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Imagine the look on your friends faces when they realize a bunch of defenders killed them. Not enough you say? Well then, i'll just tell you that on TCG Player you can get this deck for less than $20! That makes this a budget deck!!! Still not enough? Well that's all i got.Non Budget Version: http://www.mtgvault.com/gykx/decks/death-by-defender-not-budget/More win con version http://www.mtgvault.com/gykx/decks/death-by-defender-x-win-cons/
There are a few ways to set up the defender kill.Method One: Axebane Guardian enchanted with Freed from the Real and at least one other defender on the field. With this you can tap and untap Axebane Guardian endlessly for infinite Mana.Method Two: Axebane Guardian soulbound to Galvanic alchemist and at least three other defenders on the field. With this you can tap and untap Axebane Guardian endlessly for infinite Mana.Method Three: Axebane Guardian equipped with Umbral Mantle and at least three other defenders on the field. With this you can tap and untap Axebane Guardian endlessly for infinite Mana.With any of these set up, just use Diabolic Tutor to find and(or if you already have it in your hand by then) cast Fireball to kill your opponent! And all their creatures if you really want to rub it in their disbelieving face!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What's the point in diabolic tutor if the only card you're going to search for with it is a fireball... why not just have another fire ball. Diabolic tutor is a card designed to set up more complicated combos. This is a relatively simple combo. 2 of them would suffice. If not none, and then you wouldn't need the golgari guild gates.
im not only tutoring for fireball, i can generate 2 black mana to drop it with just axebane and one other defender on the field, i may also need to search for galvanic alchemist, umbral mantle, or freed from the real to get the infinite going
You know, I really love this deck.While may want more Fireballs, it's decks like these that make me love MTG.
Vent sentinel
Made a few changes to the mana and added a sideboard
Add door to nothingness. With axebane guardian it's very possible to kill someone with it. My friend did it to me.....
Door only kills one person fireball kills everyone and everything
Yes but when someone nevermore or slaughter games fireball that's it. Or even counter. I'd just add some options yanno?
it would be a good idea to take this guys advice and add in more options.
this deck is countered with 2 counterspells, i would suggest banefire instead...
Devil's play would be better. Banefire is only good against control. Banefire should be sideboard. But of course this is budget, and fireballs are cheap and most people have them laying about so you have to think about that.
I prefer 4x Overgrown Battlement rather than x2 fog bank and Gomazoa's
i need the antiflying more than i need mana
What about Wall of Tanglecord?
Or Spidersilk Armour?
Doorkeeper from ravinca!it provides you with an additional win con, paired with the door to nothingness (as someone already suggested) your win cons are 3!and definitively go for banefire!
RE Banefire - cost is prolly why not. Perhaps in a non budget...? I know I will definitely add it!!
Provided you have the infinite mana going and a bunch of defenders the only thing that can stop you is a counter spell. That's why I will suggest Overmaster. Banefire too but that has already been suggested. But with Overmaster, you can keep your ultimate win card and still keep it from being countered. I also like Hired Torturer.
Here we are everybody, the non-budget version of the deck using all of your suggestions!!!!http://www.mtgvault.com/gykx/decks/death-by-defender-not-budget/
This deck is a hard to use. U don't need fireball. Use nimbus swimmer to win the game, it's easier to play when u don't have the combo. Try more x cost cards, cause u probably will not won a control deck this way
Vent sentinel would work too
I added V.S. in my incarnation of this deck
Very nice deck ! Very well thought out.Can you check my deck? It's with defender but they've different work ; ]http://www.mtgvault.com/wojtux/decks/my-lands-killed-you/
PRIMORDIAL HYDRA! But that kills the defender theme :-/
overgrown battlement, while not as versatile as axebane, could work. if you can't draw axebane, use the above combos just adding one izzet guildgate to the calculation. and to deal with anti-flying, which you said was an issue, try levetation. then EVERYTHING has flying. and while you're at it, try circle of protections in the sideboard, particularly red. if you can get infinite mana, you can get infinite defense.
just made a defender deck myself check it if you wanthttp://www.mtgvault.com/darkmoonwolf666/decks/wall-of-destruction/
defender kills woot! i made a deck that works with high toughness creatures and turning their toughnesses into damage output. ( the best defense: http://www.mtgvault.com/pyrothos/decks/the-best-defense/)
i already did, please for the love of all that is sane QUIT BUGGING ME! sorry, lost control for a second, but seriously, please stop.
* facepalms* yep, gonna start trying to ignore this guy...
too funny
glad someone besides me is laughing, not sure it's for the same reasons of course haha.
Wut. Are you schizophrenic? ;)
i deleted all of the comments of a very attention starved individual
no, Dragonwolf, just very annoyed and tired haha, plus that guy had put the same comment on all but 1 of my decklists and many others, so while laughing it was mainly at the absurdity of the situation.
