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Deck Challenge: Maximum potential swing by turn 6

Ok, so we all know that the perfect draw hardly ever occurs, but if it DID, build a deck to see for how many points you can swing for by turn six.

No infinite loops allowed. Use any color or combination of colors. Use creatures or other spells to achieve this goal.

One more thing, The challenge is to see how much damage you can inflict ON turn six, not BY turn six, meaning, any damage potentially dealt on turns one-five dont count.

Have fun guys!
Posted 28 May 2010 at 14:32

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http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=63963

There is no way this would work out, but you said perfect draw so here it is.
Turn six swing for a total of 82 damage.
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Posted 28 May 2010 at 17:35

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ON turn 6 i can deal either 20 flying damage, 141 (+ 240 from coat of arms, total of 381) damage with annihilator 39, or Infinite wolf attack...... My favortie number to stop the wolves is 3 trillion, so that would be 6 trillion damage from the wloves + 3 trillion from turntimber ranger (oh, crap...... add in the coat of arms :confused::confused::confused: can't think!!!!).

BTW this is only calculating the damage from whats in my hand, as if i didn't draw at all......... think of the possibilities!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Think i have 3 winning combos for complete victory!

here is the deck that does all three!
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=62914

:manab::manag:


Perfect hands: (2) Vampire Hexmage, Dark Depths, Rupture Spire, Shimmering Grotto, Golgari Signet............ hand 2: Urza's Power Plant, Urza's Mine, Urza's Tower, Turntimber Ranger, Conspiracy, Coat of Arms Mycosynth Lattice.......... hand 3: (4) Cloudpost, Spawnsire of Ulamog, Golgari Signet, Coat of Arms
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Posted 28 May 2010 at 17:44

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Here is this. I have no idea how much it hits for. I know it isn't infinite, but it's probably greater than the upper thousands. You'll see.

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=63986
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Posted 28 May 2010 at 18:44

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Perfect Hand:
1. Preeminent Captain X3
2. Captain of the Watch X3
3. Coat of arms X1

Turn one, draw plains

Turn two, draw plains

Turn three, draw plains, play preeminent captain

Turn four, draw plains play preeminent captain Attack and bring in capt. of W.

Turn five, draw plains Play preeminent captain Attack bring in Capt. of W. 2&3

Turn six, draw plains, play coat of arms, Attack with three preeminent captains along with three captain of the watches, and their nine goons (all of which are now pumped to 4/4 and 5/5). A total of 15 power is added to each through coat of arms. Total: 191 damage.

With a deck loaded with similar pumping cards, it doesnt require too much luck to pull off 50+ damage by the sixth turn.
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Posted 28 May 2010 at 22:09

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hahaha by turn six, you could have like 3 BFM's out lol thats...
297!!! without the consume sirits doing direct damage hehehe... ALOT :)
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Posted 28 May 2010 at 22:16

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[QUOTE=Smc1215]Here is this. I have no idea how much it hits for. I know it isn't infinite, but it's probably greater than the upper thousands. You'll see.

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=63986[/QUOTE]

Rather than banefire, it might be nice to throw in a snake basket (another artifact) and an thorn thrash elder and a mage slayer (another artifact), devour all the snakes, equip with mage slayer and ultimately multiply the insane amount of mana by six. Someone has to calculate this out.
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Posted 29 May 2010 at 12:17

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Its a little silly
And I think i have the math right.
Turn 6 main phase is where the math gets really big numbers

Turn 1
Main Phase:
Tropical Island
Fastbond
Tropical Island
Concordant Crossroads
Tropical Island
Birds of Paradise

Turn 2:
Serra's Sanctum
Tap Sanctum and Tropical islandx2
Opal Essence

Turn 3:
Gaea's Cradle - Tap for 4. tab BoP for 1
Doubling Season Season

Turn 4:
Followed Foot Steps on Doubling Season

Turn 5
Upkeep: 3 Doubling Seasons

Main Phase:
Parallel Evolution for 16 Doubling Seasons tokens for a total of 19 Doubling Seasons.

Turn 6
Upkeep: 524,288 more Doubling Seasons come into play = the 19 already in play = 524307 Total

Main Phase:
Parallel Evolution for a grand total of:
7.137 094 097 631 710 768 937 468 178 142 745 213 710 005 446 512 495 012 565 194 474 307 163 953 931 088 530 618 791 659 713 826 410 955 497 489 370 855 767 805 373 776 204 727 257 720 539 814 213 872 632 412 350 618 895 033 732 701 350 459 702 472 079 076 404 414 920 413 809 486 654 487 135 364 835 773 814 346 829 203 096 535 339 262 806 327 678 854 242 305 228 529 755 942 725 287 225 777 326 745 895 619 327 054 988 245 436 615 072 660 675 807 142 316 195 354 645 739 830 229 609 130 403 463 319 963 570 586 473 636 118 829 652 795 891 410 740 649 448 531 579 976 035 635 546 287 571 452 425 037 745 181 357 472 361 810 157 988 247 964 332 899 493 978 024 388 4e+157837

Doubling Season 5/5 Creatures with Haste(a silly big number)

attacking for a total of: 7.137 094 097 631 710 768 937 468 178 142 745 213 710 005 446 512 495 012 565 194 474 307 163 953 931 088 530 618 791 659 713 826 410 955 497 489 370 855 767 805 373 776 204 727 257 720 539 814 213 872 632 412 350 618 895 033 732 701 350 459 702 472 079 076 404 414 920 413 809 486 654 487 135 364 835 773 814 346 829 203 096 535 339 262 806 327 678 854 242 305 228 529 755 942 725 287 225 777 326 745 895 619 327 054 988 245 436 615 072 660 675 807 142 316 195 354 645 739 830 229 609 130 403 463 319 963 570 586 473 636 118 829 652 795 891 410 740 649 448 531 579 976 035 635 546 287 571 452 425 037 745 181 357 472 361 810 157 988 247 964 332 899 493 978 024 388 4e+157837 Damage


I'll post the deck list when I get home.
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Posted 30 May 2010 at 23:43

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Standard combo deck, infinate damage turn 6, enjoy!
Pretend the sideboard is in mainboard.

http://mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=66177

Perfect hand:Island, Island, Mountain, Reality spasm, Echo Mage, Fireball, Mind Spring.

