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Another day bored at work... I got some inspiration for this by using the random card search function on the Gatherer and came across Fists of the Demigod and thought it was too epic to not use. So, I started throwing stuff together. Found some neat cards that would pair well with it if the circumstances worked in my favor, and then yeah, that's what I did. Probably not an overly good deck, but I'm not good enough to say for sure. I would certainly love some assistance finding any faults or issues since Im still trying to learn how to make good decks.
Requires fixing/update thing....
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I don't think you need very much help. But your mana is to low to support some of the high costCards in your deck
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Think so? Got any recommendations?
Probably adding more lands would be a great idea, I would take out the Fists of the Demigod for a 4x split between graven cairns and cascade bluffs. Probably more graven cairns. :3
Suggestions:Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis (more sacrifice along with handy exalted)Dictate of Erebos (they sacrifice every time you do)Archfiend of Depravity might also help keep their stuff under controlI hope I gave you some helpful ideas.
I had considered Dictate of Erebos. The other two are solid choices for certain situations. I put them all into my sideboard! :D
Glad I could help! :D
Used this deck in a bunch of casual games at FNM. Its pretty hardcore. Fights hard and is pretty reliable on the field. Doesn't feel like it lacks anything.
So what is your main aim with the deck, competitive or casual? And are you aiming for aggro, midrange or control?
Its my most competitive deck. Not that that says much, but in terms of my FNM buddies and stuff it holds up pretty well. I'm not entirely sure if I would call it aggro, but it can move pretty quick in the early game. Its primary function is making use of the multi-colored permanents and fists of the demigod to make dangerous creatures, particularly Grixis Grimblade who can become really dangerous on like, turn 2-3 if things go properly. Falkenkrath aristocrat is similar. The ability to sacrifice to make her invulnerable is no concern since I can sac grave crawler or bloodghast and they come right back. It gives me reliable powerhouses.
If I were you, I'd start defining it as aggro, and shifting to a far quicker deck, cards like Demigod of Revenge and other nasty red hasters, You can push it to a fast midrange deck, utilising brothers thundermaw and stormbreath, Nicol Bolas has no place here really. You need to be able to disrupt combos or go under them in modern, consider your match up against Burn, Abzan and Twin because then you can cover all your bases, in this current config, I think you'd have a rather rough time of it
I've not had a lot of problems with my creature-base, really. Most of them move rather quickly. Gravecrawler is a decent one drop that is difficult to get rid of since so many of my cards have zombie subtypes. Bloodghast is similarly persistent since its easy enough to get lands to bring it back. They both fuel Falkenkrath aristocrat which is just as dangerous as Stormbreath or Thundermaw, really, especially since it pairs well with Fists of the Demigod to give it +2/+2, wither and first strike on top of its flying. Grixis Grimblade gets +1/+1 for the multicolor permanent, as well as death touch, and then gets +2/+2 and first strike and wither from the Fists of the Demigod, neither of which are expensive since both have 2 CMC, which means that Grimblade is a like, 6/4 easily enough Nicol Bolas doesn't reeeally have a place, but I own him and wanted to stick him in somewhere, so I did. Besides, if I do put him on the field he is pretty scary. I don't know if adding things like Demigod of Revenge, Thundermaw or Stormbreath would really make the deck more dangerous or faster, for that matter, since my combos are cheaper and faster, in my opinion. O.o
You forget though, modern is all about card advantage, you're openly offering 2 for 1s with enchantments, Abzan has a field day with that, burn is just a bit too fast for you and unless you get a thoughtseize down or get 1 of 2 removal spells you have twin will kill you t4-5. It's a cut throat world in competitive modern. Blightning takes down twin nicely as well as more thoughtseize, you want more removal to take down burn's little buddies and inquisition of kozilek maybe. Against Abzan, the dragons dodge lingering souls tokens, and lingering souls is the best card against you, you also need to be able to go toe to toe with their big hitters and trade removal while keeping 241s as low as possible
I suppose the two-for-ones makes sense. It may make a difference if I play in different Meta, too. I did add the Clout of the Dominus to my sideboard which, though it is an enchantment and requires extra cards to be played, can give my big creatures like Grixis Grimblade or Flakenrath Aristocrat some shroud defense. I see what you mean, though. I will see about acquiring some blightning for sure, maybe some inquisitions, too. I've never had trouble with big hitters. If I have fists on either Flakenrath or Grimblade, basically anything powerful is going to lose. First-strike and deathtouch on Grixis, and Indestructable and Wither on Aristocrat means that basically whatever they fight won't come out without being basically useless afterwards (or dead). I could see adding some sort of token removal, though. Hmm... perhaps something like Drown In Sorrow to get rid of them? It's a pretty handy card and I could acquire one easy enough. I don't know how much a threat burn is to my creatures. I'd be most worried about exiles or destroy target creature cards. Damage-based burns, not so much. Even the destroy creatures are only... minor problems. Most of my creatures come back from death, or have a way to stop themselves from being destroyed.
