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im trying to make a burn deck, im probably gunna fail pretty bad, ive never made a burn deck and i dont use alot of red, my very first deck was a red deck but it was mediocre and idrc for it, leave comments and tell me wat needs to be changed to improve my deck, i need a deck to play my freinds standard stuffy doll deck that hes buying, its basicaly untouchable I took out vexing devil because im on a bit of a budget and it raised the price of my deck about $50 so i swaped it for furnace scamp, i know, not a very good exchange but still somewhat effective Ive got a good 1 mana mana curve and i wanna try to keep it that way but if you think theres a card that will make this deck perfect, rercomend it down below in the coments and ill take a look at it, i still need a sideboard also, im taking suggestions, rite now im trying to make this as quick as possible Ive used this deck online and it wins most of the time, its really quick like ive had alot of turn 5-6 wins, my fastest was a turn 4 win with it and i wanna buy this deck because my friends buying a deck and its based around stuffy doll, he wnt be able to play his card til at least turn 4 (hes running green and white) and if i can win the turn he brings it out or the turn before he brings it out then perfect, so far though ive noticed that this deck is pretty quick, ive seen faster burn decks but this is my first try at a burn deck and i think i did a decent job, please leave some feedback so i can know if i need to change anything or if something in this deck is seriously wrong, if you leave feedback thanks for your oppinion. This is my 3rd deck to make top decks, ive only been on mtg vault for like 3 weeks if tht :p well anyways, im happy to have another deck in top decks, this deck isnt that good but it can hold up in 1 on 1 unless ur opponent is running a counter deck
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Fun thing bout a burn deck is u really cant screw it up. Point of burn is to finish the game as fast a possible. For creatures grim lavamancer and goblin guide are commen creatures and then just stack 1- 2 cost burn spells. lighting bolt lava spike, etc. Vexing devil is also amazing for burn. Drop the 2 mana burns and the red sun. enchantment isnt gonna show much use and x spells are more for a long game finisher witch isnt the point of burn. Sorry if I sound nit picky. Hope this helps :)
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dont worry about it, this helps out quite a bit actualy, itll free up space, what all should i drop again? and what should i put in there place?
i made a few changes, i say i have a pretty good mana curve to lol the only cards i have tht are above 2 mana are my fire servants which double the damge delt by red instants or sorcerys
take a look at my burn deck for ideas :)
i took a look but my deck is on a budget and alot of those cards wuld raise the price of the deck up quite a bit, thanks for the sugestion tho
Try Fireblast, Incinerate, Chain Lightning, and Furnace Of Rath. These should keep your opponent warm and toasty.
If this deck burns as fast as you say, how much use do you get out of the elixers? Also, I wouldnt use burst lightning or galvanic blast either, as they are effectively 2dmg spells in this deck. You should consider searing blaze for a two for one, or quenchable fire as a finisher. Although you may not want to play quenchable fire againt blue, as it basically becomes a very expensive 3 damage... (I know, both of them cost more than 1 mana, but are both very effective cards and I often include them in my burn decks. I have lost count of the games I have won with Quenchable fire) Seismic strike even? I hope this helps. :)
Elemental s ? I like it , Good deck, Check out this deck if you have a moment ! Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=389989
Are you sure you will be able to cast 4 Goblin Grenade when you got only 8 goblin creatures in your deck?
What are the odds that ill get all four goblin grenades in a 60 card deck
I always like to see budget builds. Here, Ruby Medallion is doing nothing for you; all of your spells only take R to play. I don't play burn often, but if I come up with any good card suggestions I'll be sure to post them for you.
thanks, theres a card i cant remember the name of but wat it does is red cards cost 1 less mountain to play, its an artifact for 3 mana and i cnt remember what its called or wat exactly is in the textbox, i cnt find it anywhere either
if you like budget decks go and look at my decks, there all under somthing like $70, my stuffy doll deck is probably my favorite deck to
nevermind, i have 2 that are higher then that, my relentless rat deck that i made as a joke, its like $105(high price) and the other is my self mill deck which is like $95(high price) but its because i have 2 plainswalkers in there and i shuld probably take them out, there not doin that deck any good
The only thing similar to that would be Gauntlet of Might, I think. Have you considered Shrine of Burning Rage?
haha lol i had it in here and i took it out, i took it out like 3 hours ago lol, its not quite quick enough for this deck but its a defininent for the sideboard, especialy if im playing a blue deck
btw u make pretty good decks, i took a look at a few of them and left a few comments
ruby medallion does nothing for you here, because it does not reduce the cost of any of your spells D: so, you should take that out and add in some more burn!
