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run for your life ideal situation u get a thrumming stone out turn 3 with a dark ritual and all your rats not in your hand turn 4 game turn 5 took out a relentless and the marrows to help speed up mana by adding a set of lotus bloom, that way once turn 4 comes around i will most likely hav 3 additional mana for whenever i need it
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Thats....thats alotta rats, Thrumming Stone + Door of Destinies + Relentless rats is a very powerful and quick combo, Marrow Gnawer can sac relentless rats or even his own tokens and flood the field with more power, very cool idea. Keep up the great work
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was suprised to find many ppl who made similar decks didnt use marrow, only reason no rituals is becus id rather keep this extended instead of legacy/vintage just personal choice though if ur playing casual, was thinking of lifeline and dark ritual if i went legacy, lifeline would just make this deck to good that and maybe a demonic tutors to get marrows
dude, dont come my way with this deck. I'd have no chance of winning against it.
i havent built this deck more of a concept from seeing a few cards, if i used my legacy version instead of extended it would prob get going around turn 4 fairly fast with no real stopping
a protection deck would eat this alive. this deck has only one plan. but a freaklish good plan but still only one. thought. coat of arms.
wow only advice is the black counter and maybe a quick creature pump, beyond that looks good and fun. comment on my mistmeadow gang deck http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=16744
totally a sturdy pile of rat-deck...but yeah. It is a oneplan deck.
reason i picked door instead of coat is the fact that coat will help opponent more, the fact that i will hav more creatures out would b irrelevent if i got swept in one turn by a flying deck that built up fast, understand the protection owning this deck but i hav nevr seen someone devote a deck solely for black prot
Replace a couple diabolic tutor for a demonic tutor and a vampiric tutor. I would replace some cards with a couple aluren, 4 pack hunt, 4 rancor, and 2 skullclamp. Interesting artifact choices with the mono black list you have. It looks fun to play, but frustrating against black or blue control.
not going to add the other tutors becus me and friends mainly play legacy ruling and not splashing in green since not truly needed, in theory door is unneeded but i like it incase a few die off, skull clamp is so so and dont really need any buffing things
That's cool dude, jz suggestin' cuz aluren is hard to use and fits well here. Rancor, Pack Hunt, and Aluren are allowed under anal legacy rulings, but they're also more money ;p
dude, you cant have 20 relentless rats!!! lol the max u can have is 4
um read the text a deck may have as many relentless rats as you wish
Again Pro, noob comment, read all the cards before you leave a post!!!
dude, this deck will kill. i cant think of anything to improve it right now. even swarmyard is good to keep your marrow-gnawers alive.
My group plays Vintage, but banned this deck. It's an a**hole deck. Yeah, it can be dealt with, but it's generally not fun for anyone involved. Sure, if you're playing Pro Tour Qualifier or whatever, go for it.
this deck is evil would love to give it a go. theres just no flaws to it.
yes it does hav little flaws in it, the only thing that can really counter it is a deck that is a little quicker(friend has a deck that starts killing turn 3 with 8 damage turn 4 with 12) or mass removal on turn 4 before i can get out a lifeline turn 5
Awesome deck!! Im gonna give this deck a try. I can see why you would take at the doors but dont you think its a good fail safe just in case you wanna go the token route with marrow?
There is only one simple way to play this deck. And one is not enough in MtG ;) Anyway, that way is astonishing xD great idea! :D
Awesome rat massing but could have problems against black
This deck will run into a slight problem when Maelstrom Pulse becomes legal.
You should sideboard cranial extraction and extirpate against someone who would use them against you. It would be really funny to see it happen, but losing all your rats would be annoying after a couple games.
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I’ve been testing this deck and it runs well once you get the pieces you need. The only slow down has been mana I would suggest adding 4 Ancient Tomb and taking out 4 rats or 3 rats and a marrow.
Good lord,way to many rats,nice deck
echoing truth ftw just making fun nice work ;)
My friend got one of those deck and i destroy him with lobotomy :P Still a nice deck, really effective
Lol, good job!
1 cranial extraction and this deck would be devastated, but its still pretty awesome. Just letting you know that there are very obvious weaknesses. Heavy Burn till Cranial would suffice for countering this
wow! that is one quick and amazing combo deck
ya i know this deck has a few major weaknesses but the reason is becus they made the cards like cranial and maelstrom to make sure ppl didnt spam this in type 2 and such otherwise it would roll
Thought Hemorrhage=Game Over! And yes people do play that card because its amazing. Infact, I can't think of a sinlge card that would rape this deck more....especially on turn 4. Maelstrom Pulse is also a problem but not nearly as bad as Thought Hemorrhage.
It would be really hillarious though to see a deck loose 20 cards on turn 4. Especially because there is only 20 lands, you are likely to miss a land drop. LOL
when i first saw that 20 rat thing i was like?? but thats cool - its quite obvious though thats the kinda deck it should be played in
watch out against meddling mage! :)
I LOVE THIS DECK!!!! hey, can you make a type 2 version of this???? thanks!
