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attach lure to stuffy doll, boost up ur oppenents creatures and boost them up, they have to block and stuffy dolls ability makes them take that much damage instead Id really appreciate some feedback, im new to making decks but i gotta feeling this deck could work pretty well, please leave some feedback whether its good or bad :p I finally relized a way around aggro decks and it was right in front of me this entire time, ive seen this card almost everyday, witchbane orb, my saviour(til some punk destroys it) Hi chandler, if your reading this, thats rite, i made this deck before you did and i hope i made it better then you did :p -Gage I could use some help on another deck of mine now, i just started it and its based on one creature, as of rite now, my stuffy doll deck would destroy it but thats understandable, heres the link http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=387569
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You should replace Farseek with Rampant Growth. As Farseek is able to fetch you anything expect forest. I like the idea as in casual, but have you thinked that are you able to counter removal as Stuffy Doll seems to be your only wincon? Just curious :) If you have time could you pleae check my new token menace deck and feel free to comment.
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Plus if you have it casual way and you don't want it to be in modern replace that rampant growth with nature's lore and you get untapped forest.
i made this deck late last night and didnt even notice i added farseek in there over rampant growth :p thanks for the opionions
Eliytres, post the links to your decks. It makes it easier on other members to get to your deck quickly. Most of use, or at the very least, I am very lazy. So, directing us to exactly what you want us to look at with it being just a click away will probably give you better results in comments and rates. Just a tip. GW - Sneaky Blinkster - Welcome to all suggestions. (Standard) :] http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=382445
Well, like I said -this deck is easy to bypass. It looks like a control type, but you're missing more control spells in this deck rather than pumping your stuffy doll? I dunno, maybe I'm wrong but it feels like you'd be falling way behind with aggro player instead of controlling the battlefield. Have you tested this deck so far? It does look good, its just my opinion that you could have few problems with it :)
im not pumping up my stuffy doll actually, i attach lure to my stuffy doll so he/she has to block with everything then i pump up his/her creatures and they end up taking alot of damage and if there not dead thats when i use prey upon
do you know any green counters? i know blue has alot but i wanna stay mono on this deck, or any artifacts that i can tap and prevent damage? im new to making decks and i used cards i know on this deck but i dont know/rremeber any green counters
One of my favorite is fog for example, if you're still waiting to put stuffy doll on battlefield. 4x Fog will give you couple of turns if it gets too spicy. And its only one green mana :) There is a spell for phyrexian mana that gives +2/+2 (forgot the name) mainly you can pay 2 life if you care about that sort of thing? Like you said, not many green control spells, so you have to relly on big creatures for that. Since you don't have that either, fog might help buy you some time. otherwise, this looks very solid deck that I may try it out. Burn decks could give you headache, I think. As for creature search, try Sylvan Tutor :) Also, try Sheltering Word instead of swiftfoot boots? -mainly it could give you your life back and hex it + you could boost its attk and tap it for dmg while giving you even more life, and then you could possibly attack with Copperhorn Scout just to untap the Doll ;) perhaps Llanowar Druid for sneaky spellcasting after you've tapped all mana? let me know how it goes, I'm currious to see what you'll pick.
i had llanowar druid in here, i dont remember why i took it out though, i mite have took it out for swiftfoot boots, i appreciate all the help and ill make sure to edit it til i get it just right, i thought about fog and pondered and i was just hoping on getn my stuffy doll out quick enough but ehhhh ill put fog back in here
they phirexian mana ramp is mtuganetic growth or sumthing
Great concept, I love it. My only suggestion is adding Swiftfoot boots to protect your Doll, and drop Farseek for the boots
i dont know why i didnt think about that :p thats a good idea ill add some of them in there, do you know any green cards that allow me to search my deck for a creature card though?
Worldly Tutor, Summoners Pact, Commune with Nature, Living Wish, and Weird Harvest
i added in a few cards, i think its almost finished but im still taking suggestions on how to fix it up even better, im hoping this deck at least makes upcomming :p i like the deck and i put alot of thought into it and ive taken alot of suggestions into hand
never mind, it did make upcomming(: thanks guys, i hope it keeps gettn attention, the more attention it gets the better i can make this deck based off of your guys suggestions
Deff fog in sideboard, 3x is even enough. Anything can happen to your stuffy doll ;) you want to be prepared. Not to mention if you're up against poison players D; that would suck for your doll. But you do have Ancient to counter both counters which is good. You should sideboard some life gaining card, what if you're against a burn deck? :D Try sideboarding Mira, Sylvok outcast just in case you run into poison. Your doll shouldn't have any problem then. I can't figure out why did you put moonmist tho? lol Forbidden Orchard is kinda expensive for a land, even if it puts one spirit on your opponents creatures. I doubt he'll run out of them, and you still have doll's tapping ability. But really, Copperhorn Scout would be great here. You could use your elfs for mana and doll for tapping attack. and Copperhorn Scout attack for untapping all elves, thus giving you mana and abilities on your opponents turn :D What about Sylvan Tutor tho? I though you needed creature search?
