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my buddy has alot of old cards and i built this for him after he played against my scarecrows its kinda pricy to do tho. normally its a turn 3 combo without his cards to speed it up with mox cards and lotus but you can also use dark rituals which i will use an example of both
the normal turn 3 thing is without any mana accel

Seven card winning hand

painter's servant
grindstone
mox jet
swamp
black lotus
mox diamond
pact of negation

first: drop the swamp, mox's, lotus.
second: tap the swamp for grindstone then both mox's for the painter's servant choose any color
third: sac the lotus for 3 mana to fuel the grindstone they put their entire deck into the graveyard because of the servants ability everything is the color you chose

replace the mox's for dark rits and instead of the black lotus add either lotus petal or another ritual

Hi guys,

I just built a deck which practically kills in one turn but uses the whole library.
In actual fact you still need the 7 cards in your hand for the killing combo.

The link is this: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=28479

Basically you need to have:

A tree in hand along with, A glimpse and any other affinity or low cost creature.

Then you have 3 options either you use the Charbelcher and burn, or Grind er and Wheel combo or you could use Lodestone for the kill.

Cards in hand:
Thrumming stone, black lotus, relentless rats, 2 mana vault, swamp

TURN 1
1: Play swamp, tap for black.
2: Play mana vault, tap for 3
3: Play mana vault, tap for 3 (5 total mana)
4: Play thrumming stone
5: Play black lotus (don't use ripple 4), sacrifice for 3 black
6: Play relentless rats (use ripple 4)
7: Get all 45 rats in play

TURN 2
1: Pwn for 2,025 damage
2: Watch opponents life drop to -2,005
3: Celebrate

unknownhunter: Clever, original, yet very pricey. Sweet

LittleBeastManBoy: Wow, though doesnt win on first turn (close enough, so who cares), Great job

anon: great strategy, but a little confusing. reply with the seven cards you would use and how you would use them. Great job

Please, everyone else keep posting

thanks, like i said tho you can replace the moxes and the lotus with dark rituals and they arent expensive and maybe a lotus petal idk how expensive they are tho, the grindstone is probably the most expensive with the dark ritual version

turn1
Opening hand is swamp, 4 dark rituals, phage, lightning greaves
play swamp
play dark rituals
tap mana for lightning greaves and a phage attach lightning greaves to phage and attack to win. :cool:

Hold on unknownhunters deck isn't original - as i have seen a few decks like this before. i know someone in scotland who has a proxy deck just like this, very familiar indeed !!

3 Black Lotus
1 Phage the Untouchable
1 Emblem of the Warmind

Play lotuses, the phage, and equip it with emblem of the warmind so it has haste. Then, you attack.

nic decks by the way, very nice indeed.

im sorry puffermad im sure your right, im sure all of these arent original im sure they all have had mention befor ive seen 2 that ik already but i dont know anybody else with the grindstone painters servant and i dont know anybody in scotland so im sorry i thought it was original

[QUOTE=covietech]3 Black Lotus
1 Phage the Untouchable
1 Emblem of the Warmind

Play lotuses, the phage, and equip it with emblem of the warmind so it has haste. Then, you attack.[/QUOTE]

hey that doesnt work the lotus' add 3 each phage costs 7 and warmind costs 4

I didn't mean to have a go at you - i've seen a number of yours decks - and they are very good. Also i keep forgetting that not everyone is British and therefore will not necessarily know anyone in Scotland. Its still a fantastic deck though - i had the joy of using that combo aboout a year ago and to the displeasure of the opponent of course.

emblem of the warmind definitely costs 1 red + 1 colourless

black lotus
mana vault
2x sensei's divining top
helm of awakening
altar of dementia
glaze fiend

play black lotus & sac it ->play mana vault & tap it to add 3-> play glaze fiend ->play helm of awakening ->play altar of dementia ->play sensei's divining top 2 times -> use the tops to draw cards & putting each other back ito play (as many times as you want) -> sac huge glaze fiend to the altar to mill your opp...

not the most simple combo but hey... it works :):):)

2x Black Lotus
Blood Frenzy
Berserk
Ball Lightning

play lotus', play Ball Lightning, attk & play Blood Frenzy & Berserk= 20 damage

turn one. pray you have the perfect hand.