Fists opens up a creature to be removed with your protection on the stack though, leaving you with less resources, burn isn't aimed at your creatures, it is aiming at you! You don't need sweepers you need more targeted removal, possibly a 1 of Damnation. Plus Aristocrat will not dodge the best removal in modern: Path to Exile. Stormbreath slips through Path and gets passed lingering souls
Hmm... True, true. I suppose I could scrounge up a stormbreath or two and keep them around. Falkenrath is probably superior against a non-white deck or deck not containing exiles due to its indestructibility. But, that's just me. You get a +1 for that one.Any recommendations on targeted removal? I have terminates for creatures, lightning bolts (might throw in some blightnings instead or swap as necessary?), which are usually decent, but I could use something different. I don't reeeally have to worry about creatures too much, so maybe something to get rid of artifacts/enchantments/etc?
Your only worry is creatures and combo, and unless its storm, its a creature combo, so you just need more targeted removal, more terminates and maybe a 1 of slaughter pact, Falkenrath requires other resources though and you may not have them which makes stormbreath better. Manaforge CInder is just a bit of a waste of space because it doesn't net you extra mana so that is an easy cut along with exhava because you have better cards available than her. Artefact and enchantment removal remains in the side, shatterstorm would come in vs affinity, but that is really the only deck to use artefacts in modern now that Pod is banned. Just make sure that every card is efficient on its own, because you aren't comboing here so you need everything to be able to win you the game, draw you a win con, or stop them from winning. It is a big shame dig through time is banned, but Tasigur is not, and he would make your deck 1 million times better... I'm a big fan of him xD
Well, I have four terminates. I put 2 in main and 2 in sideboard for the deck preview on here. manaforge Cinder was initially there because I wanted to keep my mana versatile, but you're right, its very unnecessary now, and exhava could be replaced. Perhaps I'll replace them with stormbreaths!Artifact removal for me is rather useful, at least in my Meta. One of the most dangerous decks I play against is a really insane artifact deck. Alright, so. If I get rid of manaforge and Exhava, that leaves me with four open spaces in my deck. I'll probably sneak Thrax and Sedris out of my sideboard and put in some stormbreaths. I could get some removal. What do you recommend for removal? Anything in particular?
Ah, forgot to mention. I do have another creature removal option. It's a liiiittle situational, but if I have a multicolor permanent down, as well as Grimblade, I can Arcane Teachings him and he can just pluck away at the enemies with deathtouch. ^.^
The combo is cute, but it stays strictly cute!!! If robots is a big thing near you, take a more midrange approach and toss in a couple of pyroclasm and a 1 of Damnation, because that nets the little robots but can also blow out Abzan or elves. 4 terminate mainboard and a slaughter pact, you might want serum visions in here just to smooth out your draw?
No one is cuter than me. Cute is my thing!Serum visions sounds good. I'll main board the terminates. A damnation if I can get my hands on one. They tend to be spendy if I recall correctly.Idk for sure what robots refers to. At least not entirely certain...
Lots of updates made. Take a peek!Gonna see if I can get my hands on a damnation. All the boys at FNM usually give me a good deal.
Robots is small fast artifacts, and I'd have the dragon main board just as an additional threat
It was easier to add them there on my phone. T.TAlso, blightning? Should I consider it? It might be a better investment than lighning bolts?
Lightning bolts are cheaper to cast and instant, but... Blightning has discard two, even if its sorcery speed.
Have both, cut the worst performing cards
Well, here's how I see it...Like you've stated, my deck uses combos, so its easier to burn down 2+ cards that I use to make each other stronger. With lightning bolt, I can cast it cheap and whenever, but it also only targets creatures (or the player), which makes it handy in a deck where removing a pesky creature is useful. I have plenty of ways to obliterate creatures. Blightning is slower, more expensive, but comes with the two force discards. If, for example, I play it, I have the potential of removing one creature from the field as well as two cards from their hand, which very well might be removal cards they would use against my sensitive creatures. Blightning may be more valuable for me. Especially since I have plenty of terminate to take the place of quick removal. Thoughts?
