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I have only played for about a year but in that time this deck has never lost! I worked for a while to perfect the deck and I believe it is now flawless. It has such a solid base of spells it really is a nice casual-play deck. I like to use it towards the end of the night when I really want to finish strong. So here is the magic of it. For each swamp you will double it up with a spell. The main ones are Phylactery Lich, Darksteel Relic and Dark Ritual. This helps guarantee you will get the combo going turns 1-3. You have to use sleeves that have a solid backing so for each sleeve containing a swamp, you will also have one of the above. You simply keep your hand in your lap and swap the cards out as needed. Here is the combo: Turn 1 win condition: Start with a Swamp, Darksteel Relic, Phylactery Lich and a Dark Ritual. Adjust cards as necessary. Drop the relic. Play the swamp and cast Dark Ritual. With the mana go ahead and cast the Lich. The relic helps prevent someone from naturalizing the artifact turn 2. From here start swinging. If you guys think there is a way to make it better, please comment. I think it is solid as-is, but again I have only been playing for a year or so, so obviously I am probably overlooking some good cards. Surewhynot, I think you have a lot of great decks, so your input would be greatly appreciated on what I feel is my number 1 deck. _____________________________________________________________________________________________ Okay, time to come clean. First I would like to apologize for the people who sincerely offered nice replies and defended the idiot(me) that created this post. I deserved to be rakes over the goals but people like Kazzong should be commended for their stand up behavior. I respect the MTGvault community to much to keep this going with this little experiment. I simply wanted to make a point. This site has become the stomping ground for crappy decks and poll questions that make it to the front page and I am sick of it. Unless your name is “surewhynot” or you are a member of his elite inner circle the chances of making your well thought out decks getting more than 4 likes and 2 comments is slim. I wish there was more moderation and weeding out crap like what I did above. I have never cheated in magic. I love the game as is and love to find good ideas and helpful info from this site. What is really sad is I was bored on Friday and decided to bet with a buddy of mine that I could make the front page. That is how dumb this has become. I have created some awesome decks with great combos and really neat ideas and they never got more than a like or two. People post their decks to try and get feedback from good players and instead of feedback they get bashed by comments telling they are losers for spamming their decks. When I click on these most of them are sincerely looking for help. They aren’t trying to get on the front page like they are usually accused of. All you have to do to accomplish that is troll for an hour or 2. Don’t like this deck anymore, don’t feel the need to comment, just change the way you act on this potentially awesome site. Let posts like this die and start using this site to help others and stop liking decks just because they are your friends. Like them and comment on them because they are worth liking and commenting.
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You're a moron....you can only have 4 of each card in your deck. I hope your friends find out and beat your do naughty things to you!!
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As I said, this is for casual play. The 4 card rule only applies to tournament rules and other formats. Lay off the name calling - is that necessary?
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The 4 of a kind rule is pretty much gospel in even the most casual play groups that I've ever seen. Its not just a tournament rule, its one of the core rules of magic deck creation, along with the 60 card minimum deck size. You are certainly free to make up your own casual game with your friends using magic cards, but nobody else will consider that to be Magic. Even after completely disregarding the game's rules this deck is still pretty weak. Honestly if this is killing all of your friends they probably have some very unfocused decks with lots of single cards. If that were me when I was first starting out I'd be pretty annoyed with you. I'd certainly expect you would at least make your friends aware of what is in the deck before playing it. All that aside, you are admitting to just outright blatantly cheating as well? Why do you even play the game if you are just going to switch out the cards? If anyone tried this on me I'd refuse to play with them ever again. Playing against yourself is going to end up pretty lonely. The sad thing is that you are basically breaking every rule in the game and still doing it so badly that most good decks could beat you easily.
screw lands I am run 10 toliran academy and 20 black lotus. Cause casual has no ban list or legendary rule. Just cause there are no rules dosent mean there arn't regulations.
I HOPE I PLAY YOU IN CASUAL AND ILL RUN 60 CHANCELOR OF THE DROSS AND AUTO WIN EVERY TIME FOR LESS MONEY
Hey guys let him play how he wants in casual bc It truly is what you make it. The game is still magic just with a bit of adjustment for him and his friends to play and enjoy themselves which is what the game was made for.
actually, the game was made by richard garfield who at the time was a mythology teacher, to teach his students mythology in a fun way. just sayin.
