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A land that has Eldrazi as a Predecessor, If only this Descendant had a Path he could follow.
Mutavault triggers descendants path for eldrazi creatures, as do the spawn tokens. So summon at will or by fate.
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This seems like a powerful combination, and wold consider playing something similar myself, but must respectfully ask one question of the legality of the mechanic involving Mutavault and Descendents Path: because Descendents Path triggers at the beginning of your upkeep, would you be able to activate the ability of Mutavault and turn it into a creature before the Descendents' Path triggers?I hope I'm not totally destroying your awesome idea with this question.
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Yes, you activate it as an interrupt because it is a mana triggered ability
"in response to descendants' path triggering i turn mutavault into a 2/2 creature with all creature types" just as you could naturalize an enchantment for it triggering
Ah...so your mutavault just goes on the stack above Descendants' path...thanks for clearing that up, I'm sure it would start a fight if it were to crop up in a game.
exactly and yeah it probably will start an argument, but that's what judges are for
I think you're concept of the stack is a little skewed. While, yes, you can activate mutavault in response to he path's trigger, the fact that it uses mana to activate it is irrelevant. I believe you made a comment on a deck previously talking about mana abilities, and I don't think you fully understand what they are. Abilities are activated at instant speed unless otherwise specified (ex level up). A mana ability isn't unique in that it can be used at instant speed, but rather that it itself can't be responded to. ** Only abilities that ADD MANA to your pool are considered mana abilities. **Additionally, you can naturalize an enchantment in response to it's ability, BUT the ability WILL STILL GO ON THE STACK and can therefore still resolve.ps: im not yelling theres just no italics and I want to stress certain words.
Okay, a judge at the store i go to said a mana triggered ability is a mana ability. and i figured with the capitalization there otherwise it'd all be in caps lol
triggered abilities that add mana are also mana abilities. You may have just been confused by terminology there.
To be fair you can also activate in during your untap step to fully get around that, but yes, you can also activate the Mutavault in response to the Path trigger to have it work the way you wanted
I like the concept of Mutavault + Descendant Path. But since the deck is heavily dependent on getting out the Descendant Path, you might want to include something that lets you fish for it. My own Eldrazi is more of a mana ramp Eldrazi, but it normally let me get those big ones out by round 5/6.
If you want a look, you can find it here: http://www.mtgvault.com/roar/decks/eldrazi/
for mana ramp, it's possible to have 30 mana on turn 6. 4 preist of titania and 2 elvish something
Kudos for the awesome build, btw I never want to play something like it... It scares me!
Interesting idea, I'd probably drop the red and go white for help with the chant... Rule question, the Descendants' reads - "...cast that card", this may sound silly but, does this actually count as casting? so Emrakuls or any of the other big cheeses abilities comes into effect?
That is correct it does count as casting
Are those then also prone to counters? the ones that can of course...
Is it an idea to splice the green with blue instead of red. That would give you the chance to search for Descendant's Path with Drift of Phantasm while Serum Visions can help you to set up the combo. I would also include Expedition Map to search for Mutavault.
I might do that, I originally did red for additonal eldrazi sources incase I don't find mutavault for descendants but I can just use changeling if I go blue
It would allow you to set up your combo faster. Blue also give you access to counterspells that can protect your descendants. Right now you're a bit vulnerable, as the deck rise and falls on your ability to draw and utilize descendants.
Why don't you put in Channel? Pay 15 life cast Emrakul from your hand turn 1.
descendants path might go very well with senseis divining top
It looks like he's trying to keep it Modern legal.
This Descendant's Path/Mutavault idea is fantastic. I think I'll use it for Dragons. :)
another idea is quicksilver amulet or unexpected results.
Unexpected Results is a good idea since the Eldrazi would still be "cast". Normally I would agree with Quicksilver Amulet, but then the Eldrazi casting triggers won't happen, which is what it looks like he's going for.
Maybe to unexpected results, i don't want to alter the (non-mega-eldrazi) mana curve
Updated it to a green/blue deck thanks to some suggestions
nice deck if the eldrazi were not so expensive, i would like to build something arround this
Well just the major ones are the really pricey, some of the lower ones like hand of emrakul and spawnsire of ulamog are relatively cheap
Since you switched your deck to a G/U you should switch the 4x Rootbound Crag to 4x Drowned Catacomb.
Yeah, I just noticed that this deck had no access to blue mana.
I needed hinterland harbor for g/u not g/b but thanks for pointing that out anyways
needs sensei's devining top
I would suggested spashing black for diabolic tutor and kill spells to deal with Jund and robots, you might want a few counterspells just to slow down storm/Tron/Jund/Junk/Burn/Melira Pod/Kiki Jiki.
