Aristocrat Format Challenge

I am still in the process of this deck.

As you can see, it is focused on doing damage and gaining life.

ok, I think that I can come up with something for this. :)

Crap...is he?
Okay, okay.
Revamp. Thanks!

I need to follow my own rules, huh?
Okay. Obzedat is out, and Divinity of Pride is in.
Honestly, he is probably a better card anyways!
He will most likely be a 8/8 flying creature with lifelink.
Plus he triggers Nightsky Mimic.

There is another Obzedat that is rare.

No...actually, I think the Divinity of Pride works nice!

Yeah Divinity seems to work a lot better

Hey I created a deck around this, check it out here

http://www.mtgvault.com/drogskolreaver/decks/aristocrat-challenge/

Commented on it. Looks damn solid!
Will make a list of decks/names that accepted the challenge.
Will be in the Deck Description.

Here is the link. Hope it is okay.
http://www.mtgvault.com/northernwarlord/decks/budget-decks-aristocrat-beast/

Thank you, Northy!
Checked it out, and it looks really good.
Adding your name to the list of decks!!!!!

I considered Batwing Brume, for sure!
And also considered Nighthawk. He has so many abilities, Mtg makers almost ran out of space on the card!
Him not being black AND white made me not choose him.
Sign in Blood is double black. Check out Night's Whisper. It does the same thing, but it is 1 black and 1 colorless. The one colorless is easier to cast.

Thanks for the suggestions!!!
If you take up the challenge, please be sure to post it here.

but sign in blood is common, you could use something better on the "uncommon slot" , also unmake is much better than murder since you exile and is 3x white OR black , very useful

Will consider Sign in Blood for now.
The double black mana, shouldn't be a problem, huh...since I won't be playing it until the 4th or 5th turn anyways.

Unmake is DEFINITELY in! It triggers Mimic!
Good call!

Never, fool!
Two rare Goblins...umm, Siege or Krenko? Aren't they rare?
I will take a look at it, and post it!

Thanks!

got another one! http://www.mtgvault.com/superkeeper/decks/aristrocatbeasts/

Beasts versus Goblin.
Interesting matchup! Who do you think would win?
Added to the list!

Standard, very neat.
Not sure if any of the other people's decks have been Standard.
Will definitely check it out and add it to the list!

Thanks!

Checked it out, nice!
I did notice your regular version was much stronger.
I think that just shows that Aristocrat brings down the power of decks...which isn't necessarily a bad thing! Even more so, I would say, every deck that has been posted has been pretty balanced compared to each other.
I am really liking the results, so far!

You are added to the list, friend!
Thanks.

Added it to the list.
Prowess, it is new.
As suggested, I think you could make the deck better by decreasing the creatures and increasing instant/sorcery cards.

I appreciate your participation!

i do not know.

No, no price restrictions.
If you want your 2 rares to be:
1 Black Lotus
1 Ancestral Recall

Then go for it! :)

Alright just wanted to clarify.

sounds like a challenge...the most expensive aristocrat deck ever :)

Force of Will is uncommon, and expensive as hell.
Use him too!!!!

Lots of those are new cards to me!
And it is a new mechanic to me as well.
I need to get caught up with Magic Cards, apparently!

Any deck that focuses on unblockable creatures, is aggravating to play against!
It is added to the list.

Well, I don't have the actual cards, and I don't have anyone to play with unfortunately.

I am in the same boat.
I play the same guy, and his same damn deck, about once every 2 months.

So...only about 6 times a year do I get to play Magic.
And he stopped playing, so when I play him...it is against the same deck over and over!!

Question Jessie. If a card once was of one rarity, and was later reprinted, do you base your amount of the card in the deck based on the most recent rarity, or its original rarity?

That is up for debate :)

Thank you.
I responded to it.
I wonder how this Sliver deck would do against the Elf deck!?

http://www.mtgvault.com/bfrick2/decks/get-a-aristocratic-life/

Thanks for continuing the cause!!!
Got yourself a like, and posted to this deck.

Good job!

Rogues, Humans, Slivers, Elves, Soldiers, the list is getting large.
Good stuff!

You can create all that you want!