You defiantly want Guttersnipe and Mizzium Mortars.
ill look into them, thanks for the suggestions
Chain lightning :D
i keep hearing tht but im good, im not gunna add the card in there, tht card has killed me alot, ive used it wen my friends didnt have enough mana and i only had like 2 life left and he played sum card tht gave him extra mana til end of turn thn he used it aggainst me :p
I would take out the shock, for Lava Spike. Galvanic Blast, for Searing Spear. Gheistflame, for Incinerate. Furnacescamp for Guttersnipe. Arsonist, for Mudbutton Torchrunner. And Burst Lightning for Arc Blade. (It gets cast again, every three turns without paying its manna cost.)
I know it takes the manna cost up, this is what I would do though. The Lava Spike I'm fairly sure you will like only costs 1 red, and does 3 damage instead of 2. Searing Spear, costs 1 and 1 red, deals 3. Incinerate, costs 1 and 1 red, deals 3. Guttersnipe, 2 and 1 red, whenever you cast a burn spell, deals 2 damage to each opponent. Mudbutton Torchrunner, 2 and 1 red, when he dies he deals 3 damage, and it's a goblin. Arc blade, 3 and 2 red to cast, 2 and 1 red to suspend, deals 2 damage, and resuspends, with three time counters on it.
i originaly had most of these cards in the deck, then i decided to mess around and bring all of the deck down to 1 mana just to mess around, its actually pretty quick to :p turn 2 i can deal 11 damage :p
this deck is so close to top decks :p itd be my third deck on the top decks list :p but this deck sucks lol
*it would be
I don't know, I think it would run pretty good in 1vs1. Now it is the third deck you've had hit the top deck list.
its decent in 1 on 1 but thats about it and i play in a group of 3+ generally with some friends so i dnt use it much against them :p even tho it always ends up with me and my uncle goin 1 on 1 in the end because i kill off every1 else while he builds up a bunch of tokens, but generaly its close until he out of nowhere gives himself like 30+tokens, its just insane :p
Thanks for commenting on my pirate deck! This deck of yours looks fun to play. I might recommend Rift Bolt in place of either Tarfire or Shock, as it does 3 damage for 1 (suspended) red mana, albeit at sorcery speed.
thx ill look into it(:
ember hauler, pillar of flame, forked bolt, incinerate, dual casting, thunderous wrath, and re think vexing devil. trade up or at least run 1 or 2. that and thunderous wrath make a red deck sweet with burn.
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Nice deck. Howling mine for some draw maybe? Check out my massive damage Elemental deck: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=332911
You might want to try either breaking point or browbeat. Browbeat offers card draw or damage and it's always a bad choice for the opponent.
You could try using Lava spike for 3 dmg, or maybe Thundering wrath if you enjoy Miracle cards. I personally like things like Volcanic Hammer over using Shock, one more manacost aint really that bad. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=189446 You could take a look at my burn deck. I decided to go creatureless, and just to try and rush my opponent down to 10 hp to finish him with Hidetsugu's.
Lightning bolt. Lots and lots of lightning bolts.
increasing vengence or reverbrate would help.