Turn 1:Island
Turn 2:Island
Turn 3:Mountain, Echo Mage
Turn 4:Island, lvl mage up to 2
Turn 5:Island, lvl mage up to 4
Turn 6: play reality spasm for 2,
copy twice with echo mage,
untap 3 land and echo mage,
copy reality spasm twice again,
repeat until your opponent understands you have infinate mana,
play mindspring to draw as many cards as you want till you get your fireball or archive trap or anything really,
make infinate copies of whatever you want,
play fireball for infinity,
play mindspring on your opponent for 1000 and they lose instantly.

But since this is about damage, fireball for idk agoogleplex or some crap like that.

:D:);):):D

keep in mind, this deck is completely standard, you could play it at fnm like me, haha
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Posted 07 June 2010 at 15:43

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[QUOTE=Copyright]Its a little silly
And I think i have the math right.
Turn 6 main phase is where the math gets really big numbers

Turn 1
Main Phase:
Tropical Island
Fastbond
Tropical Island
Concordant Crossroads
Tropical Island
Birds of Paradise

Turn 2:
Serra's Sanctum
Tap Sanctum and Tropical islandx2
Opal Essence

Turn 3:
Gaea's Cradle - Tap for 4. tab BoP for 1
Doubling Season Season

Turn 4:
Followed Foot Steps on Doubling Season

Turn 5
Upkeep: 3 Doubling Seasons

Main Phase:
Parallel Evolution for 16 Doubling Seasons tokens for a total of 19 Doubling Seasons.

Turn 6
Upkeep: 524,288 more Doubling Seasons come into play = the 19 already in play = 524307 Total

Main Phase:
Parallel Evolution for a grand total of:
7.137 094 097 631 710 768 937 468 178 142 745 213 710 005 446 512 495 012 565 194 474 307 163 953 931 088 530 618 791 659 713 826 410 955 497 489 370 855 767 805 373 776 204 727 257 720 539 814 213 872 632 412 350 618 895 033 732 701 350 459 702 472 079 076 404 414 920 413 809 486 654 487 135 364 835 773 814 346 829 203 096 535 339 262 806 327 678 854 242 305 228 529 755 942 725 287 225 777 326 745 895 619 327 054 988 245 436 615 072 660 675 807 142 316 195 354 645 739 830 229 609 130 403 463 319 963 570 586 473 636 118 829 652 795 891 410 740 649 448 531 579 976 035 635 546 287 571 452 425 037 745 181 357 472 361 810 157 988 247 964 332 899 493 978 024 388 4e+157837

Doubling Season 5/5 Creatures with Haste(a silly big number)

attacking for a total of: 7.137 094 097 631 710 768 937 468 178 142 745 213 710 005 446 512 495 012 565 194 474 307 163 953 931 088 530 618 791 659 713 826 410 955 497 489 370 855 767 805 373 776 204 727 257 720 539 814 213 872 632 412 350 618 895 033 732 701 350 459 702 472 079 076 404 414 920 413 809 486 654 487 135 364 835 773 814 346 829 203 096 535 339 262 806 327 678 854 242 305 228 529 755 942 725 287 225 777 326 745 895 619 327 054 988 245 436 615 072 660 675 807 142 316 195 354 645 739 830 229 609 130 403 463 319 963 570 586 473 636 118 829 652 795 891 410 740 649 448 531 579 976 035 635 546 287 571 452 425 037 745 181 357 472 361 810 157 988 247 964 332 899 493 978 024 388 4e+157837 Damage


I'll post the deck list when I get home.[/QUOTE]

Unless you make Doubling season a creature, followed footsteps can't target it.

Edit: sorry, i just say opalessence. i thought it did somthing else, not make the enchantment a creature.
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Posted 13 June 2010 at 20:31

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This one is a theory I came up with or a perfect hand scenario, but I actualy cast Emrakul on turn 5 and attacked for 30 with deathouch, lifelink, and flying on turn 6. Ended the game =P

Elvish Piper, basilisk collar, Emrakul, 6 forests

in the first few turns, you can run a Joraga treespeaker to cut down on time.
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Posted 20 June 2010 at 10:22

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http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=84603
opening hand: 3 lanowar elves 2 elvish archdruids 2 forests
go second
turn 1: draw fourth lanowar elves, play forest and one lanowar
turn 2: draw forest, play forest and elvish archdruid
turn 3: draw joraga treespeaker, play forest, three more lanowars and second archdruid and joraga treespeaker
turn 4: draw Spawnsire of Ulamog, play spawnsire and treespeaker, level treespeaker to five
turn 5: draw nissa's chosen, play nissa's chosen play all eldrizi in sideboard w/ spawnsire, get extra turn from emrakul
turn 6: draw overwhelming stampede, play overwhelming stampede and attack with everything for 536 damage with trample and anniliator 39, more if youre not restricted to sideboard cards for eldrazi
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Posted 11 August 2010 at 19:07

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