I just seen the article:

http://www.cardshark.com/Articles/Magic-the-Gathering/Brock-Siems/Advent-of-An-Aristocrat-%E2%80%9COfficial%E2%80%9D-Rules-for-a-New-Magic-Format/View-Article/4435?ref=facebook

And thought about trying it out. :)

Presenting deck #2! Aristocrat Abzan!
http://www.mtgvault.com/legendaryhero7/decks/budget-aristocrat-abzan/
Again, loving the Khans of Tarkir cards.

I like best, that they brought back Morph.
That, and Clever Impersonator, he rocks!

And your second deck is added to the list.
You should battle them, and see which one wins!

One more question Jessie. Say someone's already done a deck type, like a Goblin deck for the challenge. Can others still make Goblin decks, or do they need to try and find new ideas?

Sorry, yes, you can redo other people's theme.

Graft, an interesting mechanic.
Added to the list.
Good job!
I love all the draw cards.

You and moneyman671 both made Exalted decks!!
Who knew they were so popular?!

Your deck is added to the list.

Thanks for taking up the challenge!
I checked it out.

It is added to the list!

Check out my exalted aristocrat!:)

Yep, added it.
Exalted, I suck at those decks!

Trickster, huh!?
Got to go against the system, and fight the man?!
Can't just go with the rules?!

Joking aside, yes!
Like Pauper and the other Formats, if a card was originally printed as an uncommon, and went to a rare...you can use it as an uncommon in the Format

Challenge. Likewise, if there was a Planeswalker that was originally a rare and went to mythic...he is legal to use!!!

Good job catching that!

And I would like to see your attempt.
You, from what I have heard, you like to play tournaments.
I would like to see how you would go about it :)

Here's the list of Aristocrat Planeswalkers then:
- Ajani Goldmane
- Jace Beleren
- Liliana Vess
- Chandra Nalaar
- Garruk Wildspeaker

Thanks, my man.
I will add it to the rule list, and kindly give you credit for finding them :)

I would LIKE to play in tournaments
There have been a few Leagues at my school, but not really any tournaments. I also don't have the money to make a deck that is tournament worthy.... yet

How bout that 2$ troll deck of Northy's ... treasure hunt and zombie infestation? You won't get far, but ypu will beat some $200 dollar decks with just ... $2.

Nice tournament deck. Now add about $200 dollars worth of dual lands in, then you're set.

He has like 700 decks, post the link! Lol

Actually very interested in what the mill deck will look like!
I just made my first mill deck too
Cost 2,000 dollars! Insane, right?!
Will never afford that in real life.

Will add it to the list, and check it out.

http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/2000-mill-deck/

$2000? Wow! I gotta go to work soon, but I will check it out tonight.

Was waiting on an artifact deck to be attempted.
Will check it out and add it to the list.

I sorta like the name.
I just made a Golem deck too!!!
Where I play Splicer Golems, then play Turn to Mist/Cloudshift/Ghostly Flicker to keep bouncing them in and out of play...triggering more 3/3 creatures.
It gets crazy!!

http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/splice-and-dice/

A thing of beauty.

Maybe it is because I am egotistical, and your deck is a mirror match of my deck, but it is one of my favorites, so far.

Damn good deck!

Added to the list.

Lol ... I still think that boros commando is a tad awkward with all the damage dealing spells being only 1 or 2 CMC. Any suggestions?

Also ... mirro entity + boros charm = 8 damage to the face turn 3.

Blaze commando?
Would have to look over it again.
But with first glance, there were not any cards that popped out to me as being weak in the deck.

I didn't say weak ... I said awkward. Keeping a lightning bolt or Boros charm in hand til turn 6 or 7 so you can trigger his ability is difficult ... but the combo with balefire liege is irresistible. Cast lightning helix, then cast another helix (thanks to Mr. Balefire), drop two 3/3 soldier tokens with haste onto the field, then make your mimic a 4/2 first strike.

Ahh...combos, when they work, they make you smile.
:)

... and make your opponent cry ...


You need a gravatar picture dude.

A picture?
Hmm, yeah, most likely.

What do Jace, The Mind Sculptor and a trampoline have in common?

Oh ... and Jessie also has this in common with those two ...

I hear you! :)

They all like bounce!

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Ah thank you very much!

I thought about doing the simic version of this deck, then i stumbled across graft and just went that route.

http://www.mtgvault.com/dharr16/decks/aristocrat-format-challenge/

Wow, your second deck. Thanks for making another one.
I like this one better, blue and green together rocks!!