Banefire, red sun zenith for bigger games, elementals , if your adding goblins in here maybe krenko command or there one thats makes goblin tokens with storm
Empty the warrens it's called
I would almost go with fervor over howling mine
ill send u 2 decks i mmade and u see wat u like from it and add ur own twist to it like the other guys have said a burn deck u cant really mess up u want ur deck to run off 1-3 land u dont want anything in ur deck to cost more than 4 mana (in my opinion if it does cost 4 mana make sure its good like koth for example) if u want plainswalkers in ur deck i would suggest either koth or chandra ablaze(yeah shes 6 mana but in the right type of deck shes like 0_0....rape) here r the 2 decks my goblin burn deck http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=392768 and heres my elemental burn deck http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=392762 hope this helps leave comments if it helps
oh and by the way vexing devil is like 5 to 6 bucks on amazon.com if it helps
well, i already have 1 vexing devil and i mite get another 2 off my cousin, im gunna add it back into the deck
Its not a bad deck....i run burn as well....go check out my green/red mana ramp/burn....itll just the same
I like where you are going with the deck, but you could run into a lot of trouble against a solid life gain deck. I would recommend Leyline of Punishment or Sulfiric Vortex to answer that possibility. If you wanted to add some additional mid-game power-> I really like Fire Servant for the double damange, and if you go with him, gauntlet of might or gauntlet of power add a lot to your midgame. Another option is to use 4 shrines of burning rage + 4 volt charge. This strategy allows for strong use of Koth of the Hammer, or even a Chandra if you feel like it. I like that you have 2 howling mines to take advantage of your low Converted mana cost and if you stick to that (as opposed to opening up your mid-game), I would say you could up that number to a 3-4. I think Furnace Scamp is too weak/slow for this deck and you would do better by taking him out to add 1-2 more Howling Mine, OR Goblin Guide. In fact, Goblin Guide would be better than the Arsonist or Fireslinger. Another good card you could add that would fit your theme is Lava Spike (1 mana, 3 dmg, only to a player, sorcery)... A solid answer to multiplayer is Sulfiric Vortex. A solid answer to tokens is Earthquake.
I *highly* suggest Reverberate. You can never go wrong with three or four of them in a burn deck.
I would take out galvanic blast, and put in cinder pyromancer. It taps to deal one damage, but untaps when you play a red spell. I have been killed by that card a lot actually. Or you could put in reverberate, or something that you can get the full potential of. Cause you only have 2 artifacts, galvanic blast needs at least 3 OUT to be most effective.
check the rules, galvinic blast counts as an artifact wen u play it, its weird and stupid but it does
Really? Can you post a link on that rule? Because that does not make any sense at all. Also, I hate being that guy, but... (shameless plug) can someone help me with my burn deck? It is a little different than normal, and I need opinions and advice. Thanks in advance.
Oops, forgot the link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=283461
honestly, im not sure if the guy who told me that was lieing or making crap up, i can look for the deck he said that on and ill post that link if you want, itll take a while tho, ive commented on over 225+ decks
Yeah, cause (no offense) but I am pretty sure that is hogwash.
I'll look for the deck, its gunna take a while but i'll find it
Galvanic is an instant so it can never be a permanent an artifact it as a permanent type you were lied to
yeah, I was pretty sure of that as well...
Shrine of Burning Rage should definitely be in your mainboard.
I would suggest fireblast of seismic assault for late game when you have too much land in your hand with all of the howling mines.
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May i suggest Seal of Fire, it's never left my burn deck since Mercadian Masques. It's a shock you can spend mana on when you have it free and use the burn any time you want by sac'ing the enchantment. Great deterrent for creatures with low toughness. I'd swap the howling mines for wild guess, so you can pitch away any extra lands for more burn and your opponent doesnt gain the card benefit from it.
pretty good deck for a budget. I don't have any cheap suggestions for you unfortunately :( I'd be interested to know if you get bored of playing this deck though? I generally get bored of a standard deck after about 10 plays. Usually quicker if its red, since it's all very samey.
i know how you feel, i made another deck actually, its almost top decks, i need like 2 more comments for tht but i can get a turn 3 win with it :p
RATE AND VIEW MY RED/BLUE BURN DECK PLEASE! MUCH APPRECIATED http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=393944
I have a red deck that wins no later than turn six. As it stands, it is undefeated. You want low cost creatures and spells to do the most damage. Lightning Bolt is a given. Also look at Spark Elemental, Hellspark Elemental, and Lightning Axe. Put some things with Unearth, or Madness as an ability, so you can cast Lightning Axe on the first turn for one mana, and do five damage. Just my take on it.
Can you plz look at my burn deck? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=340569
Who are you asking? Lol
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lol. milfstink... best name ever. everyone go see if my deck is worth looking at please. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=394581
Glad it amuses you. Haha
nice build not sure if anyone said it yet but guttersnipe is treating me rather well when i do burn itll turn lightening bolt into a 5 for 1 spell also im tryin to get my deck tournement ready so if anyone wants to look t it its redblue burn http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=396310
What about cinder pyromancer/guttersnipe w/ more one/two mana burn spells?
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=396221
Hey, I know it might slow it down just a tad...but I love Shrine of Burning rage. I have it in my deck and it's saved my ass so much. But...super fast...I like this! Check out mine: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=255995 - Its just a fun deck, nothing really special....i love Chandra.... -naviex
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