TY, have all my up votes! GyKx
thank you for deleting the comments! that guy is INSANE!
Pyrothos: let me guess. If it was snarlingtoes he said go check.out ncarvers decks, if it was wolfdragon7 he said noob camper
snarlingtoes was his name, being a turd is his game
Yeah. Either he or someone named poet master created multiple accounts to troll everyone :P
How do you get so many likes..... :P :'(Would you check out my defender deck gykx?http://www.mtgvault.com/dragonwolf7/decks/izzet-defender/
Idk, i guess it's because this a deck that contradicts the normal restrictions of magic, i.e defenders can't kill an opponent. People like decks and ideas that utilize something in a way in which it was never intended to do.
What about Overgrown Battlement
Not really neccesary and it only gets me green mana, axebane gets any color
Ok, gotcha
I like the idea of all of these different defender abilities, but I was thinking a wall of frost/miming slime combo. it goes against the idea of only having defender creatures, but the deck would be way more powerful. replace the galvanic alchemists with them.
that wouldn't work in this deck unless it was after axebane was superpowered with Umbral Mantle cause mimng slime goes of power, not toughness
sorry, I always get power/toughness mixed up
Liked this deck so much that I'm adapting it & even "borrowing" the name. Thank you for sharing it. I found it to be VERY educational!!
happy to help, if you post the adaptation here link it so i can see if you dont mind
I would be proud to! http://www.mtgvault.com/2amp/decks/defended-to-death/
so, i'll just have to save 2 counterspells for your fireballs? you should at least use banefire instead if that's the only winning condition in your deck..
Thats what i was thinking
Makes it not budget
True. :PBlaze? Or is that only to creatures?
ok then maybe add the vent sentinel, get overgrown battlement + helix pinnacle if it's cheaper. and maybe tinder wall or orochi leafcaller. the important thing is you may want to add some other threat to your opponent rather the only single axebane guardian.
ive thought about it and the thing with this deck is if you've never played against one like it, you're not going to know what to expect, so if all you see is defenders you don't necessarily know what the hell is going on and dont figure it out til you and all your creatures get fireballed.
lol haha yup.
My defender deck was kind of similar to thisI was using Ludovic test subject as a defender and lategame he becomes a 13/13 trampleand also Mentor of the Meek, everytime a creature with less then power 2 enter the battlefield, I can draw a card, and all defender are less then 2 power, with the kind of combo you have you can fill the board really quickly
I also have mind grind, with the mana produce by the defender, I usually mill the oponent to death in a single spell
i realize there are many other ways to kill and win with defenders, the main point of this deck was to show a unique way to use defenders to win with out spending tons of money. The infinite mana was just something unique for people to see that may have never seen before or thought truely possible
Budget decks are perfect for beginners :)
nimbus swimmer, ninblis of breath
switch the alchemist for wall of frost
alchemist is one of the triggers for infinite mana combo
please come up with more ways to trigger infinite mana and incorporate them into your deck.
there are only 3 to trigger with axebane in standard, another that now exists but would not work in this deck, is to have a total of at least 4 mutavaults and or awaken the ancients on your field, then exile ready // willing onto elite arcanist when you cast him, infinite mana and indestructible creatures
I'm going to see about making my own version of this, please give me pointers when i'm done, i'm trying to stay within my own collection for most of my decks.
could you try to think of ways to get infinite mana between these cards, axebane guardian, and a buttload of defenders? add some other cards if necessary.Village bell-ringer, burst of strength, vigean graftmage, niblis of the breath
Niblis works if freed from the real is on it. Vigean works with axebane and at least 2 other defenders, village bell-ringer could work if you had cloudshift or ready // willing, exiled on elite arcanist. i dont see anyway with burst of strength.
My version won't be nearly as good as yours, as the only combo's I can use are the Vigean and the bell-ringer/cloud-shift. thanks for the ideas though!
take out the red lands and somehow squeeze in some more deck search/draw card. in theory you should only be using fireball once axebane guardian is around, and he can make any color of mana, including red.
The red lands are in there because ive come across a few several games where my axebanes got killed off, but i could still fireball with my land for the win.
Have you thought about adding wall of frost?
I've already suggested that earlier. he turned it down.
maybe add a few doorkeepers, just for an alternate win con.
i've had this build for over a year, but mines less on a budget and utilized better defenders
I made my own version of this, called defenders of death. please look at it!http://www.mtgvault.com/planeswalker999/decks/defenders-of-death/
try door to nothingness. I don't know what you would take out, maybe one card here one card there.
Sands of Delerium.... Nuff said :D And it still maintains budget status.
add Niv-Mizzet infinite damage and only $2