I suggest Temporal Spring.
One of my favorite cards.
Good stuff.

Looking at it now.
Thanks for tagging along!
Will post it to the Deck Description.

For those interested, here's another one....

http://www.mtgvault.com/pain42/decks/dragon-food-aristocrat/

"No Goblins were hurt in making this deck."

Yeah, right!

Dragons just love to eat Goblins. You'd think they be tough and bony.

Added to the list.

Some very nice cards, in that deck, sir!
Added to the list.

... and a myr battleshpere to shove those creatures down our throats, right?

Nope, but he has about everything else! Mana ramp, flying, regeneration, vigilance, pump up, counters, and more. Numerous creatures.

Added to the list!

Lol, that's something I have to see!

I ran out of rares, so I was unable to use a battlesphere :(

I agree. Ironically enough, that's why I copied the basis in red/white!

All of the Mimics rock!

And Nice catch, milfstink, the deck is designed around the idea of him always being a 4/4 flyer.

Here is some pretty math for you!
Nightsky Mimic + Edge of the Divinity + Deathbringer Liege = 9/9 flying Mimic.

Here's some math for you: Brave the Elements + Boros Charm + Battlegate Mimic = 12 unblockable damage turn 3.

Err ... just 8.

Yes, indeed. Would be a good game.
My Soul Link/Faultless could wreck havoc on you, except for you being unblockable.
Plus all of your direct damage...it would be a very good game :)

Rats ... Jessie, this match must indeed be played out on the fields of honor and justice. Though I cannot challenge you to a match (let's face it, you live in the middle of freaking nowhere) I shall conduct this match with a suitable champion to represent your interests.

I trust you to find a trusted champion, you are a Knight, after all!

Lol ... the gauntlet has been thrown down. Let nothing stop the joust yet!

Haha!! Way to get into character, gentlemen! Let the duel begin!!

I am always in character. :)

Drats ... your lifegain deck easily bests mine!

I liked it too, HokeyPokey.

Added to the list, s0rinmark0v!

That title?! Don't be over dramatic!!!

I see lifegain in your future!

Added to the list. :)

Oh dear goodness gracious me.

Someone beat you to the punch!
It is already featured in an Aristocrat deck :)

But nice thinking!

Ah, rats.... Oh well, I'm pumped for this format, I hope wizards make this an official format :) If anyone does know, tell me plz!!!

The highest mana curve for any Aristocrat deck, so far.
But with Exhume, they are going to be cheated into play anyways, and not brought in by paying their full mana price.

Good stuff.
Added to the list.

Found the rules/article on cardshark.
I emailed the guy.
Was hoping for a reply.
I think he will enjoy that his Format took off!

Indeed...but those didn't suit the theme of the deck.
Speaking of, what do you think of my actual deck?

Will check your deck out!
And add it to the list.

Got yourself two likes, from me, kmk888....blatant whoring....freaking comedian!

Thanks for that man. I'm also working now to break your pet format!

So with your deck, I don't think it's at all bad, but I think you have cards that pull in two different directions, creating some tension. Nightsky and Edge are extremely aggressive cards and a little weird to be combining with the likes of Souls of the Faultless and Night's Whisper/Disenchant. If I were trying to move forward with the deck, I would pick a direction first. Either more aggressive, or more control based. W/B is not actually very good at a midrangey build.

Personally, I don't like Nightsky decks any more. They're very dependent on two bomby cards... While Edge and Nightsky are good, they put you in a position to lose card advantage and then not be able to finish the game. (This is why you should include Death's Grasp to finish them in these decks. You should also have a back up flying force, like 4 Mourning Thrulls and 2 Beckon Apparition. Even Blind Hunter is playable in that deck.

If you went more in a control/attrition based direction, you should use the same rares but start with cards you know to be good in almost every situation-

attack the hand:
4 Castigate
3 Gerard's Verdict
3 Tidehollow Sculler
2 Sin Collector

and add more top notch removal:
3 Unmake
4 Pillory of the Sleepless
3 Mortify
2 Death Grasp

And then go from there.

Excellent strategy. Remove all enemies. You see, this is why fiendslayer paladin and white knight and mirran crusader exist.