Casual play where you admittedly are cheating to win a game, good one sugar t*ts. You're probably one of those MORONS that cry in group games with his buddies when you think they're picking on you. I can read you like a book you noob.
What the hell? Dude you are just mean. Most of my decks suck, this one is almost perfect! If you don't like it go somewhere else. I am a guy by the way, I don't have tits.
Hey JuiceTR if you are only going to post on here and be a dick no one will like you.
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I can hear you from here mouth breather, thus the sugar t*ts comment.
Whatever! Anyone with constructive critisism or comments?
Yes, see my comment below.
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*criticism
dude grow up. and start playin rite. btw nice combo but try and put it in a playable deck u stupid cheat
Before this, the game I always played munchkin with my buddies and the general rule is you can cheat as long as you don't get caught. I think this would be a viable deck if I took out the extras and didn't double sleeve. Obviously, but I wanted to post it the way I play it.
The 4x card rule is not just for tournament play. It is a basic rule of the game casual play or not.
I dont understand why you would post this, or why it has any likes, not trying to be a dick, but of course everyone is giving you crap. Your cheating! You should make a legal version of this deck cause its a cool idea, and put that link in the description.
We all play by some set of rules. Some rules more legal than others. Lay off the guy.
Check out my Illusion deck. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=350095
It is a basic rule of how to play matic the gathering is that u can only have 4 of each card. But thus deck can still be good without that i think. Add in cards like demonic and vampiric tutor, and cut all cards except your basic lands down to 4, and it will still work
And also, u are actually outright cheating. How is the game fun when u can never be mana screwed and still have s hand full of spells. U really need to startnplaying how the game is actually played. This isnt even a deck of magic because you are not playing by the rules of magic. So if all your friends play a game where u do this, thats fine, but u probably shouldnt post this deck because your not actually playing magic
hax.
Do you even know how to play magic? This is laughable in itself, but the fact that it made it to upcoming decks is frankly disgusting. How could it possibly be fun to "win" when you are outright cheating? If all of that wasn't enough, it's just a bad deck. Decks should have close to 60 cards to operate efficiently, have you looked at your mana curve? 8 cards for one mana, then EVERYTHING else is three or more. A typical standard deck could beat this, and a legacy deck would simply laugh at it. Don't post on this site until you learn to play the game, stop wasting the time of real wizards.
hey, how about instead of hearing this guy down, help him turn this into a viable deck, and help him as a player/deck builder? wouldn't you rather help someone get better at the game than push them away from it? that is kind of the point of this site and forum right?
He needs to get some morals first, he clearly has no problem with cheating, which i refuse to accept, regardless of his actual deck making ability. As far as the deck goes, itd be ok if he simply trimmed everything to the 4x rule and added two swamps.
I know that, but you attract more flies with honey than vinegar, so being nice will help him more than being rude will in my opinion. Yes I understand that he shouldn't cheat.
Yeah, the lich is on of my favorite creatures in magic. I do appreciate the effort but cheating is lame blah blah blah. I bet none of your friends play control or have even heard of dismember. Do they get starstruck mythic rares? Lots of ravenous demons, and lord of the pits? Someone take away this guys wand!
who cares if he hasn't heard of dismember... Take away your wand so you will stop hitting yourself in the face with.
Hahaha, (moot point ahead.. I realize the deck was a social experiment) Defending the intentional rule breaking, awesome. The point that I was implying is that; not only was the percieved player knowingly cheating, but was also bragging about taking advantage of his obviously oblivious meta. OK, ok....how about this: Play by the rules. Structure is there so that an even playing field makes for a fair and (hopefully) competitive, and fun game. forget the lichs, play 60 chancellor of the dross like the next guy says.
