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Snakeform
If a creature is equipped and/or enchanted, will Snakeform still reduce it to a 1/1 with no abilities? Assuming those enchantments pumped it to something greater than a 1/1
jamike84
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Posted 07 March 2011 at 17:54
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seras
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it becomes a '1/1 without abilities' which is then modified by whatever equipment and auras are attached to it.
so a snakeformed creature enchanted with Hyena Umbra becomes a 2/2 with first strike.
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Posted 07 March 2011 at 18:57
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jamike84
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Thanks for the reply. How about instant or sorcery abilities, say something like distortion strike
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Posted 14 March 2011 at 13:16
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seras
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same deal, snakeform only changes the base value of power and toughness....if another spell modifies them then you apply the modifier as usual.
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Posted 14 March 2011 at 20:26
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NoteworthyPlaysDecks
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actually fun fact, snakeforming a guy with hyena umbra on it makes it a 2/2 with no abilities! It's the P/T layers that lets the guy keep the P/T boost, but no abilities means no abilities, so no first strike. Abilities are granted/lost in the same layer, so it's timestamp order, so snakeform wins. Still a 2/2 though.
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Posted 15 March 2011 at 01:52
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seras
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so if you cast the umbra or instant after the snakeform resolves, then you would keep the ability?
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Posted 15 March 2011 at 02:04
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NoteworthyPlaysDecks
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yep, though of course if your opponent's playing the snakeform i doubt you'll get to do that in any sort of favorable position.
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Posted 15 March 2011 at 02:10
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Setherial
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Intersting. So what about equipment granting abilities and equip after snakeform resolves. Does that count towards timestamp because the ability was added to the creature after snakeform was cast or does the time the equipment entered the battlefield affect the timestamp and not the equip ability?
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Posted 15 March 2011 at 09:56
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NoteworthyPlaysDecks
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equip ability affects the timestamp. What matters is when the change happens, not when the object that caused the change enters play.
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Posted 15 March 2011 at 10:02
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Setherial
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thanks, I wasn't sure
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Posted 15 March 2011 at 10:10
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NoteworthyPlaysDecks
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No problem, happy to help.
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Posted 15 March 2011 at 10:19
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