Thanks for the advice :)

Break it wide open, friend!!!

No banned list.

You can use ANY card in Mtg, UNLESS it is only a mythical rare.

However, like Serra Avatar...if it was, at first, a rare...and changed over to Mythical...you CAN use him as a rare.

Good luck!

I agree. Nice job Jessie!

I think it looks mean.
Black/red together.
Nasty.
I love the Phyrexian Purge, I never see anyone try to play that card.

Sangromancer, not for the Aristocrat Format...but regular formats, could rock with Purge.

Added to the list!

I read his reply in the forum, and it makes me that much more excited about this new format. I can't believe you've gotten over 30 decks. Well, I mean I can, but that's awesome!

Yep, always a good thing to hear someone like your deck.
Good job.

Nice job anubis!

Is it better than the Golem version?
You should battle them. I will check it out, for sure.

Zombies...yuck! Too evil and dark for me, I like little red Goblins more, lol.

Hmm ... I think that sacrificing goblins as a snack for hungry dragons is pretty dark ... :D

I gave you some advice as well. I love the deck, and think that a tad of cipher would make it even more potent.

That deck there may end up being one of the Aristocrat decks that made it to the Hot Page.

Good stuff.

Thanks :P

I concur - you have beaten this challenge and deserve a spot on the Hot Page!

Lol, thanks, after 3 years of building modern tron (http://www.mtgvault.com/vanguard487/decks/rg-urzatron-v4/) it wasn't hard to sub cards

Alright I finished 3 competitive decks for this format. They all contain probably the most broken uncommon ever printed, Skullclamp. (Which should probably be banned). Here they are:

http://www.mtgvault.com/kmk888/decks/trying-to-break-the-format/
http://www.mtgvault.com/kmk888/decks/aristocrat-discardclamp/
http://www.mtgvault.com/kmk888/decks/aristocrat-simic-controlclamp/

I hope you all enjoy my healthy attempt to break a format.

"I hope you all enjoy my healthy attempt to break a format."

Haha.
You sound like me!!
I like your cockiness, gusto, and Skullclamp is bullcrap, by the way!!!
Mtg designers said it was a mistake, and not sure how it got passed on.

Skullclamp started out costing 2 more mana, and also not having the awesome stats it has...it went through several more changes, including name, until it became "Skullclamp" that we all know and love.

Skullclamp started out as Suicide Sweater!

http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtgcom/daily/af17

You are the biggest contributor to this Challenge, fyi, kmk888!
Thanks!

One more post.
Noticed a couple of you deck builders went to Cardshark, and suggested changes/ideas to the Aristocrat Format Designer.
Thanks!
Got to love you guys being passionate about Mtg!

Yeah I mean besides Skullclamp, Sword of the Meek+Thopter Foundry and Sensei's Divining Top+Counterbalance are also broken uncommon combinations. Plus Hymn to Tourach/Brainstorm/Counterspell at common is ridiculous. So the cards were there, I just know enough about legacy to know what's super broken.

Yes, several people have went to the Cardshark forum and complained to the Creator of the Format about it.

I think he is overwhelmed on how to fix it.
Because, him creating Aristocrat deck was out of trying to fix the rare/uncommon/common issue that Noble/Pauper had.
But...Aristocrat is ending up turning out the same way as the other formats.

It really isn't his fault, or your fault...it is MTG's vault for changing cards from rare to uncommon/vice versa.

I am in total agreement, and I do agree that there needs to be a ban-list for this format. Especially if DCI pickes it up. I feel that there are a lot of younger players out there who are in need of an affordable format, one that they can play. If they like playing MTG at Friday night magic, let em'. But they dont because of the expenses that it requires. Perfecting this format and advertising for it may expand the magic community, and that would be great to see.

So back to the ban list..... Lol..... I think a good place to start is with the modern ban list, and the vintage/legacy ban list. Put all of those cards on there, unless they are mythic of course. That should solve a lot of problems. Cards like ponder could probably come off the ban list, maybe, maybe preordain. With serym visions being expinsive, ponder might allow a more cost effective alternative for players to turn to. Definitly leave the artifact lands on the list. Affinity will come back again then, and probably dominate the format. Tarmogoyf might be a ban, one of, if not the best 2-drop ever, was printed in rare form, and decks, and matches could be swung because of it. Even in modern, if there is not an immediate awnser, you are prolly going to lose the game. But, since only 1 is allowed, i don't see it being too broken here, but keep it in mind, if we start seeing it all over, then you should re-consider.