Beautiful deck...I just love the way you can use so many different ways to cast the Eldrazi. They've got to be my favorite cards in Magic...
hey can you guys help my new deck? I would love to see what people think of it and any suggestions are welcome :)http://www.mtgvault.com/napoleon16/decks/goblin-swarm-deck/
I built an eldrazi budget deck for under 30$do you have suggestion while keeping it low budgethttp://www.mtgvault.com/coldbeer666/decks/eldrazi-budget/
I think "eldrazi deck" and "under 30 $" is an oxymoron.
call to the kindred lol
Spectacular idea! Isn't there any "searcher" you could use for path? Something better than serum vivions? Or you already made that attempt and this was the best choice?
call to the kindred goes through more at least
He's transmuting Drift of Phantasm....
well spoted, both of you
I can see where you are going with this, but I'm really curious to see it's effectiveness. I'd be concerned it may be a bit too gimmicky to pull off reliably.My Eldrazi deck has a few ways to put he Eldrazi on the field quickly so you may consider looking at it, to see if something can help. I'm always a fan of Sol Rings, and Quicksilver amulets to help.http://www.mtgvault.com/xxsasorixx/decks/eldrazi-domination-deck/
but sol ring is not even allowed in legacy
I like the modifications you did to the deck. I think it will work better now :)
Hi everyone, i'm new to mtg and would like some proffesional criticism on my two decks i've been working on. They're almost exactly how i built them for my regular tourney play, any help would be greatly appreciated(:
Can you send links?
http://www.mtgvault.com/vampikachu/decks/from-the-hive/ My sliver deck(:
I'd drop the Growth Spasms, and swap out the Serum Visions for Ponder. The draw before the deck fixing is kinda counter productive. I feel like ponder would give you better synergy with your deck as it digs a little deeper and draws after the fix.
Ponder isn't modern legal
This combo is actually really awesome. If it is going to be a combo deck, however, I would cut the land fetching. You only need 3 lands to make the combo go off, and that's pretty easily attainable. I'd add in 2 more Serum visions and some telling time to help you get all the pieces of your combo.
my combo is better than this.http://www.mtgvault.com/planeswalker999/decks/infinite-stuff/
No yours is more reliable but not as fun or as cool. In fact this deck could mash you as yu may turn 3 Ajani, while as a turn later you are facing down Emrakul. Have fun with that guy kicking your head in so don't be so arrogant when commenting
wow. sweet comeback. please help make my combo better than this one.
Stop being a troll and maybe people will.
Again Jace is correct. Jace is always right. Listen to the song about him.
And my Melira Pod combo would beat you but I don't tell everyone how powerful it is.
I've found the combo of using changelings and the put on the battlefield effects before. The potential is endless. here is a few more ideas i've foundhttp://www.mtgvault.com/b1gf1sh/decks/changelings-unholy-power/
.................. so that's how you get eldrazi tokens
The internet again gets them for you ;)
This is a genius idea i love it :D u could just paack your deck with any big creature cards even if they werent of your colours and pull out this combo!
This is pretty much just a better Graveborn deck, therefore it really is amazing!
I wouldn't say better, as a Graveborn decks will be slightly faster.
add some search cards for your mutavault/descendant's path, then toss in whatever giant creatures you want, and this deck works.
It really does need some black in it in my opinion!
dunno if this is a modern or legacy deck so i'll just throw in some suggestions. moment's peace instead of fog, (sensei, scroll rack, sylvian library), (quicksilver amulet, show and tell). if you're sole depending on descendant's path why not make it a set of emrakuls?
Epic... I love the deck and love the interaction between Mutavault and Descendant's Path.
http://www.mtgvault.com/princecooshie101/decks/accelifact/Ah, the fun of playing Eldrazi.........
Noob alert. Mutavault says that it becomes a 2/2 creature with all creature types. Is that all creature types on the battlefield or all creature types period?
all of them period,
i second the motion
Well if they are eldrazi, then do they have the annihilator ability? If so what is the number of discards.
No, Annihilator is an effect the same way deathtouch or flying is, not all creatures have it. Pawn of Ulamog is an Eldrazi that does not have it.
Ok thanks! I was just curious and was very unsure!
Don't call yourself I noob for not understanding, it took me a while to work it out!
Thanks Gothy!
Hi Gykx I am trying to do a standard Green/Blue deck I was woundering if you can help me on improving it. http://www.mtgvault.com/robdantay/decks/greenblue-aggro/
I have read all the posts and I'm very interested into building this deck. But I need a little more explanation on the mechanics if possible. I get the over all picture but I just want to be sure. As long as you don't mind explaining a bit more. Thanks
Call to the Kindred would be a useful addition as the whole point would be to get the eldrazi out faster. It lets you dig deeper for the same effect once you've got a changeling out eldrazi out. Not as durable as decendant's path but it gives you more chances to draw the effect you are looking for.
What about quicksilver amlut or pipers..lol Made this deck http://www.mtgvault.com/dragon77/decks/vampire-rewards/
while it isn't up to the caliber of this deck, anyone interested should check out my budget deck based upon this lovely one. http://www.mtgvault.com/musicelemental467/decks/budget-big-creatures/
sylvan scrying over the map
Things to consider: Polymorph, Mass Polymorph, Reweave, Summoning trap. Not sure if reweave is standard legal. I used to have an eldrazi deck and this is what I used. I love the deck though, keep up the good work : ).
Is it possible to play this deck in a tournament?
if its modern vintage or legacy yes
Awesome, I`m looking to play in legacy, but hey, wouldnt it be cool if you put a Elvish Piper? wouldnt it speed it up a bit? and also some Birds of Paradise? Just saying, and to not fail in the Descendant's Path, you could add a Brainstorm (could be activated through Birds), so you wont fail to put a Eldrazi.
http://www.mtgvault.com/princecooshie101/decks/standard-100-eldrazi-deck/I just want to say that it is possible - a Standard Eldrazi deck. Take a look, if you don't believe me.
I DON'T CARE, I LUV IT! <3gj mate!