1)swamp
2)dark ritual x 2 (mox's too rich for my blood)
3)wall of blood
4)shadowfeed
5)rite of consumption.
6)simian spirit guide

exile simian spirit guide from you hand for 1 red mana. play a swamp, dark ritual to add 3. another dark ritual to add 3 more. 6 mana floating. use 1 to play shadowfeed and remove a dark ritual in your graveyard from the game and gain 3 life putting you at 23 life. use 3 more mana floating to play wall of blood. use its ability and pay 20 life to give it +20+20 then use the last 2 to play rite of consumption to make your opponent lose 20 life. its kind of a strech i know but hey its worked for me.


another great combo is kederekt parasite+megrim+barbed shocker.


kederekt parasite-deals 1 damage to an opponent when they draw a card if i control a red permanent.

megrim- deals 2 damage to an opponent when they discard a card.

Barbed shocker- when it deals "any" damage to a player they discard thier hand and draw that many cards. check it out its pretty fun.

Hand:
Paradigm Shift, Island, Lotus Petal, Misdirection, 2x Merfolk of the Pearl Trident, Force of Will.

Turn 1:
Play Island
Play Lotus Petal
Cast Paradigm Shift
Cast Misdirection (Exile Merfolk of the Pearl Trident)
Change "your" to "target opponent's"
Opponent Exiles Library and shuffle's non-existent graveyard into deck.
Finish Turn.

Opponent's Turn 1:
Draw Phase, No cards available. Loss by default.

Hand:
Crucible of Worlds, Zuran Orb, Fastbond, 4x Forest

Turn 1:
Play Zuran Orb
Play Forest
Cast Fastbond.
Play 3x Forest (eat 3 damage)
Play Crucible of Worlds
Sacrifice 4x Forest to Zuran Orb (gain 8 life)
Play 4x Forest via Fastbond/Crucible (eat 3 damage)
Rinse/Repeat last 2 steps infinitely.

Opening hand:2x Black lotus, wheel of sun and moon, land, conflux, dreamhalls, transguild courier

lotuses and land for dreamhalls and wheel, pitch courier for conflux
Find
w: any w/r card
u: pact of negation
b:random blackcard
r: searing wind
g:another conflux
pitch w/r card for searing wind, pitch black card for conflux and repeat as many times as needed

opening hand: 2x black lotus, spellbound dragon, draco, mass hysteria or surge of zeal, forest, berserk or giant growth or anything else that gives it at least +1/+1
lotuses and land play dragon and haste giver, attack, discard draco and pump

lol 2 black lotus is a bit on the unrealistic side

it doesn't have to be realistic, it only has to work

also, paradigm shift doesn't target anything so the target can't be changed and that doesn't work

1 Mountain, 4 Rite of Flame, 1 Dragonstorm (and any other card)

Play in this order:
Mountain
Rite of Flame
Rite of Flame
Rite of Flame
Rite of Flame
Dragonstorm

Fetch up to 6 Dragons

I fetch all 4 my Kokusho, the Evening Star & my opponents loose loose 20 life each while I gain life equal to life lost this way. :D

Alright. Here is your hand:

Polluted Delta
Badlands
Dark Ritual
Dark Ritual
Mox Diamond
Buried Alive
Animate Dead

First, search for Volcanic Island using the Polluted Delta. Then use Mox Diamond, pitching the Badlands. Double Dark Ritual. Buried Alive, getting Worldgorger Dragon, Sliver Queen, and Anger. Animate Dead the Worldgorger Dragon which causes him to infinitely cycle everything in and out of play, tap your Volcanic Island each time it comes in to play. Once you have around 100,000 Man, just target Sliver Queen with your Animate Dead and use all the Mana to make all the Slivers you like. Finally, because of Anger and Volcanic Island working together, swing with Sliver Queen and a immense horde of 1/1 Slivers.