Well, I'm done with my rambling, have a good day :)

You are the one of the people, vanquard, in which I was talking about.
You should definitely let the creator on cardshark know your concerns.
I think we (everybody included) got the ball started with this Format having a chance at making it big.

I do like how, with only 2 rares and 12 uncommons...young kids (and people in college/with families) can afford to be competitive ANDDDD rich little spoiled kids can still play some of their very high dollar cards/decks.

It is unfortunate that the creator of the Format ran into the same problems with his Format, (confusion with rares/uncommons/commons) that he tried to avoid concerning Pauper/Noble/Peasant.

I think, I can not speak for him, that his intentions were that if he allowed 2 rares and 12 uncommon cards...that the deck would end up looking like a Pre-Constructed deck (we all have really been making Pre-Constructed decks, if you really come to think about). Further more, if they all looked like Pre-Constructed decks, they all had a 50/50 chance at winning. That, in theory, all the decks...from 15 dollars to 1000 dollar decks, would have a chance at winning. I love the ideals of that.

But as some people have pointed out, with the Urza Lands, Sword of the Meek, Artifact lands, Sol ring, etc etc etc...I can sum up the problem up like this:

Strip Mine (4th edition) was an uncommon!!!
3 Strip Mines in a deck does not come off as a Pre-Constructed deck you buy at your local Comic/Magic Shop!


So...there needs to be a Banned list.
And a ruling on rarity.
IF a card was first produced as a Rare and ended up Mythical, which do you go by?
Can you use the Rare version for your Aristocrat deck?
Can I use my Strip Mine as 3 copies for an uncommon slot? Or is it considered a rare? And can I only use 1 copy?

Sadly, we have to debate the fact of rarity, and CLEARLY wizards don't know what they are doing. So I think because of this fact, if a card was re-printed as a mythic, then clearly wizards has seen their mistake, and re-printed it with the correct rarity. I would use skull clamp as an example, but it has not been reprinted, so let's use the ever so special Tarmogoyf as an example. It was printed in future sight as a rare. The price quickly shot up because it is probably the best 2-drop in the game. Wizards realized their mistake, and when they decided to re-print it in modern masters, they changed the rarity to the mythic rarity it should have been in the first place.
Because the latest version of the goyf was printed as a mythic, the card should be counted as a mythic because wizards has had time to re-consider.

Therefore i propose a rule:
The most recent rarity is what the card is counted as.

That should solve a lot of our problems. Hope it helps

If we are debating, let me go on record:

There should of NOT ever been "Mythical" rares.

Mtg is not Pokemon!

Magic was working fine with rares.

And that rule you proposed, is a nice one.
Probably need to run it by the guy that created it, and get his opinion.

It makes sence why they have a rarity beyond rare, but yes, they could have called it something different. It is because money. They print less mythical rares and they are supposed to be (according to wizards) the better cards in the set. Money.

Vanguard, you are genius. That ruling will help out so much! Thank you for your insight.

I demand your name be celebrated. :)

I'm glad I made a positive impact here, and I bet you guys don't even realize i'm only 16 :)
I'm more then happy to help provide insight to anything you guys are working on in this format. I hope one day this format will become one of the most successful formats available. Again, I would really like to know if this is getting out to WoTC. I may email them myself and inform them if that has not been done already. The impact this has had on the vault is amazing, and I should hope that once popularized, it has the same impact on the Magic community.
-Chris (vanguard487)

Ah, one request, can you guys take a look at this deck and tell me what you think? It is a rising deck in modern meta-game and I want to get at it early. Any advice would be fantabulos!!

http://www.mtgvault.com/vanguard487/decks/through-the-breach/

Certainly ....


And I am only 18 .... Jessie is the old guy. :)

I'm working on land destruction. :)

Sinkhole started out as a common...you could have 4 of them...

Or is it going to be red/green?

Oh yes ... it's red green. Frenzied Tilling or Mwonvuli Acid-Moss + Orcish Lumberjack makes people cry. Stone rain is coming, too.

I want your opinion on this deck. I want to make a land destruction deck, but I also want to make good use of ash zealot and radha.

