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Why are standard elves considered unworthy for tournament play?

See title. My main standard deck is elves, and it works quite well, but they never seem to show up in tournaments. I generally match up decently against the big archtypes when people play them at my local game store. For extreme aggro like tempered steel and kuldotha red, I can generally get enough elves out to survive the first 5 or 6 turns, and after that they run out of gas while my elves just keep building up. I win at least 1/2 my games against them, maybe even 2/3. Valukut ramp is simple, I can almost always outrace it. Nearly 100% win chance against it. There isn't a very strong control presence where I play, but when I come against it I can generally eat through their counters with piles of elves, then just throw more out once they've run dry, thanks to stuff like Nissa and Lead the Stampede. Cawblade typically presented a problem, but game 2 I would sideboard in Ezuri's Archers and various other tools, and put up a decent fight. Combo decks like Splinter Twin, I either outrace or sideboard in fun stuff like nature's claim/naturalize/beast within. Killspell-heavy decks like RDW and vampires were much the same as counter, I always have more elves to replace the ones they killed. Now that M12 gave elves a 1/1 hexproof and those amazing hexproof boots, my matchup should be even more favorable vs them.

Despite all that, elves are never considered a serious contender, even at my store where I regularly place highly in tournaments. What makes them inferior to the big, popular archtypes? I've never seen any major weakness in them, except cawblade with pro-green and flying everywhere.
Posted 23 July 2011 at 04:47

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Oh, and here's my current decklist, if you're wondering.

http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=212728
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Posted 23 July 2011 at 05:06

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Well, first of all I hope you haven't played Caw-Blade recently... Jace and SFM have been banned in standard...

As for why it's not considered competitive, its the same deal as the Tempered Steel deck, there are a lot of sweepers right now, and most of the top decks have one MD or SB... Valakut plays Cataclysm (MD sometimes), UB Control plays Black Sun's Zenith (MD), UW Control has Day of Judgement (MD), RUG Titan has Cataclysm.

I could see you racing RDW/Burn, but I don't think its obvious you have the advantage. Anyone burning your elves is doing it wrong though...

You can't get through Phyrexian Obliterator very well, a card that shows up in UB Control and some Vamp SBs.

You said that people can't handle all the threats... but most good cards vs Elves generate 2-for-1s, 3-for-1s, or even more CA in favor of the non-elf player.
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Posted 23 July 2011 at 18:19

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Cataclysm? :confused:
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Posted 23 July 2011 at 19:12

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[QUOTE=surewhynot]Cataclysm? :confused:[/QUOTE]

Brain fail... What does 3 damage to all creature or all players for 1RR?
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Posted 24 July 2011 at 21:12

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[QUOTE=raggedjoe]Brain fail... What does 3 damage to all creature or all players for 1RR?[/QUOTE]

Volcanic Fallout, but that isn't standard...There's Pyroclasm, maybe that's what you meant?
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Posted 24 July 2011 at 21:16

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[QUOTE=surewhynot]Volcanic Fallout, but that isn't standard...There's Pyroclasm, maybe that's what you meant?[/QUOTE]

Slagstorm. This plus BSZ basically sums up the reason you can't play elves. EVERY major deck right now has access to one of those two colors, except UW control which has Day of Judgement.
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Posted 24 July 2011 at 21:20

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yeah, i play u/b and i won't leave the house with it unless I have a set of obliterators and sideboarded a set of life's finale.
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Posted 25 July 2011 at 13:32

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Just as with any number of cards previously mentioned in this thread, a single well placed earthquake could decimate your elves, especially if the earthquake user has fire servant on the field. With some cards, like phyrexian rebirth, the creating of an elf swarm could actually be used to strengthen your enemy to the point where they can crush you. So its not so much thatelves aren't really good, its more that elves are quite easy to completely disable.
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Posted 25 July 2011 at 18:31

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[QUOTE=sethbodine] So its not so much thatelves aren't really good, its more that elves are quite easy to completely disable.[/QUOTE]
I guess that kind of does mean that elves aren't really good, but if they aren't stopped they can be really nasty.
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Posted 25 July 2011 at 18:32

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[QUOTE=sethbodine]I guess that kind of does mean that elves aren't really good, but if they aren't stopped they can be really nasty.[/QUOTE]

Except.... they are very easy to stop. Also, we are talking abot standard....
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Posted 25 July 2011 at 19:27

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Right, standard. That knocks off Earthquake, but my point about Phyrexian Rebirth still stands
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Posted 25 July 2011 at 20:00

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[QUOTE=sethbodine]I guess that kind of does mean that elves aren't really good, but if they aren't stopped they can be really nasty.[/QUOTE]

Right! Both of my elf decks go BOOOOM! if you dont kill em right away. If you let elves get big you're pretty much dead. LoL But back in the day I've won a tournament with my elf deck. A lot of elves may be putos but with the right cards they can be pretty brutal.
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Posted 26 July 2011 at 05:24

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Honestly I think that Elves is fine right now. UB and Caw Blade (yes, it's still a deck somehow) have been cutting the amount of mass removal they have for more threats, so the elves deck could theoretically run 'em over if built right. Then you just have to worry about Valakut and Splinter Twin. Oh, and Tempered Steel's probably faster than you. You kill the Birthing Pod deck pretty well though.
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Posted 28 July 2011 at 21:26

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