Really? Vintage staples from before wizard's axed everything. Opening hand:
Flash, Summoner's Pact, Mox, Island, Pact of Negation, Force of Will, Ancestral Recall

Turn 1:
Drop your mox, your island, cast summoner's pact, find Protean Collussus and put it in your hand. Then cast flash (with double counter back-up, it's likely to get through), putting Collussus into play. Let it die because of flash, and go thumb through your deck to find 1) Carrion Feeder, 2) Body Double (when Body Double comes into play, have it copy Protean Collussus). Sacrifice Body Double to Carrion Feeder, and now thumb through your library and find Mogg Fanatic, and Revelark. Sacrifice the Mogg to deal 1 bit of gobbo-burn to your opponent, then sacrifice revelark to your carrion feeder to fetch body double (copying revelark) and Mogg Fanatic again. Wash, rinse, repeat, gg turn 1.

The combo may sound complicated, but it's actually remarkably consistant and a deck like this was a real force in Vintage a bit over a year ago, before Flash and all other blue card-drawing awesomeness got restricted.

All right, Opening hand, I have a Black Lotus (1), Mox Ruby (2), Serra Avatar (3), Sneak Attack(4), Mountain (5), and two other cards that are not important, but for the sake of simplicity, two more mountains.

1. Drop Mountain
2. Cast Mox Ruby
3. Cast Black Lotus
4. Activate Black Lotus (3 red mana), Tap Mountain (4 red mana)
5. Cast Sneak Attack
6. Tap Mox Ruby (1 red mana), Activate Sneak Attack, putting Serra Avatar into play as 20/20 with haste.
7. Attack for the win.

I have the cards for this combo in my Arcbound Ravager deck and sideboard. I rarely cycle it in though due to the unlikely chance of drawing it.

1xDisciple of the Vault
2XMyr Retriever
1XVault of Whispers
1XMana Vault
1XMana Crypt
1XKrark-Clan Ironworks

Play the land tap it to cast Disciple. Play Mana Crypt tap to cast Mana Vault. The left over 1 mana plus 3 from tapping the Mana Vault are use to cast the Ironworks. Sac the Crypt to the Ironworks for 2 mana and cast a Retriever. Sac the Retriever for 2 to cast the second Retriever. Sac the second Retriever to return the first Retriever to your hand and 2 mana to cast it again. this sets up and infinite Retriever sac loop. Every time an artifact goes to the graveyard Disciple causes target player to lose 1 life.

The bonus is that being an infinite loop you can kill everyone in a multiplayer game.

Something that works a little bit easier:

Opening Hand
-Leyline of the Void
-Helm of Obedience
-Swamp
-Dark Ritual
-Dark Ritual

You begin with Leyline in play.
Put swmap into play, Tap for B, Play Dark ritual x2.
Play Helm, Tap for 1.
Say:''Your Turn''.
WIN

Anyone who needs power or banned cards to turn one win isn't trying very hard.

Mountain
Raging Goblin
Blazing Shoal
Blazing Shoal
Red Myojin/Progenitus
Red Myojin/Progenitus

You can also make a dreadnaught stick without stifle turn one if you wanna be funny too.

Mountain
Spark Elemental
Blazing Shoal
Progenitus
Either Spirit Guide
Phyrexian Dreadnaught

either play only needs six and the second one doesn't require two of any card. turn two wins without rediculous requirements are fun too.

Zapherion's solution seems to be the most efficient, if not economical. Could replace Frenzy with another Berserk to accomplish it with three unique cards only (all 4th edition!).

Q: Are potential counterspells supposed to be taken into account? Perhaps something to make the opponent empty his hand (i.e. like Mind Twist) to precede the combo to stop any chance of a response?

Opening hand:
1x Elvish Spirit Guide
2x Simian Spirit Guide
1x Violent Outburst
2x Bogardan Hellkite
1x Magister Sphinx

The second you gain priority, exile the spirit guides and cast violent outburst. The deck consists of nothing but huge creatures (kokusho, progenitus, etc, etc). The only card below casting cost 3 will be Hypergenesis. Hypergenesis goes off and you drop the hellkites and sphinx. Hypergenesis does NOT stop until everyone stops so drop away. All come into play effects go onto the stack and after hypergenesis resolves. Since you are the active player, you can order your effects and go off first. So magister sphinx drops the player's life to 10 and the hellkites blast for 5 each. Turn 0 win.