Should I split this plan into 2 parts, or make one deck?


http://www.mtgvault.com/knightofthehokeypokey/decks/aristocrat-radha-rage/

Lumberjack does rock, mana ramp like a champ.
Will check it out tomorrow.

Fine Jessie .... I'm in.

Yes, a taker! :)

Sure thing Jessie!

Mono blue is my favorite type of deck.
Will check it out and add it to the list.

And your mono blue deck is the favorite of mine, out of the 3 you did :)

Thanks dude! High Praise!

Sounds like a little bit of everything. Now I am super interested in seeing which two rares you used.
And you say lifelink/deathtouch...I better see Vampire Nighthawk! :)

Of course Vampire Nighthawk is in there! Take a look and let me know what you think, dude! :)

I decided to knock Helm of the Ghastlord down to two, and add two Sigil of Sleep.

Sigh .... sure, right after I:

1. Finish my Red Green Warrior Aristocrat Deck
2. Build an aristocrat deck around Yawgmoth's Bargain
3. Build Krenko, Mob Boss vs. Rhys the Redeemed aristocrat duel decks.
4. Look at the replies to the creator of this format on the forums over at cardshark
5. Strangle mtg vault for deleting an especially long comment of mine after I posted it.

Just kidding. :D I will take a look at it right away!

Van, I checked it out and left comments.

KotHP, I've started on the Azorius deck I promised.

In the meantime, here's a mono-blue to tide you over. No, its not merfolk, despite the obvious tide reference.

http://www.mtgvault.com/shinza/decks/aristocrat-blue-in-the-face/

Oh well. It works.

Shinza ....good luck.

Rhys vs Krenko, very interesting!

Found the idea on gatherer!

Does Rhys get Doubling Season as the other rare?
Or Elvish Archdruid, or some other pump?

I think Rhys will win.

Krenko...he is just slow, unless you have several Warren Instigators or Goblin Lackeys or Aether Vials, to cheat him in.
But then again...red has stuff like Pyroclasm, which utterly wreck little elves (and Goblins though...).

Hmm .... Rhys might indeed wreck krenko ... summon kuldotha rebirth!

KotHP, I finished the Azorius deck.

Hope you like it!

http://www.mtgvault.com/shinza/decks/aristocrat-azorius-uncaged/

Inspired by you and by Jessie's stout defense of Propaganda.
Enjoy!

Serra's Sanctum would rock in that deck!!
Got yourself a like.
And will be posted.

And Shinza, does that make 5 Aristocrat decks?
You rock!!

I will post 4 more ... just give me a sec. :)

On our way to over 50 Aristocrat decks made!!
Commented on them all, and added them to the list (you are tied with the most decks, fyi).

The Yawgmoth's Bargain deck inspired me.
I expected a lot more spells...and much less creatures.
As you pointed out in concerns with mill...spells are easy, and creatures are more difficult and interesting.
So, I will be doing a Bargain deck with creatures.

Ah shucks .... you're making me blush.

I am god awful at those type of decks.
There are much better people to ask.

Hey Jessie,
KnightoftheHokeyPokey made an astute observation regarding my last Aristocrat Azorius deck, which was that there were exactly no Azorius cards in it!

Properly abashed and chagrined, I returned to the workshop and crafted a new Aristocrat Azorius deck.
Here it is...

http://www.mtgvault.com/shinza/decks/aristocrat-azorius-alive/

Enjoy!

It's okay shinza ... I liked all those enchantments!

"Properly abashed and chagrined."
Where do you guys get this material?
Lots of young, future writers on here!!

Will check out the deck.

Will definitely check it out.
Zur is a neat card.

And add it to the list.

If he won't, but he probably will, then I will look at the deck, given that it has been posted on this deck and he hasn't checked it since, unless he already commented on it before it was posted, in which case I won't. :)

Thanks! That was a labyrinth of logic, but the result is an astute observation from one of you on a deck that is mine and perhaps from me on a comment that is yours.

So I'm happy.

Of course I will take a look at the deck, silly.
And will post it.
Shinza, you are out doing everyone!!!
And a lot of your decks are rock solid, too.

Thanks!!!

Out of all 7 decks, that you built for this challenge, that is my favorite of yours, Shinza!!!