I don't think lightning targets creatures, so keep bolt and cut ral zarek and the artifact
Agggh! You're right! I managed to sneak it into my sideboard. >.>;;
Also! You've been a super huge help! I appreciate it a lot.You should peek at http://www.mtgvault.com/fairemont/decks/edhshadowborn-apostle/Its my first attempt at an EDH deck. I based in on someone else's, but I fixed it up a little bit. I imagine there are things that could be done to make it a little better, but to me it doesn't seem to have many gaps where it can be improved (but I don't know a lot of cards yet). So, a little help there will be big!Our EDH pool isn't super competitive, not like Modern or Standard, and tends to be played in teams and groups, obviously, but mostly teams. So, I think that deck is pretty solid for also not costing a massive amount! :D
I'm not actually I huge fan of EDH to be honest :/
Me either but... If I get to play more MTG then i will do it! >:(
+1Maybe Dreadbore in the Sideboard, in place of Terminate, if you come across a deck with a lot of Planeswalkers?
You know, I don't see a lot of Planeswalkers where I live. But, it seems that Dreadbore might just be superior to Terminate anyway. Do you think so?
Dreadbore is sorcery speed and allows regeneration, so no, Terminate is better
Oh, I didn't even look at that. Hah. Good catch.
Personally I love slaughter pact because if some cute combo I've totally missed happens I can still hopefully stop it, even with no mana!
Interesting choice. I could certainly find some uses for that. However, I excited that I am getting a little bit of help with this deck. Its been a really big project for me and I'm excited to use it! :D
Sorcery speed lessens value of Dreadbore. Since your Meta rarely play them...it means I gave bad advice.
You couldn't have known!
All 5,408 comments can't have been bad advise, I know for a fact some of it has been excellent
He's given me a lot of good advice in the past! :)Maybe I'll get him to take a peek at my EDH deck. :D
I'm not big on EDH, I tried to keep it as my casual so that I could have a bit of fun, but it was so cut throat :/
Everyone where I play likes to play EDH, so I had to build a deck to participate. Besides, its fun sometimes, at least if you have a deck that functions. XD
My deck functions, and in the right group, its so much fun, but some people take it too seriously where I am!
Yeah. I've noticed that people can take it reaaally seriously. The people I play with like it for its multiplayer practicality. You could still take a look at mine and see if you like it or have suggestions! :D
Also, how does Gothy feel about this deck now? :)
He wants more threats mainboard!!!
Are those threats present in the sideboard? O.o
there needs to be a few more there and in the main board, otherwise Abzan will out man and gun you
Recommendations?
ral and the artifact out for 2 Stormbreath and 2 thundermaw hellkite
B-But... T.TI like my Ral...And the scythe is really nice...You make me sad!
need to, improve it
Okay, so, I looked around... How about any of these:Olivia Voldaren. Seems like a solid choice. Not too spendy, takes creatures away from the enemy.Rakdos, Lord of Riots. A little trickier to cast, but looks pretty tough.Kulrath Knight. I have ways to add counters, and counters can be common in other decks. It basically pacifies any enemy creatures with counters on them. Might be okay?Lightning Reaver. Lightning Reaver seems like one of the better choices, along with Olivia Voldaren. Hits the ground with Fear and Haste, 3/3 damage, and gets progressively more dangerous as it survives?All of them can also make use of my Fists of the Demigod to make them even stronger, which is nice! :D
i have Reasons to say this, but I'm exhausted today, hence no article, but all 4 aren't modern playable, put the dragons in, they work the best, personally I wouldn't mind a bonfire of the damned too because I remember playing with that card and its just unfair
Hm... Stormbreath dragon is definitely solid, but I don't reaaaally see a huge advantage of Thundermaw over something like Lightning Reaver. But that's just me! D:
Thunder.aw killsall their mini fliers, is always unblockable and is a huge beat stick that even getting in one hit is well worth it. Reaver also has 3 toughness, lightning bolt
Hmmm... True... But how is Thundermaw always unblockable? Just seems like he'd be unblockable as per a normal flier?
He taps all opposing fliers and deals them a damage whenever he attacks, basically only creatures with reach can block and there aren't any of them in modern
That's only when he enters the battlefield, though. I don't have any way to repeatedly cycle him in and out to make it useful again.
I'd have the full 4 lightning boit, its amazing!!!
Lightning bolt is nice, yeah. :P
It is really beginning to shape up, Lilianna of the Veil for Ral Zarek though, acts as a quicker removal spell (that messes bogles) and the discard helps you a bit!