actually i dnt plan on using stuffy dolls tapping ability, what i plan to do is attach lure to it, attack with it, all his creatures has to block, and he/she takes damage equal to the sum of all his creatures power, im still working on the deck
can u believe sheltering ancient only cost 2 mana though? and its a 5/5 that allows me to put a +1/+1 counter on a creature
and moon mist is just to prevent damage
Hmm, well ok -the fog does the damage prevention for you, and its only combat -not including spells like lightning bolt. Ancient is neat, problem is time counters on him, bit of a drag. Well, nvm about the tapping ability of stuffy doll :) I just like to be prepared. There are spells that won't allow you to attack, mainly artifacts and enchantments -but your naturalize should do the trick, and you have 4x dolls. Just pray you don't win up against opponent with 4x pacifism :D All that's left is to test this deck, let us know how it goes :D I imagine its helluva fun
im gunna buy it, i bet my friend chandler i could beat his entire green token deck with one creature and a few enchantments and if i do beat it, he owes me what i paid for the deck, if i beat him, i owe him what he paid for his deck, i made this deck just to fend off people who have alot of creatures or they have large creatures like primidial hydra or hamletback goliath
pariah and guilty concience are by far the best things to put in a stuffy doll deck, also theres pretty much a deck type around those cards and pestilence to clear the board and olschool kor cards to redirect damage
the thing is, i dont wanna clear the board, i want my opponent to have as many creatures as possible, i attach lure to stuffy doll so all his creatures have to block, then he or she takes damage equal to the sum of all the power of all his creatures you see? did you read all of stuffy dolls effect?
I was going to suggest entangler for defense but then I saw you are going mono green. I would highly recommend green white with entangler and Serra's Blessing for vigilance, that way you can attack and you have stuffy doll for a perfect defense. Also, spidersilk armor so you can block flying. If you want to pump your opponent's creatures up, it is probably best to do it with instants. That way, when they are attacking you you will not regret making them stronger. Best suggestions (mostly green, but the best possible card is again, white): Righteousness <- White, but your best possible card Gerrard's Command <- Again, white, but forces a blocker to untap AND makes it bigger Night//Dar (Day) Now for just green cards: Beserk Vines of Vastwood Primal Bellow <- Only add this card if you are NOT adding white Might of old Krosa Echoing courage would combo nicely with forbidden orchard. This deck is okay, but if you want it to do its absolute best, it NEEDS to be green white.
Just read thrashtastical's post and Pariah would be much better than Entangler. If you are stubborn about mono green you could run Pariah's Shield. You have a win con, but you haven't thought about defense yet.
i liked ur idea of white and green so i went with it, i really liked ur idea and ur right about periah, its perfect for the deck, thanks for the suggestion, its really helping make this deck better
I'm glad I could be of service, If you would be so kind to return the favor, I'd be happy to take comments, suggestions, and likes on my mono black zombie tribal deck. It's almost front page (a little ahead of yours) and I would like it to get there. I think it is worthy. I play all my decks in multiplayer, and at times this one has made tables give up. :) http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=381596 I'm also a big fan of my treefolk deck. It also makes multiplayer tables give up. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=382265
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PS. If you have Pariah, you don't need Entangler or Serra's blessing AT ALL. Pariah does on its own, for less mana, what entangler and Serra's Blessing do together. You could take them out in favor of two enlightened tutors unless you really want to avoid old cards. I would also recommend getting rid of Oakenform and Sheltering Ancient, because they give your opponents permanent boosts and you can't guarantee that you will have Stuffy Doll and Pariah out when you need them, which means those two cards will be dead in your hand. Consider instead having some of the following: Survival of the Fittest Defense of the Heart Pattern of Rebirth Eladmari's Call Fauna Shaman Green Sun Zenith All of those could help you get Stuffy out ASAP, you can't afford to not have him available in this deck. Also consider: Enlightened Tutor (mentioned above) Academy Reactor Sterling Grove Idyllic Tutor These will all allow you to find whatever enchantments you need. Other cards to consider: Sylvan Library Abundance Pursuit of Knowledge Harmonize These are because, if your deck is based around instants, you want to keep your hand full. Also consider: Wall of Omens Wall of Glare Wall of Blossoms More card draw and defense to allow you to set up your combo. Even if you are trying to avoid old cards, you should be able to find some new ones in those suggestions that will allow you to make your deck work faster and more reliably.