You did Pyrohemia justice!

Bayside, like Saved by the Bell?
Do a link.
Copy and paste the link to the deck, and I will check it out.

whatever. just take a look and give him a few pointers. thx in advance if u ever do anything

No, I need a link.
How do I find his name on here, you know what I mean?
It is easier for you to post a link, I copy and paste it, and view the link that way.

"thx in advance if u ever do anything."
Sir, I keep my promises.
If I say I will look at it...then I will.

Not too thrilled with your "whatevers" and "if u ever do anything."
Because, I am not down voting your comments!
I am a nice guy. I try to help out.
Look at how many posts I have!

I just ask that you ask for help/friend's help politely :)

Jessie, you have put forward a heroic effort in promoting this new format.
Just putting that out there.
Heroic.

jessie, i will remember that in future, thx fr the advice :)

http://www.cardshark.com/Articles/Magic-the-Gathering/Brock-Siems/Advent-of-An-Aristocrat-%E2%80%9COfficial%E2%80%9D-Rules-for-a-New-Magic-Format/View-Article/4435?ref=facebook

Very solid questions.

I suggest going to that link, provided above, and go to the forums, and ask the maker of the Format!!! :)

I went there, signed up, endured a video about girl problems (to enter a security phrase), and posted.
Thanks for the direction!

Hell, it doesn't even need to be 3 colors or EDH.

I do think, say 10 people, making a deck together, could be interesting.
The debates.
Card choices.
Combos.
Etc.

I'm in! sounds good to me!

Is there a voting or seconding procedure to lock a card in?

Not that it matters, the debate and collaborative effort makes it worthwhile

Same. I've made some pretty lethal commanders recentally

s0rinmark0v inadvertently makes a good point about focus. Is this for lethal ass-whuppery? Or for casual playability? or both?

Or both?....
My current Rakdos, Lord of Riots commander has only lost twice in the 20something games I've used it in. True though, these were casual games and one of the losses, I wasn't using it. But still, it is one of the fastest and most lethal commanders that I have ever seen.
If it's not a fast creature, burn spell or kill spell, it ain't in there. Chandras excepted, of course

Haha! No doubt!
EDH is so much fun! Singleton decks lend themselves well to interesting board conditions.
I've had fun playing a Toshiro Umezawa deck. Kamahl, Fist of Krosa or Gerrard Capashan were interesting generals too.
Mayael the Anima makes for a pretty cool general.

Rakdos, Lord of Riots. Wow, he IS a badass. The deck almost makes itself. I can imagine he brings big pain.

I play casual.
Usually is cheaper.
Less pressure.
Usually broader base of cards to choose from.

To be specific, I usually play Casual Legacy/Vintage games that average 3 to 7 Turns.
And most of the decks are a few hundred dollars, not any more expensive.
And I play against the same type of decks. 200-300 dollar Legacy/Vintage decks.
Nothing over powered, or involving banned cards, or Power 9 and/or uber expensive cards.

I LOVE Bounce!!!

So, any awesome Bounce type Commanders?
Is Bounce even viable in EDH/Commander?
Like i've said, I have only built 2 EDH decks. And NEVER made a 3 color deck.
That is why I asked so many people to help :)
I know 3 color decks get expensive due to dual lands, so there is that :(

There are cheaper duals out there like the Guildgates and the life gaining lands from Zendikar and now Kahns of Tarkir, so there are plenty of viable options for budget dual land

Also the Venser + Stonehorn Dignitary combo is a real shitter to verse

So true...
I would say that blue and white are considerations for bounce... especially blue.
I haven't made an EDH bouncer,
though Cowardice immediately springs to mind

Give me a day or two to look around, for a Commander.

no worries!

I am looking at Roon of the Hidden Realm as a early favorite.
Sure, he doesn't bounce.
But he flickers. And is 3 colors.

Stuff like Blade Splicer, Master Splicer, Vital Splicer, Wing Splicer comes to mind.

And Rishadan Pirates.

And Fiend Hunter, Leonin Relic-Warder, Flickerwisp, Seht's Tiger, and Mangara of Corondor.

Some new morph creatures to cheat in, maybe.

Restoration Angel.

And of course, Flicker, Turn to Mist, Cloudshift, Momentary Blink, Ghostly Flicker.