no rule of 4? try this deck out: 60x Chancellor of the Spires sideboard needs some work, but i'm thinking: 15x Chancellor of the Spires
No rule of 4 eh? Great. Check this deck out. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=351630
that costs a lot of money
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How about 60 chancellor of the dross. I never lose with that!!!!!!!! The deck is perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
first first of all i want to day that this wall of text is not a rant. Just had a lot to say. :) Ok, so. I have always wanted to see a deck make good use of phylactery lich. Very fool combo. The only problem with this deck is that it doesn't have enough diversity. What are you going to do against exile, or lockdown and damage prevention? The combo you have here is decent, but shallow. You need to cut down on card amounts, and increase the card types, to anticipate more types of threats. That will allow your deck to actually be legal and make it stronger. While I do agree with most of the other posters here, that this deck should not be on the front page, I disagree that it should be here on this site. The site is for people to post ideas and improve them. So, the question here is how to improve, right? My advice: look at other people's decks and see what they have to offer. Join the forum and ask questions about solid deck building. Surewhynot is great to start with, but he isn't on here all the time, so ask other people as well. I myself have only been playing for a little over 2 years, and haven't ever done anything bigger than casual play, but i have seen and played some very powerful decks in casual. Yes i have played with some "cheating" decks, but in all honesty I ha e found that playing by the rules is way more fun. Oh, munchkin is way fun too, but it is a very different beast than magic. Most magic players have a little more strict opinion on the rules. The exception of this being in casual play, with banned and restricted lists. But, like it has been mentioned above, basically, the one golden rule that you should never break is the 4 card limit. (with the exception of basic lands and relentless rats.) Anyways, welcome to the community here, and i look forward to helping you become a better player and deck builder of you'll let me. :)
Even for casual play the rule of 4 should always respected to keep the plays reasonable. At this point, it's more about respecting other players than making good decks...
If it were legal, I would like it. It's a really good combo, and I respect that an inexperienced player found it, but you're using it the wrong way. Obey the 4 card rule, and maybe throw in some priest of gix for free creature drops or diabolic tutors for your precious swamps, and it'll be much better.
even though you say its casual the 4 card rule applies even in our group where we allow some proxies
It's stuff like this that makes me wish that this site wouldn't give automatic "likes" for just posting in it. That being said. There are a few things that need to be adjusted to this deck to make it both legal and more effective. First, your deck has no removal spells. Cards that will help you kill annoying creatures. Say your friend goes first and plays an arbor elf. You get your combo out on your first turn. His second turn he plays a predator ooze which will give him an indestructible creature that continues to grow bigger and bigger. Black has a great kill spell that can even get rid of indestructible creatures, Tragic Slip. On it's own it can kill an early predator ooze, combined with a second kill spell or sacrificing one of your own creatures, it can kill almost anything on the table for 1 black mana. Some other options are of course the classic doom blade or go for the throat. Second, you have no contingency plan. You have one way to win with this deck only. So you get your combo out on your first turn. What do you do if that player plays steel sabotage to return the darksteel relic to your hand which will make you sacrifice your lich? But, that's not all this person had planned for you and throws out surgical extraction on the lich in your graveyard making you remove all copies of the card from your deck and hand. What you'll have left is the bare bones of a zombie lord deck and a bunch of copies of pointless darksteel relics. You should build upon the zombie theme you got going here. Here's where we need to trim this deck up and make it something to play and play against. Removal list: -2 Strata Scythe -4 Darksteel Relic -4 Bog Witch -1 Lord of the Undead -2 Death Barons -6 Phylactery Lich -1 Cemetery Reaper -6 Zombify -4 Dark Ritual Removing these cards will help you trim this deck up and get down to the 4 card limit rule everybody has been so kind to mention to you. This removes 30 cards from this deck. If you are running this deck as you say you are, with a spell behind each of your swamps, then your deck would actually appear to be 58 cards and not the 60 minimum. So! Cutting this down to a 60 card deck will leave us with 10 cards to play around with, and that's only if you actually go with 4 copies of the cards that were left. I removed Bog Witch and Zombify from the list completely since they basically copy things that other cards are doing but less efficiently (Dark Ritual, Lord of the Undead). With this basic trimming you can fit in 4 Undead Warchiefs, 4 Grave Crawlers, and 4 of a removal spell of your choice (if you cut the swamps back to 20). I personally would go further by eliminating Strata Scythe in exchange for Bladed Pinions and Darksteel Axes. Darksteel Axe will give you another indestructible artifact for your lich and give him something he can pick up and swing. I hope some of this will help. P.S. Cheating isn't the same as a win, otherwise I should just read your name as I_cheat_ALL_the_time!, and who really wants to play with that guy?
I'm going to agree with^ the guy above me most players who've played for a while can take care of a simple indesctruble with an arrest, pacifism, recumbant bliss, mental misstep ( to cancel dark ritual) path to exile and if you want a stupid turn one combo to cheat into hand (my friends joke around and do this before we shuffle occasionally) use Phage the untouchable 1 swamp 4 dark rituals and lightning grieves actual turn one win
dude...... this is legal in no format, including casual.