Wow, so cards that will shut this deck down: Runed Halo Maelstrom Pulse Thought Hemorrhage Meddling mage Cranial Extraction Im sure theres more, but...lol
uhh... "I play meddling mage on turn 2. I choose relentless rats." game over? lol
but imagine 2 headed giants with two of these decks together... quite scary
2 words. holy shit.
CONTERBORE
Lol, this deck isnt worth the money, +$3 a rat and i ended up paying $120 on this deck. but i still enjoyed watching anothers face after losing to it.
This is by far the greatest dark deck i've seen in a long time!
This is basically the deck that was waiting to be created when Rel Rats was made. It needs some protection against the slew of cards that can destroy it (darn you meddling mage!). Most sideboards would have something that could dominate games 2 and 3 in a 3 game tourny... perhaps a couple underground sea's and sunken ruins swapped out, and a few counters in the side board in case...
Guess what?... meddling mage, call relentless rats, game over. lol
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Cool deck, looks like fun. Check out my new 360 degrees of total destruction deck. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=21350
in a deck like this do you really need that many lands? once you have thrumming stone in play you've won unless they don't do something about it. another suggestion is just how people could easily play hate cards against it try using something like a thoughseize in the deck that way you can take their "answers" before they can use them. like i said just a suggestion deck seems strong to begin with.
IMO pull the 4 Lifeline and 4 swamps since your rats will be so huge so early and you have multiple mana boosters available. Insert 4 Terror or similar creature removal for that pesky Meddling Mage and 4 Altar of Dementia. If you're going to play an a**hole deck, make it a vicious a**hole deck.
All i have against it is MAelstrom Pulse destroys it
love the deck, but has major flaw in to many cards with the same name. :(
I forget what card it is but if your opponent plays it all your Relentless Rats, POOF, they are gone. you might want to add a Door of Destinies or Coat of Arms.
Maelstrom pulse,gg
um 1 maelstrom is not gg becus of lifeline and 2 i see how little of a life ppl hav ha they can go and make multiple logins and spam 9 down thumbs in the last few hours
Not bad,i love casual deck like this,and in torney play,if u don't say anything,Its a great scare to other players,10/10
umm no i didnt steal that deck, this may be a bit of a shock to u but people can come up with the same combo just so u know, and also maybe u stole this deck every1 has a relentless rats deck and they all end up the same
WOG, Planar Cleansing, Hallowed burial, or Austere Command wrecks lifeline and your rats. Sorry. unknownhunter763 is right, I made a rats deck almost just like this one a year ago on this site and even when I did it, it was cuz I got the idea from someone else, can't tell anyone it's an original deck idea, it's common sense really. Everyone knows about it and everyone knows how to stop it, conveniently the cards to stop it already exist in most sideboards. Don't kid yourself into thinking that if you play this against people at a tourney that they wouldn't just sideboard in a card that utterly wrecks your deck.
another card that could destroy this deck= haunting echoes
no, for each other rat in play they get +1/+1 but I would trow out the 4 lifeline and trow in 4 cabal rituals
OR trow in 4 mass hysteria: for 1 Red mana, an enchantment, all creature you control have haste. you can get red mana from Lotus bloom, and add some red mana, it only needs 1
or trow in some chrome mox, you only need 1 rat in your hand. So the rest of them can be used for chrome mox. Just some idead, try some things out, choose what's the fastest
LOL@Pray4Plagues A good deck that will ACTUALLY win costs $150-250 on average The cards are expensive because they make u win, If they make u win, people can charge more for them. Thats why a Baneslayer Angel(m10) is going about $25-30 for ONE Thats not overpriced. Its just overpowered.
i think a person who goes against this deck is gonna need quite a bit of infest's
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my bro told me about relentless rats i love youtr deck dude u deserve a thumbs up
swamp yard makes it harder to defeat
Simple and powerful! Love it =,)
i have multiple cards that remove everycard throughout the deck mwith the same name ......... if that happens your screwed
coat of arms would be devastating in this deck well done, im gonna buy this deck =D
I like this deck =] its very fancy My Ensnare burn deck could take this one with ease.. And its Extended legal! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=22937
You don't need swarmyard
There are two oh-so-commonly played cards that just devour this deck and all Rat decks: Meddling Mage. Thought Hemorrhage. Game. but assuming those aren't in play for whatever reason it's a solid rat deck :) Check out my decks comment rate please!
lotus petal and cabal ritual may be better than bloom if you are playing legacy. Otherwise nice combo
this scares the hell outta me
I Extirpated this deck at a Sanctioned Legacy event, it was extremely hilarious!
pretty good but check out my rats deck i like it a lil better... but go rats