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Trying to be original and beat people to the punch.Using Ob Nixilis, Unshackled PLUS cards that make my opponent search their libraries (thus losing 10 life).Any advice is welcome. If you like it, that is even better :)Keeping theme of Ob Nixilis, I added Ob Nixilis, the Fallen. Combo with him includes:Ob Nixilis, the Fallen + Scouting Trek + Clear the Land****Look down at my first deck comment to see how many combos are possible****
1) Play Ob Nixilis, Unshackled2) Play cards that force opponent to search their libraries. Easy enough to understand. Each time your opponent searches his library, with Ob Nixilis, Unshackled in play:1) They lose a creature2) They lose 10 life3) They pump up Ob Nixilis, Unshackled up +1/+12nd combo is with Ob Nixilis, the Fallen:Ob Nixilis, the Fallen + Scouting Trek + Clear the Land1) Deals 15 damage to your opponent 2) Puts 15 1/1 Counters on Ob Nixilis, the Fallen, making him a 18/18 creature.3) Play Rite of Consumption, sack Ob Nixilis to do 18 damage to your opponent.
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Combos people:1) Ob Nixilis, Unshackled + Fertilid = Pay 4 mana do 20 damage to your opponent2) Ob Nixilis, Unshackled + Maralen of the Mornsong = Opponent can't draw and receives 10 damage every upkeep3) Ob Nixilis, Unshackled + Collective Voyage = Pay 2 mana to do 10 damage and get an extra land in play4) Ob Nixilis, Unshackled + Diabolic Edict = Destroy opponent's creature and put +1/+1 counter on Ob Nixilis, Unshackled5) Ob Nixilis, Unshackled + Beast Within = Destroy opponent's creature and put +1/+1 counter on Ob Nixilis, Unshackled6) Ob Nixilis, Unshackled + Abrupt = Destroy opponent's creature and put +1/+1 counter on Ob Nixilis, Unshackled7) Ob Nixilis, Unshakled + Diabolic Edict/Beast Within/Abrupt + Rite of Consumption = Destroy opponent's creature, put +1/+1 counter on Ob Nixilis, Unshacked, and sack him to do 5 damage to opponent. You gain 5 life.8) Ob Nixilis, the Fallen + Scouting Trek + Clear the Land = 15 damage to opponent and Ob Nixilis, the Fallen becomes 18/189) Ob Nixilis, the Fallen + Scouting Trek + Clear the Land + Rite of Consumption = 33 damage to your opponent. You gain 18 life.10) Ob Nixilis, the Fallen + Collective Voyage = Does 3 damage to opponent and pumps up Ob, Nixilis +1/+1 for each mana (minus 1 forest). So, if you pay 6 mana, it does 15 damage to your opponent and makes Ob Nixilis, the Fallen 18/1811) Ob Nixilis, the Fallen + Collective Voyage + Rite of Consumption = (using 6 mana, for example) Does 33 damage to opponent. You gain 18 life.
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i need help with a duel deck sereis
I'm your man :)
oracle of muldaya would help and some tutors
The Oracle card, very nice!!! Yep, it does need some draw/tutors...I will give you that.Just not sure what I would take out for the two cards mentioned.With the Oracle...I could take half of the deck out...and just focus on Ob Nixilis, the Fallen. That is a possibility.
but with tutors u get unshackled out with marelen and its likely game over
that will be a broken edh combo
You noticed it first, friend. Make it and they will come :)
http://www.mtgvault.com/vaan104/decks/maralen-edh/I made it
And I just gave your deck it's first like...hopefully the first of many!
I just ordered an ob nixilis, unshackled and a maralen ill try to build the rest of my edh with just cards I own since I might only get people to play it once lol
geez what did i start lol i said i was planning to build an edh with 1 card and now everyone is talking about em...technically i guess jessie started it tho
Jumped on it while it was hot. :)
I know...i am a poser and do not make original decks...so I looked at m15 cards...and found Ob Nixilis. Thought I would go with it. I wanted to be original, for once :)
I would buy him, if you have the money, before he goes up in price.
the copy I bought was $1.80 on ebay with free shipping so its not bad yet
thats cruel...i was thinking about using unshackled as an EDH Commander.
He makes blue decks worried about using search engines, that is for sure!!! Never played EDH...so not sure how common search engine cards are...but I imagine lots of people use search engine cards...with only running 1 copy of every card. Good luck, variable!!!
ty im pretty sure an edh with that deck would be brutal cuz theres lots of ways to search for stuff. from what my brother tells me everyone runs tutors in their decks.
When/if you design the deck, variable, please let me know. You, for sure, would have a like from me, coming your way.
its a work in progress ive already started it im trying to remmeber the name of a legendary creature. 4 mana 2b 2 colorless */* and if you discard it you can search for a swamp. its annoying cuz i used to use it
Korlash, Heir to Blackblade?Searched..only card i see that is close to what you described.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Default.aspxBest card search site I know.
ya thatd be the card lol
to be honest im not sure where to go with this deck some of it im outright stealing from vaans vamp deck mainly the lands since im lazy and dont want to do the research lol. but this deck still needs a lot of help and im not even at 70 cards yet lol
http://www.mtgvault.com/variable/decks/edh-ob-nixilis-unshackled/thats the rough draft its still got a long way to go. vaan says i cant use crypt ghast cuz white mana can be paid for its extort cost which i think is ridiculous.