I have a deck and card combination that quickly kills the enemy and you don't even have to attack.

Opening hand
x1 Megrim
x1 Underworld Dreams
x1 Wheel of Fortune
x2 Black Lotus
x1 Dark Ritual
x1 Swamp

Put down your swamp and your two Black Lotus. Tap your swamp and play Dark Ritual then play Underworld Dreams. Use one Black Lotus to play Megrim. Then finally user the other Black Lotus to play Wheel of Fortune which deals your opponent 21 damage.

You can find my deck that uses this here: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=32357

no didn't take it into account; it was meant for a 1st turn go

Hive Mind 5u + Black Lotus + Black Lotus + Any Of The 0 cost pact spells

I'm sure everyone knows this one already

Flash + Ancient Zigerot/Gemstone Caverns + Lotus Petal + Proten Hulk

for it to work you need to be playing eather and artifact deck or tribe deck

I suggest silvers because Reflex Sliver Gives them all haste...

another good one turn win it's a lot like that other dudes but you won't again the life and you will need 4 bogarden helklits
1x moutain
3xrite or flames
1xseething song
1x dragonstorm
play the moutain then the rite of flames and the seething song then bring in the bogardens that 20 damage turn one or even if you have to keep goin that is still 4 5/5 on the feild plus one more dragon your can bring out 5

1x dark depths
1x vampire hexmage
1x dark rit
1x lotus petal
1x elvish spirit guide
1x instill energy

play dark depths and the lotus petal, then sac the petal for a black to cast dark rit. then use that mana to cast the hexmage, sacrifice the hexmage to remove the counters from the dark depths. use the spirit guide for a green mana to give it haste with instill energy. 20/20 indestructible flier in the face :p

you can use concordant crossroads instead of instill energy, or put both in deck to increase chance of draw. you can use black lotus (i dont have any) instead of dark rit, or both. you can use chrome mox + any other green card instead of the spirit guide. or you can use chrome mox + any black card instead of the lotus petal.

rest of my deck is built around getting the cards in hand or on the board with tutor spells incase i cant go off the first turn. "into the north" puts a snow land into play tapped, (dark depths is a snow land)

3x Black Lotus
1x Thopter Foundry
1x Sword of the Meek
1x Ashnod's Altar
1x Disciple of the Vault

Cast black lotus to give 3 blue and 6 black mana.

Cast Thopter Foundry, Sword of the Meek, Ashnod's Altar and Disciple of the Vault.

Use the last drop of mana to sac SOM to Thopter Foundry to give you 1 life and 1 1/1 flying thopter.
Sac the flying token to Ashnod to get 2 colourless mana. Rinse and repeat it for 20 times.
Disicple will do 20 damage for the number of times the token goes to graveyard.

1 mountain, 2 rite of flames, 1 Kiln Fiend, 1 Reckless charge, 1 Assault strobe

Play the mountain
Play both rite of flames (4 Mana)
Play Kiln Fiend for 2 (Get's +3/+0 for each instant or sorcery I've played)
Give it reckless charge for 1 (+3/+0 and haste)
Kiln fiend is a 7/2 with haste now
Give it assault strobe for 1 (double strike)
Kiln fiend is a 10/2 haste double strike and attack for 20 first turn

My deck has various turn 1/ turn 2 wins

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=137362

Since there are so many 1 turn win approaches, here is something a little different. Starting hand is swamp, dark ritual, entomb, exhume/dance of the dead/animate dead.

Turn 1, play swamp, dark ritual, entomb for platinum angel, then animate it. That stops a lot of first turn wins.

Can also change this around so instead of searching library to discard the platinum angel, have it in starting hand, and use blackmail/cabal therapy or similar.

I built a first turn win deck, which often works, and seems no-one wanted to play it:( So built this instead (minus entomb, $30/card is too much for me to be spending)

Let me know your thoughts and what can still beat it:)

Sure it would be much easier to build a pure counter deck that also does not let your opp win, but this just seemed like a giggle.

Starting 7:

Plains
Quest for the Holy Relic
Memnite
Ornithopter
Memnite
Ornithopter
Memnite

Fetch Argentum Armor when the quest resolves, and stick it on a Memnite. 2nd turn you're attacking, destroying their land/creature and hitting for 7 damage...

has anyone posted this one already?