She's expensive, though. =/I can try to get her in the future. I have the Ral Zarek's, so that saves me some cash. xD
Ye she's just a little improvement
Though, I don't know how happy I'd be with forcing myself to discard cards. >.>
Gravecrawler and bloodghast mate
I thought of that just after a I posted it. :PI had a blonde moment.
Fair enough
Going to have to figure out how to get my hands on some dragons, too.
that's not too hard tbh
They are kind of spendy... like, 18-20$.
Really? Not too bad here!
Its given a ~12$ low price and a 16$ midprice. :(The people here are sticklers for even trades. Its weird and rather infuriating.
if they need a cardthey can be ripped off ;)
They are like 'I have these thousand cards I'm looking to trade because I have so many and never plan to use them' 'can I get that one?' 'Sure, let me look up the price!' >.> 'It's 20 dollars, so I need 20 dollars or equivalent cards that I need.' Apply feminine skills '15$ will be fine...'BUT STILL T.T
Damn it boobs get everything in a nerd dominated community!!! XD I'm sure if you have something they are looking for, you can knock them down, supply and demand and all that!
Unfortunately, I buy most of my cards so I don't have a lot that I don't need/want for a deck or two. Most cards I have for trade are ones I get from draft games or FNM rewards. xDI might waggle my fancy foil Ugin around in their faces and see if they'll trade me.
Would you mind snap chatting me rather than this for now, so much easier to talk! My user is yupthisme and ye I know how silly that sounds
I don't actually use snapchat. :(Or many other chatthings... that I can think of.
Shame, I brew most of the time with my friend on there xD
Brew? >.>I'm not sure what that means! XD
Brew= make decks
Figured.Have you seen my Shadowborn EDH deck? Its getting to the point where it is actually frightening. Id be curious to see if you could make any recommendations for optimizing my cards. ^.^
I had a look, and I don't know the card pool enough tbh XD
Hah. It's basically everything. >.>Except like, Grislebrand.
I play a Wrexial of the Risen Deep EDH deck, because casting storm herd for free is fun
I like mine because its like 'I'll just sacrifice this here Shadowborn apostle and his seven brothers'All enemies take lots of damage, I gain lots of life, they sacrifice their creatures, zombies and rats spawn all over, demons come flowing out of no where, shit hits the fan, and then they all come back the next turn because FU~
Do you even counterspell ;) My EDH is called the Fun Police... for a reason ;)
They can counterspell all they want, because I just revive everything. Over... and over... and over... and over! :D
Rest In Peace would be an unpleasant one for both of us!!! Actually counterspell wise, you might want 2 or more Remand in here
No kidding!I don't know about Remand. Maybe. I've got some overloads, so I can basically counter like.. an entire turn worth of spells. XD
Remand does the same thing and draws u a card, and its 2 mana so gets you ahead!
Remand blocks one spell. Conflux can block everything. EVERYTHIIIIING! The difference between target spell and each spell. >.>
The difference between its likely they will cast one spell a turn xD
Well.. perhaps. In my meta is seems to be a lot of multi-spell turns.
If it is aggro-centric remand isn't as good, against control it can be a blow out
Hmmm... I'll have to test them and such.
I played with this deck last night against various other decks. It wrecks pretty hard.Was 7-0 for the night.
7-0 for any night rocks!!!
Not that my opponents were very good, but still. XD
7-0, you cheeky cheeky mage you!kudos!!!
It's turning into a really impressive deck. I put down my Grixis Grimblade with Fists on it and some guy was like "meh", then he read it and just gave me the most suspicious look ever.
I'd be like, sure... Ugin -3 ;) I'm a Tron player
He has four defense! :D
Ye but everything is wiped, or Oblivion stone, or maybe even the gorgeous Karn
Everything is? I may not be too familiar with Ugin. :(
Everything under 6 converted mana cost can cease to exist if I so choose, although I prefer to Oblivion Stone before Ugin so I only need to tick up once and then ultimate and in tron, that is basically win
Hehe. Yeah. Though, I do have those spells to blow up planeswalkers. :P
Then say hello to my infinite damage combo of mikeus and triskelion muhahhahaha
Pffft. I'd know how to stop it! :D
How then? ;)
Just have to counter the creatures necessaryOr spells necessary.
You run 0 counters and its usually just tooth and nail then I instantly win
I have counterflux~
Gothy...I just made the most evil of evil decks. Its EDH, but I could probably make a non-EDH variation. Go look at my [EDH] Marchesa Multi-Infinites deck. http://www.mtgvault.com/fairemont/decks/edh-marchesa-multiinfinites/Its not complete, yet, but.. the fun part is it references you and your Mike on a Trike thing. :PIt has like, multiple infinite combos in it. So evil.