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When it works

it's real fun !
i'm still playtesting it, so i will give you my opinion later, but its fast !

Thanx man ! :D
appreciate it ! ^^

From the cobra you dont get mana when you warp world, you get the mana when you search for it with wood elves and the others and that trigets the cobra.
plus you have a new set of untapped lands on the battlefield.
plus you can have eldrazi tokens on the battlefield too.

As for the oponents:
Warp World puts permanents in play so instants and sorceries will go to the bottom of the libary.
This deck plays with 5sorceries and thats all. So from the 60 cards Warp World can put 55 to the battlefield.
With the constant mana flow you can cast another Warp World and you can have MORE permanents, the opponent gets less if there were non permanent cards from the previous one...so in some way you can drain them, coz for the next they will get less permanents and so go on.

When you start to loop Warp World EVEN if the opponent have cards it doesnt matter, becaulse you set up your Barren Glory under the Oblivion Ring and BOOM.... Worldfire.
So your opponents dont have permanents, dont have lands...or anything...and we will sit on 1 life while we watch the world burn (Joker ^^). Then bam... i have ONE permanent.

Even if the opponent have something like trusk or something to get tokens..they do not have haste, so im safe till my turn when i win.

Thanx for your comment ! :D

I understand how you end the game, however, it's the middle I am talking about. Each time you Warp World, the other players will get permanents into play, too. They will get triggered come-into-play-effects and leave-play-effects. Their lands are untapped so they have mana, too, to use activated abilities of the permanents you warp into play. Maybe that's a question of your meta but in my meta this would mean getting your lands Strip Mined/Wastelanded, your mana dorks FTK'ed and your next Warp World countered by Voidmage Prodigy, just to name a few common things. Another player might even Warp into his own combo in between - let's say Pandeburst (Pandemonium plus Saproling Burst): you are dead.

when this starts the warping there is no more enemy turn...you have to be wery unlucky for that to happen
so becaulse they do not have turns they can only play instants, flash and activate abbilities.
yes they can mess with me with for example that Pandeburst combo, but not too many decks using this kint of combos and tricks.
btw...every deck has some weakpoints, and there are no exeptions.
i was thinking about Rest in Peace for example and that what if they pulse/beast within my Barren Glory before i can Ring it, or they destroy the ring when the worldfire is on stack
that kind of things happens, but thats the best in magic imo :P
there is no ultimate deck that can beat all teh others...if there would be any kind that would ruin the game.
i just love combo and tribal deck and even if they are not bulletproof, they show me some really cool trick and interractions :P

They also get their CIP-and LP-effects, even if they don't get another turn! Does nobody in your meta play guys like, dunno. Diluvian Primordial? Crater Hellion? Sundering Titan? I mean, there are hundreds of those cards and if you Warp World multiple times, you WILL run into things like this, no?

See, of course no deck is perfect and all have their weaknesses, but I consider this a thing that is pretty crucial for this deck. Again, this might be down to your meta, if everybody plays cute tribal decks, you are probably save, but even they will probably have nasty surprises for you (since these days every third card has ridiculous effects).
Also, I am not pointing at weaknesses in order to put your work down, my goal is to give food for thought so you can improve the concept.

in my meta i play agains tron, grixis control, white weenie, green devotion stomp, dirty red and mono black control mainly.
and i know that you are feeding me with creative input, so dont't worry :D
im well aware the dangers of the combo, but i chose to just enjoy the deck with all it's beauty :D
im btw a really cynic/sceptic thinker, but this deck just got me...and i always wanted to see a fun worldfire combo :P

Yeah and I remember now that you are a fierce proponent of "all or nothing" :)

Puschkin, you make a very good point.

I don't think this is meant to be competitive and he describes his meta as "tron, grixis control, white weenie, green devotion stomp, dirty red and mono black control mainly"

dirty red can kill t2.
http://www.mtgvault.com/inf3ctedra1n/decks/dirty-red/
yesterday i played some games.
1st game against UW control
my friend had an Isochron Scepter with a counter under it imprinted.
that was t6
i played an oblivion ring to the scepter, so he was forced to counter it.
then i played Warp World coz i had total of 12mana ^^
i warped 16permanents
he warped 6 (instants and sorceries go to the bottom of teh libary)
i got the Barren Glory, had an oblivion ring to hide it, i also warped 2 lotus cobra and 1 oracle and 1 wood elf and warpes 3 fetch lands
so i had a ton of mana, but coz the runescared demon i could search for worldfire
i annihaleted everything, the o-ring got exiled, so the Barren Glory was the only permanent in the battlefield.
passed, he played a mana, passed and i won. :D