I second most of these card choices. Beowulf has the right idea, and I'd definitely take the time to seriously consider most of what he's offered. Something I always offer to white players is the Ajani Goldmane + Wall of Reverence combo. Read Ajani Goldmane's third ability, and then read Wall of Reverence. Seeing as you already have Pariah in the deck, you should consider Cho-Manno, Revolutionary. He's simply awesome with Pariah.
actually i added in pariah for stuffy dolls abilitys, all damage that is done to stuffy doll basicaly gets redirected to my opponent :p
I'd add in tempting licid. Just seems to have slightly more utility than lure. Not sure what elvish piper is doing in this deck.... It's a good card, just doesn't belong here.
thats a good point, when i first started making this deck i had a few highcosting creatures so i put it in here, im gunna take it out, i didnt even relize it was still in here
i replaced elvish piper with echoing courage tho, if you get the strategy then you understand all these cards that give creatures +x/+x are for my opponent and not for me, its all based around stuffy doll
im trying to keep alot of the older cards out of this deck by the way, i dont know why but i am, some of the older cards are just rediculous, there almost like unhinged cards, thats why so many of them get banned
3x llanowar elves 4x stuffy dolls 3x pariah 3x lure 4x vines of vastwood 4x prey upon 4x righteousness 3x serra's blessing 3x fog 2x awe strike 3x giant growth 3x wall of blossoms 10x forest 7x plains 4x sunpetal grove. Is what i would go with. this way you get some protection if you need it life gain and then can take your time setting yourself up in the mean time. and its more heavy on green than white about 2.2 times more heavy.
Interesting battlefield manipulation. Don't have any particular suggestion, it's ok the way it is. For any other issue, follow Beowulf's advice lol. He knows. Congrats
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What about adding in the deathtouch sorcey that came out recently Serpent's gift ? Check my other decks if you have time
Try adding Secluded Steppe and Tranquil Thicket to help search for Stuffy. There is a very good chance that this won't help much at all and you shouldn't use them, but you should at least try.
All I'd really suggest is just finding ways to get out stuffy doll as quick as possible. Nice deck though.
I agree with Beowulf to I would drop this entangled and serra's blessing. Maybe add a couple more mana. Nice concept I'm also interested on how it plays out. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=374776 check out my token deck it always does very well for me
The problem is that the opponent can just attack with everything and then he doesn't have to block because there are no legal blockers.
This idea is genius! I love the concept, but the mana base is a disaster... I C Melira is for -1/-1 counters wich could kill Stuffy... Perfect the deck! Make it much stabil by addind some creature - search spells!.. Here is a discussion I'm starting: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=386870
very nice. i nice the crd stuffy doll. i always wanted a deck for it and this very good. I think it would be better though if you made stuff doll larger so it was an effective attacker, and if u added red and used spells like lava axe on it.
thanks for all the support and all the suggestions, im taking all of this into consideration and i plan to make this deck as close to perfect as possible, im glad this made top decks also, ive worked hard on this deck and ive taken alot of suggestions into consideration, thanks for all the support and all the feedback
So, I'm using my five hour energy bottles to break dance against each other. Pretty awesome stuff.
lol haha :p
Yeah, nice job. Stuffy doll is one of those cards that needs to be abused to be good, and looks like you've found a way to do just that! Nettling Imp, Sirens Call, or Deadly Allure might be fun. Also, the mana base seems off here. 14 land + 4 mana dorks + 3 Rampant growth = mana screw as far as I can see. Search the internet for this article title. It's an old StarCityGames.com post, but it's probably the single best article ever on how to develop a solid mana base. Mmmmmmmmmana...Five Rules For Avoiding Mana-Screw
i literaly just relized how mana screwed i am like rite before i read this, im gunna change that now tho, i also made my deck a little less vunreable to aggro decks
LOL! You got 98 likes and only two people noticed how mana screwed the deck is! I guess you have created a fun deck to build, hence my detailed comment earlier. Once it's complete it'll be very powerful. good luck taking cards out to make space for lands!
i know rite, ughhh itll be a pain, but i added in a few cards to protect my self from aggro/mill type decks
ya, i got 100+ likes in a lil under 2 days and i made the top deck page in a lil over a day :p this is awesome considering this is the second deck ive built :p
heres the link to another deck that im working on guys and i could really use some help on it, its all based on one creature http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=387569
I love stuffy doll, another good combo card to use with it is Pariah's Shield. You equip it to Stuffy doll and boom you let them freely attack you direct damage you and what not and watch them cry. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=263301 Check out my En-Kor deck as I have that combo there.
