinite Keep those dragons you looked for around permanently
actualy if u check out the updated txt for him, they wont stay :(... they have changed it so say at the beginning of the next end step.. so i would need another one or voltic key to keep the sundial ready to use.
It should still work A card like Ball Lightning has the text "At the beginning of the end step, sacrifice Ball Lightning." That means at the beginning of any end step, you have to sac it. No matter who's turn or whatever. Zirilan's ability says "Exile it at the beginning of the next end step." It's a delayed triggered ability that will only go off once. The old wording was used, I imagine anyways, to take care of the dragons if you used them as blockers during someone else's turn. So if you wait for that delayed trigger to hit the stack at the end of your turn, and then end the turn with the sundial (exiling all spells and abilities on the stack), you've got yourself a shiny new dragon that will stick around. Another one that works, although slightly less beefy, is Tel-Jilad Stylus. Attack and then put the dragon back into your library for another round of tutoring.
well from what i have been reading, Zirilan's ability would just wait till the next end step when ever that would be. so if we were duelin, i use sundial to keep my pet alive, then at the end of ur turn i would still have to exile it.
I'd have to dig through the comp rules to find it, but Zirilan's works with the Sundial. Next end step only triggers once. At the beginning of the end step will trigger every single end step
plz let me know with some proof if u find it. from what i have been readin zirilan's ability would even trigger on ur end step too so thats y i dont have the dial.
The trick is letting the exile ability go on the stack, then ending the turn. That way the trigger does in fact happen, then you end the turn exiling all spells and abilities on the stack.
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=362303 this is my dragon edh deck well not quite it just has a dragon commander of niv-mizzet the namesake of the red blue color scheme Now to your deck forked bolt is not a good card for commander same for shock,burst lightning, and lightning bolt the reason for this is the board is a lot bigger and slower and the game is rarely 1 vs 1 why do you have all the non basic lands in this deck cards like scalding tarn and evolving wilds should be moved out for basic mountains Darksteel brute is an okay card but a little mana intensive for my taste as he's 3 mana to attack or block good deck though
Every fetch land gets two lands out of the deck instead of one With a 100 card deck that isn't in an insane hurry, that rocks
Lol I'm used to being pressed for every turn even in edh where you want what you can get immediate results or lose
lol well ill check it out here soon. actualy the smaller single shot spells like shock r there to help eliminate problem creatures my area has. one of which being elvish piper... extreme dislike... as Jerod pointed out, the none basic lands r better for this deck over all. the faster i have the land out of the deck so to say, then the faster i can drop the card i need to win. even though really u can just search up moltensteel and do an insane amount of damage.
No sac outlet?? it is so much better to go to the graveyard you could always reshuffle your deck to get the same dragon again. still if it's dragon themed EDH i would prefer scion of ur dragon, it can be done more graveyard stiled. Best regards
i thought about a sac outlet but couldnt decide what cards i should use and which should come out for them. i have a scion EDH deck and its difficult to run. but when it sets up right its usualy a turn 5 or 6 instant win. thx feel free to check out any of my other decks.
want sac outlets what about ashnod altar? phyrexian altar? trading post? Fiery Bombardment? Bloodshot Cyclops is the bomb... Carnage Altar or Phyrexian Vault, draw is always nice
all sounds good but idk what to drop to add a few of them into the deck... any ideas ????
you need to be running sword of feast and famine
nah the sword wouldnt be reliable in this deck.
I think a better general would be a JUND one mono EDH dont useualy get there multi color ones are more versitile besides the talrand EDH thats broken
not really thats just a matter of oppinion. to be honest i have both a jund EDH that uses tyrant of jund and i have this one as well. both work very good.
Hey Guys, im just wondering what FNM is like? Cos i've never been but always wanted to see what its like lol Here's a link to a deck with this question as my main part? if anyone could give me any info on FNM i'd be really grateful =] http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=363902
ive never been either due to work... >.>.. but its basically a tourny scene for players at a local card shop. the small one we had in my town a few yrs ago did that but it was with what ever the owner felt like holding a tourny for...
hey yall, this is the latest EDH deck i have come up with. let me know what ya think?? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=364139
may i suggest Ryusei, the falling star? it wipes away most nonfliers. Covetous Dragon is cheap at 4R, large at 6/5, and the darksteel artifacts ur running keep him around. Seething Song, and Braid of Fire are necessary for mana production for Dragons, Dragonstorm can win u games, Shivan Hellkite is a creature killer, as is Scourge of Kher Ridge, and i'd upgrade some burn spells, add in Flame Slash, Arc Lightning, Flamebreak, and Rolling Thunder, then drop Shock, Death by Dragons, Grab the Reins, and Burst Lightning
i have thought bout the falling star just watching that curve a lil. no one really likes to let Zirilan stay in play for very long. i probly should upgrade the deck list though. especialy with the new thundermaw hellkite. he could be fun in the deck. braids isnt as useful to me so thats not in. dragon storm is a great card yes, but not sure what i would take out to make room for it. but i will make a few changes to the deck.
Please check out my deck http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=349930
You could chuck in a Kaahlia of the Vast? I freakin' love that card. In fact, I made an EDH deck with her as my general. Super fun, check it out! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=328782
negative she is WRB, this is a mono red dragon deck. besides she becomes a giant target when she hits the board... <.< no one in my area lets her live long.
Seems like a pretty solid deck, i like it! I hope people can find the time to look at my first MTG deck. looking for improvements for it! Thanks for the help guys :) http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=363682
check out my awesome new edh it has so much synergy its alot of fun http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=365540
wow idk how this got back up but kool lol.