When you are playing with friends who don't care there is no legality. lay off.
How come this deck gets so many likes..
No one likes it its just that the deck has soo many comments in face he just gained 3 likes by me replying to you see?
This is so random^^ Check my deck and comment about it, i really need all the help i can get from the community Here's the link : http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=351250
Stop! Stop it!!!
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Another thing thats kind of annoying about this is that I've made 3 decks on here that I've spent a lot of time thinking about, and none have any likes or comments, yet this gets 100 likes... I r confuzd
As am I. I too, am confused.
I think that people like and comment on what they like or what interests them.
I think it's due to the way the like system is created. I make an awesome deck with nothing but Storm Crow and Bone Saw. Some Troll comes on and calls me a little bitch and tells me to go back to noob school. Fifty people come on and like his comment and presto I have fifty likes for my deck. Suddenly I'm on the front page despite everyone hating my deck
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Lets see if my legacy myr deck can get as many likes as this deck http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=350975
10 swords to plowshare will deal with your lich :p
again, not actually helpful. wouldn't you rather help this guy become a better deck builder and post good stuff than dog him for posting new player status stuff? What was your first deck like? I remember mine, and it was garbage, and I thought it was great. I thought it was an unstoppable force of nature until I met with some cards like... oh, cancel. Or doom blade. Or path to exile. And that was before I had even heard of cards like force of will, or other legacy power cards that royally screw people over, and combos that allow your opponant to win before their first turn. what were your deck building skill like? and what about your knowledge of the rules and regulations? again, I understand that disregarding them and not knowing them is different, but if no one had told you that you couldn't put out more than a single land, and other similar rules, what would your reaction be if you played like that for a lengthy amount of time and then someone told you that you were playing comepletely wrong and should not ever perticipate in something that could help you get better? I would not come back, and probably keep playing the way that I was, because I had been treated like crap. again, not defending the status of the deck, nor the cheating. but I am saying that this community has a chance to try and change someone's playing habits for the better, (and improve their deck building skills tremendously), and has decided to shoot themselves in the foot instead by treating him/her like crap when they were expecting a positive reply. It looks to me like I am jsut about the only one who posted something that was actually trying to help instead of just insult. way to uphold the standards of conduct and the whole point and purpose of this site. :) Unless I am wrong, the point of this site is to help people understand the game better and be better players/deck-builders. putting people down for what they post, the way that people have been doing here, is the exact opposite of that. it doesn't educate about the rules and regulations, and it doesn't help them get any better at following them.
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I thought I was helping him. On that note, I'd be happy to take a look at any decks people want me to.
yes, I know I said I was almost the only one. I know that you were trying to help him out as well. but sadly that makes 2 out of how many posters? :(
3... Well, at least one of my posts was....lol
@Kazzong - no offense man, but im just having fun here like "playing his game" and all but if this is how he really plays then IMO i dont think it would really pose any damage to the community and we have any right to go against it... sure we can criticize but im already seeing a very long list of criticisms and i think he will soon realize that what he is doing is entirely wrong and will learn from it if he really wants to seriously play this game... and as a game itself isnt its main purpose is to create fun for the player? i think its serving its purpose very well... all im saying is lets not take it too seriously here... we dont even know how old this guys is for all we know he's only a 13 yr older who just happens to like the drawings in the cards and thought its cool (to the OP, i dont really think your a 13 yr old lol) again not saying your incorrect, im actually moved by your desire to help but sometimes there people who dont want to be helped, wont listen, and just wants to do whatever the hell they want to do... so best leave them to their own devices...
You need to re do this i agree with a lot of peole cheating just isnt cool bro your making the undead look bad... We really are not that bad.... We don't cheat man..... *Signed very unpleased lich lord......
I'm going to pile on the band wagon and add a little to this...frankly...that's not a real deck. If all you're doing is customizing your hand to whatever you want, then it's cheating. Hell if I wanted to do that with my extirpate deck, I could set it up with 3 chancellors of the spires, 2 dark rituals, a swamp and a haunting echoes and watch my opponent cry when I rip apart their deck on my first turn...but that would be mean, and cheating. Take your time to build an actual deck, and play with actual rules, and not nerd rage when someone runs you over with a 100/100 taunting elf with trample and infect. (just an example) Rules make the game fun. If you want to find loop holes, or exceptions to the rule that break the universe, fantastic, go for it. But otherwise leave the cheating out of the game.