I find a green stuffy doll deck works awesome with Ulvenwald Tracker works like an unlimited prey upon as long as the creature doesnt die
this deck needs a gideon jura! but as most say, what if u dont draw a stuffy dull? ur fucked
you could add asceticism or spellkite to prevent most kill spells. and you got the witchbane orbs. and since you got got flyers you can always add mighty leap or spider umbra so you can make sure you can take care of whites mini fliers. you dont want to waste your fogs on minor damage that will eventually build up over time. and as friggid said ulvenwald tracker would work like a charm.
Stuffy doll is one of the most fun cards ever created. 'nuff said. Actually, if you could check out this here deck ---> http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=387693 it would really help
Interesting deck. It would definetaly be a nice match up, I have a feeling yours would take it though.
thanks(: ive been working pretty hard to try and make this deck as best as it can be within a 60 card frame with a 15 card sideboard
Ulvenwald tracker might help with stuffy
i considerd this card in this deck and for a little while it was in here but there were just too many good cards for this deck and not enough room, so i got rid of them for pariah and witchbane orb but im considering sideboarding witchbane orb until i play a curse deck
or i play a mill deck
hey guys, heres a deck i think has some potential, i didnt make it and i didnt post it but i think this guy deserves some credit and maybe some help from you guys http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=387823
Leonin Abunas would do you well, as it gives artifacts you control Hexproof. It would work well with the Witchbane Orb. The deck itself is beast to say the least, but it would seem to do well with maybe an Entangler and Curse of the Nightly Hunt. Either way, +1. I like the concept.
Didn't see you had an Entangler in here already, but maybe replace the Llanowar Elves and the Arbor Elves with a playset of Birds of Paradise so you can add the red curses.
hey guys, i made a new deck, its based on milling urself out, i need help with it, i think its ok but i think it has good potential, heres the link http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=388361
I would add the tutors, Enlightened Tutor and Worldly Tutor to help you find the enchantments you need or the Stuffy Doll. They are expensive, but would help to obtain the cards you need faster. Silvan Library could help too, please comment my deck too if have time, http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=387128
im trying to keep this decks high price around $50 dollars becuz im going to buy it and i have a budget
ya this was my idea and yes gage mine is better :)
u finaly see my damn deck lol idk chandlor, i ll go check it out :p
definetly use birds of paradise. or replace arbor elves with avacyn's pilgrim. its pretty much a llanowar that taps for white istead of green witch is a bonus. i couldnt really see much wrong with this deck, if you wanted to point out any issues that are bothering you?
i wanna get stuffy doll out alot faster, rite now i can get it out turn 4 if im lucky
Ah, stuffy doll. I knew it was a good card, but only somewhat knew you could make a deck based of him. I love how you put prey upons in there.
this entire deck is based around boosting up my opponents creatures then attacking him and making him block with everything via lure so stuffy doll takes damage equal to the sum of the power among his/her creautures and if they have a token deck or they have a strong deck... its game over, theres nothing they can do :p and pariah is perfect if im playing an aggro deck :p
I think you should take out the two Arbor elves for 2 llanowar, and add 4 avacyn's pilgrim and/or birds of paradise. There is gilded locous, but by the time you can afford that you will have your stuffy doll out. There is also sol ring, but I'm not sure if it's legal.
Yeah stuffy doll is a game changer when it comes out. You have to sit around and wait for removal when you attach lure. Nice deck
thanks man(: i appreciate tht alot
Please, I need help quick with this tournament deck that I am working on: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=392216 Thank you!
i don't know if ur still using this deck or not or even want suggestions but i thought that growth spasm might be a little better than rampant growth because if you have stuffy in hand and the mana to cast growth spasm you instantly have enough for stuffy. don't if that helps at all but it could get him out there a little quicker.
This deck looks to have a manna problem, would like to see it the decklist updated to Standard format. Love the concept.