Wee Will Kiln You

by eunhathes on 03 March 2014

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Deck Description

As seen on GatheringMagic.com, a budget Modern deck devised by Mike Cannon.

Deck Tags

  • Modern
  • Budget
  • Pauper

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Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Wee Will Kiln You

Aqueous Form instead of Artful Dodge?

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Posted 13 March 2014 at 17:42

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Emphasis on Instants and Sorceries for the purpose of beefing the Fiend/Cyclops/Dragonauts. Good idea, otherwise, though. Thanks.

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Posted 13 March 2014 at 18:06

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ok, i see why you want all these pump spells and whatnot, but they help your creature get easily chumped.

Your guys will get pumped no matter what so why not use bolts and burn instead of so much pump.

I played this deck a while ago and isochron scepter is AMAZING in the deck. if your creature gets killed it can still drop a bolt on your opponent every turn.

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Posted 13 March 2014 at 21:10

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That's why he has Distortion Strike. If all he casts is Assault Strobe and Distortion Strike on his Kiln Fiend, he swings for 1 (Kiln Fiend) +1 (Distortion Strike) +3 (Kiln Fiend's ability) x2 (Assault Strobe) +[3x2] (Kiln Fiend's ability) = 16
That is 16 damage turn 3. To me, this seems like an extremely inexpensive deck that can be very, very good.

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Posted 26 March 2014 at 19:48

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I would think you'd be creature starved with so few.

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Posted 13 March 2014 at 21:26

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only 1 is needed.

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Posted 15 March 2014 at 07:12

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It seems bad to me to rely on only one creature on the field. Very easy to deal with.

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Posted 15 March 2014 at 14:24

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its called all in, he plays a creature, then if they don't remove it, he swings for 20 unblockable and wins. Literally that's how this deck rolls. Yes 1 creature can go down easy, but if they decide it's a non-threat, or that they want to play their nice thing or the most likely scenario don't have removal that is useable this early/don't have the colors for their removal, then they die. Relying on a single card isn't a weakness, there are literally dozens of combo decks that do precisely that, and usually when they do well enough the cards that are used for the combo are all banned because the combo is to powerful.

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Posted 17 March 2014 at 17:48

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Don't get me wrong, I like this deck and I like the combo.
That being said; I also run a combo deck, and the inherent weakness of any combo deck is hand or field disruption.

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Posted 17 March 2014 at 18:15

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That is a true statement, but its also irrelevant, much like dies to doomblade, that doesn't matter because you usually have a decent chance they don't have any removal in hand when they need it, and if they always have removal then chances are they don't have many threats.

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Posted 18 March 2014 at 00:26

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To deal with the Doom Blades, he should probably run Spell Pierce or Turn Aside, but that's all i can think of.

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Posted 26 March 2014 at 19:51

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Needs Psychotic Fury and Lightning Bolt.

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Posted 13 March 2014 at 21:48

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kiln fiend looks like a badass red common, elderazi rocked, wish i was around for it. magic gets its money, one way or another, that part I'm sure about.

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Posted 13 March 2014 at 23:27

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Very nice! Didn't think this was a pauper deck though till a little inspection, so you should add that in the deck tags.

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Posted 14 March 2014 at 02:17

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One of the best budget decks I've seen. 1+.

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Posted 14 March 2014 at 03:33

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I really like this build +1. Agree with Artheties and Blakroc with the need of Lightning bolt, the Isochron scepter is a briliant idea as well.

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Posted 14 March 2014 at 06:53

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General consensus is Lightning Bolt and Isochron Scepter in... but no good input on what to take out. Looking at the list, I've thought about popping Gitaxian Probes (-3) and Artful Dodge (-3) for equal amounts of each. Thoughts?