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=206445

1st turn win
flash+protean hulk(dies) + 4disciple of the vault +8, 0 costing artifacts that die=32 life loss

extremely probable that will happen

you only need a flash or a tutor in hand to get the flash and a protean hulk or summoners pack in hand and the mana
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I just so happen to have created a deck that wins on turn 1 almost every time. Unfortunately it's probably a $20000 deck and is completely illegal in any format:

2x Yawgmoth's Will
1x Tendrils of Agony

2x Burning Wish
4x Demonic Tutor
4x Wheel of Fortune
4x Windfall

4x Duress
4x Gitaxian Probe

4x Street Wraith

4x Mana Crypt
4x Black Lotus
4x Mox Ruby
4x Lotus Petal
4x Lion's Eye Diamond
4x Mox Sapphire
4x Mox Jet

Sideboard:
1x Tendrils of Agony
1x Grapeshot
1x Time Walk
1x Mind Twist
1x Timetwister
1x Balance
9x whatever

I made a bad ass proxy version, it's hilarious to challenge someone to a casual game then pull that puppy out

3 Card hand
Tinker
Mox Sapphire
Land

This one is ridiculously expensive, but that's okay:
4 black lotus
1 kazandu tuskcaller
1 emblem of the warmind
1 Intruder alarm.

play and sac the black lotuses for 6G 3R 3U, play intruder alarm using all the blue, 6G 3R. Play the Kazandu Tuskcaller and enchant it with emblem of the warming using all the red and 1 green, 5G. Level up the Kazandu Tuskcaller twice using the green, G is left, but it is not used. Tap Kazandu Tuskcaller to put an elephant token onto the battlefield, Intruder Alarm then has all creatures untap. Repeat infinitely, then hit your opponent for infinite damage.

[QUOTE=Try4se]3 Card hand
Tinker
Mox Sapphire
Land[/QUOTE]

play land
play mox
pass turn?

A first turn win, budget, with no duplicate cards in your starting hand. (It's definitely cheating to use something like 4x Black Lotuses, or a few of the same moxes).

7 card hand would be:
Necrologia, Swamp, Dark Ritual, Lotus Petal, Cabal Ritual, 2 other cards.

Play the swamp, lotus petal. During your end step, cast dark ritual and cabal ritual, and sacrife petal for 5 Black mana total.
Cast Necrologia, paying 19 life to draw 19 cards.

In these cards, assume you will draw what you need, which is (or, if you prefer, include one or two of these as the other cards you have available in your opening hand). Bearing in mind by this point, you will have seen almost half your deck;
2 Crop rotations
Elvish Spirit Guide
Dark Ritual / Cabal Ritual
A combination of Necrologia, Needlebite Traps and SoulSpikes.

Use the Elvish Spirit guide for G. Cast Crop Rotation, sacrificing your swamp, to search for a Grove of the Burnwillows. Tap this to provide G (and giving your opponent 1 life) and cast the second Crop Rotation, searching for a swamp.

Use this swamp for a dark ritual. At this point you will have 3B floating, and threshold (7 or more cards in graveyard). Use 2 mana for Cabal ritual, leaving you with 6 floating.
Cast a couple of soul spikes by removing random black cards from your hand (perhaps duresses / hymn to tourachs etc... whatever you may be playing in your deck). Depending on your opponents life total and your cards in hand, use needlebite traps (which you can cast for 1 mana as the opponent has gained life) or cast another necrologia (which you will be able to cast as you will have gained life from soul spikes).

In total, 2-3 Needlebite traps + 2-3 Soul Spikes will be enough for the 21+ damage needed.

It sounds complicated, but all you really need to get sorted is a resolved necrologia. The rest of the deck plays itself!

You need to have this in your hand

Dark Ritualx4
Lightning Greavesx1
swampx1
Phage the Untouchablex1

Play Swamp.
Play all 4 Dark Rituals.
Play Phage the Untouchable.
Play Lightning Greaves.
Equip Phage the Untouchable with Lightning Greaves.
Attack.
You win.