He's right about the lopholes for example dont wanna just four of a card? theres a beautiful card called relentless rats you can run 60 of them in a deck if you want. the best decks are almost always built around uninteded loops and combos so find a real one and go for it
The reason it has 80 cards is so that with the ones that are doubled up, it still appears to have 60ish separate sleeves or cards. This allows for less chance of being discovered. Sure the thickness may be similar, but when you end up only having around 40ish sleeves, people tend to notice.
I gotta ask though, why cheat? in all honesty, playing by the rules is way more fun. Unless of course, as stated somewhere above, you have made up your own varient. either way, this deck really could be improved. in fact, making it legal would make it a stronger deck in general, because you would be able to give it more diversity than it has and you would be able to deal with more situations better. so not only would it win in your circle of friends, but also against more serious players. In all honesty if this beats your friends decks every time, then most normal decks would thrash them in a normal game. someone stated above that even standard decks wouldn't have a hard time with this, and legacy decks, (the ones that can cost up to several grand to build) would laugh at it. this is true. But if I am correct, you posted this deck for comments nd critisms on how it could be improved, right? so, the comments that have been given, while not exactly nice, are generally true. This deck has a ton of real game potential if you would legalize it. sure, you would't be garunteed a "win" against your friends anymore, but that tests your skill as a player and forces you to get better and more creative and flexible in your play style. All in all, not a bad thing. In all honesty, my favourite game that I have played so far (which was almost 2 years ago now, and still has not been topped) was a game that I lost. it started out as a 4 way game, and it got down to me and another guy. he was playing a friend's 5 color deck, very powerful. I was playing what amounts to a newbie spot removal deck. (still have it. love that deck.) I had blown up the board with planar cleansing, and kept out a twilight shepard, because of persist, and he responded by playing conflux and grabbing 5 cards from his library. I drew a diabolic tutor and grabbed what I thought was going to be the game winning card... I attacked, and he blocked. I played my card to try and tap his creature, thus making it unable to block, and he played holy day and prevented the damage. he then swung in for 5 with his magistar sphinx, and took out my angel, and then ended the game next turn. That game lasted for over 2 hours. most of it was me and him going back and forth. Did I win? no. Was it a blast because I had been creative in how I held my own? absolutely. That, in my opinion, is what makes the game fun. Sure, it is fun to goof around and cheat sometimes, if the whole group is playing by modified rules, but a regular game is way moer fun I think. So, like I asked before, what is fun about cheating? if you want to get creative in your deck biulding there are so many better ways to do it than that. There is an almost limitless amount of possiblities for deck building in magic. and if you want to get crazy, look into the unglued or unhinged sets.
I have come to a conclusion. Either you are a troll or a fool. This deck is thoroughly pathetic and since you seem to be admitting to cheating, I can't see why anyone would support this catastrophe. However it may seem stupid for me to continue commenting, I personally find it entertaining how many people have been helping get this deck to the front page, despite their hatred towards you and your "flawless" deck. I think it's interesting how you are trying to get surewhynot to post here. You also seemed to have created an account called "I win ALL the time!" just to create a bogus deck like this one, that although it may win every game it plays, is not a real deck. So I am going to assume you are a troll.
Okay, time to come clean. First I would like to apologize for the people who sincerely offered nice replies and defended the idiot(me) that created this post. I deserved to be rakes over the goals but people like Kazzong should be commended for their stand up behavior. I respect the MTGvault community to much to keep this going with this little experiment. I simply wanted to make a point. This site has become the stomping ground for crappy decks and poll questions that make it to the front page and I am sick of it. Unless your name is “surewhynot” or you are a member of his elite inner circle the chances of making your well thought out decks getting more than 4 likes and 2 comments is slim. I wish there was more moderation and weeding out crap like what I did above. I have never cheated in magic. I love the game as is and love to find good ideas and helpful info from this site. What is really sad is I was bored on Friday and decided to bet with a buddy of mine that I could make the front page. That is how dumb this has become. I have created some awesome decks with great combos and really neat ideas and they never got more than a like or two. People post their decks to try and get feedback from good players and instead of feedback they get bashed by comments telling they are losers for spamming their decks. When I click on these most of them are sincerely looking for help. They aren’t trying to get on the front page like they are usually accused of. All you have to do to accomplish that is troll for an hour or 2. Don’t like this deck anymore, don’t feel the need to comment, just change the way you act on this potentially awesome site. Let posts like this die and start using this site to help others and stop liking decks just because they are your friends. Like them and comment on them because they are worth liking and commenting.