That is a rough idea.
Again, it is Flicker and not a bounce deck.

http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/838094/

Needs a lot of work.

But it is the EDH deck.
And 3 colors!!!!

I posted for that! Looks intriguing! I'm psyched!
For your viewing pleasure (and hopefully some insight), here is my latest Aristocrat deck! Barely Simic, and based on a crazy card draw notion... Enjoy!

http://www.mtgvault.com/shinza/decks/aristocrat-simic-to-win-it/

Here is an Aristocrat american burn!
Enjoy!
http://www.mtgvault.com/shinza/decks/aristocrat-american-diplomacy/

Nice. :) I will add it to the list!!!

2 Things:
1: I think this is one of the most commented on decks on the vault now

2: Would you guys mind taking a look at this? I am trying to get Legacy Dredge into modern. If you know anything about it, then you will notice the similarities. I am having some troubles trying to figure out how to get my finishers on the field though, so if you could help me figure that out it would be great!
http://www.mtgvault.com/vanguard487/decks/modern-dredge-gate/

Sure! I will take a look.

I'm coming too! (Cue infernal spawn of infernal spawn of evil!)

Drat! KotHP makin me work!
I will check out the decks!
Sure would be great if AFC took off.
All these great deck ideas, most of which won't see light of day without the proper format.

Nonsense. Simic Hydras can induce hair-pulling in all formats.

And here comes another:

http://www.mtgvault.com/knightofthehokeypokey/decks/aristocrat-gw-the-program/

And another:

http://www.mtgvault.com/knightofthehokeypokey/decks/aristocrat-black-sac-attack/

And ANOTHER:

http://www.mtgvault.com/knightofthehokeypokey/decks/aristocrat-hero-sandwich/

Whew. Time to take a nap.

5 more?!

You are making me work on this Challenge!!!
Okay, fine, will look at them all!! Jeez! Just joking.
Will check them out and post them.

Hey ... I don't take lightly to challenges. :)

And Jessie, I will find time to ... mull over your decks. Yes, that's the terminology I am looking for.

Ebola? What the heck would I use to represent ebola? Massacre Worm?

Mwahahaha.
Pestilence?

Not sure...it was more social commentary, than anything else.
lol

I'm cool ... go ask Northy or Sorin or one of those moody black mages. I already reached my black deck quota for the month. :)

Moody emo black deck makers!!
With their cutting and self hate!!

Well ... they do pay life for favors. :)

I will try to have one by tomorrow, sir!!

Post it and they will come!

http://www.mtgvault.com/s0rinmark0v/decks/antiguild-challenge/

+1 from me, see how easy that was? :)
I am too stupid to do that challenge, though :(
Here is to hoping a lot of people take up the challenge, though.

Hey guys, im in a delima. I need your help. I have been playing Tron for like 2 years now, and it hasn't been working for me recently. I am thinking about selling my Tron deck for 90% store credit and getting twin. What do you guys think? I think that twin is going to be more fun to play, and give me a better chance against other decks. I just don't know. This thought has been on my mind for awhile, so its not like im rushing into this. Thanks for your help.

90% store credit is pretty decent.

Before you go and get a new deck and sell your old one, why not try different deck ideas and see what you like, THEN go and sell your old Tron deck

Thats what I'm doing right now, I am liking Living End and Twin both. Thoughts on which is better? (I like playing both of them)

I've never heard of wither so I wouldn't know

Bounce, my favorite.

Commented on.
Thanks for finding this.

*blushes* anytime! I just want to throw in my two cents

Up to you, friend. Up to you. :)

I GOT ANOTHER ONE: Am I allowed to use unhinged or does that go too far? I just want Laughing Hyena in a deck, that's all.

Again, up to you.
Honestly you would have to ask the guy that created it.
You can find the link to that website/guy on this deck page.

For safety sake, I will keep it out. :,( NEVERTHELESS THIS DECK IS ALMOST DONE!

Will comment on them and add them to the list.
Thanks for making them!

Alright, my last batch of Artistocrat decks, if I keep going I might make a whole new list of decks xD

http://www.mtgvault.com/ciaranmadgrin/decks/aristocrat-gangblins/
http://www.mtgvault.com/ciaranmadgrin/decks/aristocrat-fatal-seduction/

Thanks for sharing, good sir!