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Posted 14 March 2014 at 09:08

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I 'd suggest -1mutagenic, -1distortion, -1assault, -2 probe, +3 lightning bolt, +2 isochron scepter, but that's just my opinion :)

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Posted 14 March 2014 at 09:14

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I've tested this deck so far because I was playing one yesterday almost exactly like it and its definitely fun. I disagree with the change of Isochron Scepter, this deck is aiming to combo out by turn 3-5 and Isochron is just too slow for that purpose. I think Manamorphose is great because its another cantrip and lets you start a combo chain off nicely. Also, Lightning Bolt might help in the case of having some removal.

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Posted 14 March 2014 at 19:19

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Did some testing and I can agree with the call of Isochron. It wasn't even showing up and I was still crushing out lethal at turns 4-6.

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Posted 15 March 2014 at 19:15

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HEY! Really consider adding Psychotic Strike to the deck! Cast at the end of the stack, it can give the Wee's a RIDICULOUS boost. I know because I essentially run this deck already (give or take a few cards) and have come back in games where the life difference was obscene, I.E: Me - 4 Opponent - 58, just because of the double strike and card draw

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Posted 15 March 2014 at 19:23

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Also you need Manamorphose no argument. This is just fact

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Posted 15 March 2014 at 19:25

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no, he doesn't need it, it would be useful, but is not needed. As it stands assault strobe, unblockable spell of your choice, and 3rd spell means game, he doesn't need manamorphose anywhere near as much as he needs gitaxian probe, to check for removal.

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Posted 18 March 2014 at 20:56

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what about Spellheart Chimera? after a few turns you'll have a lot of instants and sorceries in your graveyard so i'll get pumped up fast. + it has flying and trample to deal with the chump blocking issues discussed by other people.

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Posted 16 March 2014 at 17:28

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No need for chimera. This deck is a oneshot deck. You could put it in the sideboard vs slow decks.

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Posted 17 March 2014 at 20:05

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not enough creatures plus you'd just burn out without any draw cards

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Posted 17 March 2014 at 13:25

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You need no card draw. All he does is play a land and passes the turn. Stocking up on cards. Only playing other cards when he plays a single creature or goes all in.

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Posted 17 March 2014 at 20:09

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needs skullcrack cuz you can go all in and il just fog

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Posted 17 March 2014 at 23:52

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The open-minded player in me says "good advice". But, the realist in me says that if I'm preparing for every single possibility in one game, I might as well just play answers. Only answers.

The problem with logic like "[I'll] just fog" is that it means you're playing in a perfect environment where you will have access to all the spells you'll ever want. This is Magic; there is an answer for every card. The problem is having the answer you need when you need it. My likely response to Fog would probably be Dispel.

Oh. Look. There it is. Already in the main.

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Posted 18 March 2014 at 03:12

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lol true, i forgot about dispel but theres no reason to be snide about it.

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Posted 18 March 2014 at 12:49

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Sorry about that. I'm used to dealing with forum trolls who think they'll have the exact card for the exact situation exactly when it comes up. In my playgroup, a common deck building exercise is to rattle off things that answer the cards in your build, but it's understood that having an answer is a matter of the other player's skills and random chance. I try to keep an open mind about the most common answers, but sometimes one slips through the cracks. Thank you.

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Posted 18 March 2014 at 17:24

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Mizzuim skins as a way to combat removal spells?

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Posted 18 March 2014 at 00:57

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I thought about this too but Dispel seems to hit more of the removal than usual, and also disrupts non-removal instants.

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Posted 18 March 2014 at 20:18

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maybe add Rubblebelt Maaka?

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Posted 30 March 2014 at 01:46

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Made a similar deck inspired by this one check it out.
http://www.mtgvault.com/blizard472/decks/wild-wierd-cyclops-friend/

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Posted 17 April 2014 at 08:14

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Posted 17 April 2014 at 08:14

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HI all! I also made a deck that is similar to this but I used a Delver of Secrets for a 2 turned attack. Check it out!
http://www.mtgvault.com/tiaga/decks/delver-of-pain/

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Posted 07 July 2014 at 12:28

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