This comment should get as many likes as this deck. Oh, and thanks for coming clean.
I think a good solution to this would be to re-create the good ol' advertisement post where people can post links to their own decks. This would be good because it allows people to sort of re-post their old deck from long ago. I understand the point of this post now, but I do have one question. What is your original username? Also, I don't understand why so many people beat on surewhynot. He's just kind of good at building decks. It's not like hes some kind of tyrant who tries to run the site or something!
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=351601
Put your lame casual decks on some other site. I don't know why this is on the front page this is the lamest Piece of S*** deck I've ever seen.
Clearly you didn't read the posts. Read the last one by builder, I Win All the Time.
The comment was also put in the deck description.
Hey Kazzong, I owe you a personal apology, you spent a lot of time on those posts and that is why I came clean as soon as I did. I felt bad. The intent was certainly not discourage anyone from posting. If there was a way to private message on this site that would be great :-)
no apology needed. Oh, and the forums have a PM system set up. Also, you said that you had some other decks. Are you planning on posting them at all? I would be interested in looking at them. :)
I would be interested in looking at them as well.
As would I. I'm not incredibly experienced, but I've got a year or two of advice to offer. I can especially help with current standard decks, if you play standard. I'm also much newer to the site than obviously experienced people like kazzong, but I'd be glad to help if you post your legitimate decks.
I am not very experienced either. I started playing last November shortly before Thanksgiving and I joined this site today. Like you I am only up on standard format, so in that aspect I have a little advice.
Check out this deck if you get a chance http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=351584
For all you people that cant realize, This deck is effin awsome!!! Who would of thought using more then 4 of a kind. Duuhh Winning Props to you man
I respect this post a lot. I love this site don't get me wrong, but most decks go by unnoticed and I know we put a lot of time into them. The whole reason I joined is to be able to picture how the deck could work and get creative criticism before dropping $200 on a deck that might turn out to be shit you know.
True, true.
well time to comment here i guess. for one good ya came clean on the matter cause that is pretty lame if ya cheat. no honor there. for two believer it not guys, this deck has givin me a massive brain storm of ideas that actually can abuse the lich easily. i have to put it all in perspective but its all kinda in my brain atm. i win all the time, post some of the real decks u have or some u r wanting to make ill take a look when i can. i dont mind helpin ppl out its what this site is here for. ill help out anyone idc, and anyone here is free to check out some of the decks i have. not all r good but they can be fun. good luck.
This deck on the front page with over 250 likes proves that this site has officially gone to hell.
And here I am with making like 3 decks a day in average and get no comments and no likes.. and those decks are at least legal and not too shabby imo.. Guess it's time to move to a community that actually gives some feedback :/
So... Clearly neither you , nor FourBranches actually read the intro. Also, if you want to get your decks looked at then make good comments on others, and ask for advice , then post a link. Do it with 20 decks and I bet tgat you will get some feedback.
Another lesson to learn - don't post just to post....READ THE POST FIRST.....Know what you are replying too. Just trying to enhance the experience for the folks who love this site. It certainly wasn't my intent to push people away.
I Read the post, I'm not sure what you're getting at (did I miss something?) I do make comments on a lot of decks, I try to give my input as much as possible and usually ask for feedback on some of my own decks in return. The feedback is still slim, much too slim. I have a couple of decks that back when I started building here got good feedback, even made it to the front page, but it seems since then people just cba to give feedback anymore.. or maybe I just don't hound people enough and linkspam other decks.. I dunno, I just think it's too bad because I love building a bit quirky decks, and sometimes they can even become good with some good feedback from more experienced players.
greatest troll ever!!!! EPIC!!!!
Thanks guys, First and last time I am trolling. I will repost some of my decks on this account seeing as I have sparked some interest :-)
Here's one - adding more through-out the day http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=351940
just read your repost...not bad I give you a high five.. please look through my decks I could use the help
I could use some help with mine as well.