the 2nd game was not so lucky.
i wanted to wait with the warp world in t5 so instead i played nest invader wood elf and a fetch
passed...and BOOM Supreme Verdict.
killed all my guys, then i was down to 8mana waited for mana for 3turns, but he beated down with Geist of Saint Traft. :(

so in avarge you can warp (and i mean loop warp) the world effectively around t5/t6 with this deck.
but i'm still testing it and i will try to keep you informed :)

Thanks for the reply. T5/T6 clock isn't too bad. But yeah. I forgot about board wipes. Damn Supreme Verdict. "can't be countered" bs....

that was my mistake, coz he just got the mana for the verdict, and i could warp at my turn, but i wasn't sure that i can loop it, so i wanted to play it in the safe way... ><
you are welcome btw ! :D
i try to answer all the comments :P
if you have any questions feel free to ask ! ^^

He doesn't care for that, either he wins or he loses to random effects when he starts warping. I said the same and suggested to run something like Stifle so he can prevent any devastating CIP-effect but OP prefers risky and flashy games over boring but safe ones :)

heavily depends how many permanents you have when you first warp.
and Puschkin is right.
first of all this is a combo thack that focuses on itself and the combo
so all teh cards in it are important to the combo and provide some survability
but that deck is focusing on the combo so --- survability < combo pieces
the longest it took to get the combo together was 4 warps btw, coz i got really unlucky and i didnt had barren glory and neither worldfire in place at the first 3warps.
at the 4th warp my opponent warped only 4permanents while i warped ~32.

basically. when you start to warp, if your opponent have a lots of instants and sorceries in their deck, they will have less and less permanents, coz Warp World only works on permanents (land, artifact, enchantment, creature, but no planeswalkers, instants, and sorceries.

Yesterday i played against my friend stompy green...he beat me up with goddraws
he played
t1 mana llanowar
t2 mana groundbreaker (6/1 trample haste GGG)
t3 mana 2x Strangleroot Geist (2/1 undying GG)
t4 mana llanowar Groundbreaker ->>> attack groundbreaker gets Aspect of Hydra
attacking llanowar 1/1 G
Strangleroot Geist 3/2 GG
Groundbreaker 6/1 trample GGG + 8/8 from aspect
i had a t4 rune-scared, but that was worthless coz that was way too much agression.

game 2 wasclose, but the groundbreaker aspect combo still got me at t5...
i had the warp in hand and had the mana too, but i needed my untap phase that i was denied coz the supreme damage

Planswalkers are permanents, just they weren't around when warp world was made.

Oracle:
10/1/2009: Taking it slowly, here's what happens when Warp World resolves:
1) Each player counts the number of permanents he or she owns.
2) Each player shuffles those permanents into his or her library.
3) Each player reveals cards from the top of his or her library equal to the number that player counted.
4) Each player puts all artifact, land, and creature cards revealed this way onto the battlefield. All of these cards enter the battlefield at the same time.
5) Each player puts all enchantment cards revealed this way onto the battlefield. An Aura put onto the battlefield this way can enchant an artifact, land, or creature that was already put onto the battlefield, but can't enchant an enchantment that's being put onto the battlefield at the same time as it. If multiple players have Auras to put onto the battlefield, the player whose turn it is announces what his or her Auras will enchant, then each other player in turn order does the same, then all enchantments (both Auras and non-Auras) enter the battlefield at the same time.
6) Each player puts all of his or her other revealed cards (instants, sorceries, planeswalkers, and Auras that can't enchant anything) on the bottom of his or her library in any order.

so planeswalkers counts as permanents but Warp World does not put them into the battlefield.

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it's true, but i wanted a Baren Glory + Worldfire deck,
and you dont actually cast anything but warp worlds tu win, and till you can cast warp world you ramp your mana and survive

heck, you can even win with a mogg fanatic under the ring, have you tried murderous redcap?it seems like a solid card to get rid of little dudes your opponent may get btween waprs soy you can lower their ammount of permanents to shuffle back, then win with it the same way you would do with the world fire

why would it be Legacy ?

no clue mana ramp a worldfire is realy it