Im some what new to this site as well, the point made on this deck is great. I have made a few decks one of them i think is great but as commented its never even been looked at let alone a comment. As for Kazzong, this is the only person at all to even look at one of my decks and even more so took the time to comment back and forth with me about it which was a big help with 2 decks of mine so that being said this by far is the best display ive seen on this site so far i am very glad that Kazzong was able to check out this deck so that people could see what this site is supposed to be about. I check out decks everytime im on here for 2 reasons one to see if there is something new to help my game and also to help someone else if i can. So, I want to commend i win all the time..... As well as Kazzong....... Thank You
Could people reading this comment on this deck? I am doing a test but the only way to complete it is with everyone's help. thanks. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=352188
every single one of you all just got trolled by this dude. my hero.
************* JUST SO EVERY ONE KNOWS ONLY ABOUT 4 PEOPLE LIKED THIS DECK. EVERY TIME SOME ONE COMMENTS THIS DECK GETS 3 LIKES! I DONT KNOW WHY BUT THATS JUST HOW IT IS. JUST THOUGHT EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW THAT BECAUSE THIS IS TRUE FOR MOST OF THESE DECKS THAT HIT 300s INCLUDING SOME OF SUREWHYNOT'S. NO ONE LIKES THIS THEY JUST KEEP TELLING YOU HOW THEY DONT AND IT STARTS TO LOOK LIKE THEY LIKE IT. *********************************************
Take all of the comments not including the deck owners (his does NOT count) and times that number by 3. Then subtract from the total number of likes. That will tell you how many people liked your deck. This is was the test that I did was about. Link above.
Well played sir, well played. I've addressed these issues before but obviously not everybody has seen my posts. First, we know the system is flawed. The number of likes against a deck is a combination of likes, comments and comment likes (sorry) abd yes, we're trying to fix it. We're currently re-writing the site from scratch, the original purpose of this site was to store your decks for future reference. I expanded this to linking them out to friends, the comment system was then added and finally, the likes, along with the homepage switch to show "top decks". My goal for all of this was to try and help people get feedback and help with their decks. The site is too busy for it's own good and we get a huge amount of new decks posted every day from people all trying to get the same thing, unfortunately there are more people trying to get help than people willing to give it. In v3, aside from streamlining the deck building process, which, afterall, is what this site is all about, we're trying to remove the struggle to get to the homepage and make our focus rewarding people for helping others. We'll be introducing a rep system, canning the homepage in it's current form and making it a lot easier for people to find the decks they actually want to see and help with. We will also be splitting likes out from the fake likes so when you see "x likes" it will actually mean "x likes". We want the same thing everybody wants, a nice, friendly community that is willing to help others because they KNOW that they will be helped in return and I will keep working at it until we get there. We're working on it, just give us time!
Wow Gary, I certainly appreciate you taking the time to explain. I love this site and it's intended use and I am happy to see that you guys are working out some of the flaws. I love this game, I enjoy meeting new players in the magic community, I love tools like MTGvault and look forward to the changes. Thanks again for taking the time to respond. It is appreciated.
Well... I've seen most of the conversation here & the fact is: It's true, that the builder doesn't know the basic rules yet it seems, but that's not a reason for calling him an "idiot" & stuff... I can't C how this deck couldn't lose... I know quite a few decks that would wipe it out in a sec (legal decks) :) ...
Did you read it? I think you missed the point bro. I could care less if this would be good or not, I was just trying to proove a point. I agree with you though. I have much better decks and I know many decks that can beat this. I just tried to use an obscure combo that would catch peoples attention to get lots of eyes on this. It worked for what I wanted it to do. The combo isn't even mine - credit goes to Bishop084, he never posts his decks but you guys should take a look. One of the best deck builders I have ever had the pleasure of meeting.
Well, duh it always wins. You have more than 4 of each card! I play casual, and I STILL play with tournament rules, and I bet one of my decks could beat you easily. BTW what would happen if somebody dropped a nevermore?
Lol I read the description after words and I appologize. I thought this was a deck you were going to take to FNM (lol). I would like it if people would help me out with my deck. I've only bean playing about a year, too, and I want to have a good deck ready for when I go to FNM. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=333549
I can't believe its been almost 2 years since this was posted. Seems like it was only yesterday...