A rules question? Here I come!
its an optional method of payment so i should be able to use it in a mono black edh deck
How the hell does an ability change the color of a card? It can't. It doesn't. My Black Knight is not white because it has protection. A red card with a green activated ability is still red.
for edh the colors of the card used in the deck have to match the commanders colors. however since its an option to pay white or black idk about that one
its not the color of the card its color identity in edh no card in the deck can have a mana symbol that isn't on the commander
Only cards with a color identity that's a subset of the commander's color identity can be put into the deck. A card's color identity is the set of colors the card is and the colors of any mana symbols appearing on the card.that is posted from the edh rules pg
: variable : !903.4<Datatog>: 903.4. The Commander variant uses color identity to determine what cards can be in a deck with a certain commander. The color identity of a card is the color or colors of any mana symbols in that card's mana cost or rules text, plus any colors defined by its characteristic-defining abilities (see rule 604.3) or color indicator (see rule 204). ["ex 903.4." for examples]<MadMageQc>: the key here is that reminder text (italized, in parenthesis) is not rules text
207.1. The text box is printed on the lower half of the card. It usually contains rules text defining the card's abilities.207.2. The text box may also contain italicized text that has no game function. 207.2a. Reminder text is italicized text within parentheses that summarizes a rule that applies to that card. It usually appears on the same line as the ability it's relevant to, but it may appear on its own line if it applies to an aspect of the card other than an ability.
So, brothers, what is the determination, can you use the card or not? I am thinking no. I would guess that both colors on the split card would have to match the Commander card. Googled searched it...and that is what I am coming up with. Several people have asked the same question about split cards...and it seems pretty unanimous...that you can't use a split card UNLESS both colors are covered in the Commander card. That seems super anal..because if you are ONLY going to cast it using the same color as your Commander...what does it matter if it is a split card...seems sorta dumb to me.
I looked it up it does work
http://chat.magicjudges.org/mtgrules/and i posted the above rules as my proof lol
http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=magic/rules/edhThat says you can't. Mainly because Split cards COUNT AS ALL OF THEIR COLORS.So, if a split card is blue/white...it counts as BOTH BLUE AND WHITE, even if you only want to use it as blue...it still counts as white too. But, what do i know, I do not play EDH. :)
903.4. The Commander variant uses color identity to determine what cards can be in a deck with a certain commander. The color identity of a card is the color or colors of any mana symbols in that card’s mana cost or rules text, plus any colors defined by its characteristic-defining abilities (see rule 604.3) or color indicator (see rule 204).Since dual mana symbols count as both types that make them up... you can't technically use Crypt Ghast. Sorry, your friend is right.
I would compromise if this was casual ... you can use Crypt Ghast, but not it's ability.
i confirmed it with a judge on that site its fully legal based on the b/w cost is not a part of the rules text
I found out the text for extort isn't included in its color identity it is just a reminder text of the extort mechanic so crypt ghast is legal in a mono black edh
Again, not arguing...But Wizards of the Coast says you can not.http://archive.wizards.com/Magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=magic/rules/edh"In fact, if a card contains a mana symbol anywhere on it that’s not one of your commander’s colors, you can’t include it in that deck! "
But hell, i say use Crypt Ghast anyways, and only take it out if you play someone and they complain about it :)
they say that the mana symbol is just a reminder text of the extort ability so it technicaly isn't on the card
Hmm ... there technically is no mana symbol ... but it's assumed to be a part of the Extort mechanic.
what im getting out of that is its probably older then the rulings that i posted and got back from the judges. or they just didnt think out that part in regards to the extort ability. which if looked at correctly iss kinda lile if you have this you can do that but if you dont you can pay this instead. rule text vs non rule text
This is a interesting chat. I say if a Judge said it is okay, then run with it!!!
Huh ... I learned something new!But I have a question ... is this and activated ability, a spell ability, or both? =).
Idk I saw rulings that extort doesn't target but I guess u do have to activate it
AND it's triggered because it says "when" ... =).Not all activated abilities target.Ezuri, Renegade Leader's second ability, for example.
I'm glad that extort can join the no-target club!
awwww.....your deck took the top spot from me...*tear*
I think Corpsejack menace would fit well in this deck. 3 of your creatures gain +1/+1 counters.
Ghost quarter is quite handy here. I KNOW no one will search their deck.However, if no one wants to search their deck, Ghost Quarter = destroy target land. That could be mighty handy in destroying a key land ... like a dual land, for example.
ya I thought about that to
If anyone wants to loose ... by all means, search your deck. =).
KnightoftheJokeyPokey...I already thought of that, friend.That is where Fertilid, Maralen, and Collective Voyage comes into playTHEY FORCE opponent to search their library.In theory, they have to search their library even if they don't want to. :)Believe me, i thought to myself, "they will be douchebags and not search their decks, so i must force the issue."
No ... don't run Ghost Quarter for the search. Use it to destroy key lands.The card reliably destroys lands, and your opponent doesn't want to put down another land, so you have lost one land and they have too. With the number of dual decks being used ... that could buy you some time to finish someone off.
Oh, i get your point. I added 2. Nice card suggestion!
Kinda hard to describe.As an added bonus, Ghost Quarter lets your opponent commit hari-kari. =).
A man chooses, a slave obeys. XD!
I will be honest...i have done that bs before, hari-kari. I have killed myself with a Lightning Bolt before.I will be man enough to admit that :)
Seriously ... you didn't get the Bioshock reference? :)
What is a Bioshock? Does that make me square? :)
I play, on my Wii, old school Zelda and Mario games...does that make me a little less square?
Lol ... do you own a game cube? :)
Nope, I do not :(
i'll stick with xbox 360 lol
Oh ... I guess it was too square for you!
Square...Game Cube...did you make a funny? :)
no...splinter made a funny.
Speaking of Splinter...Magic Vault took my Mutant Ninja Turtle deck off the hot list :( O well, can't complain too much. Thanks for the likes guys!! You all rock! Would buy you all a drink, if half of you weren't underage :)
lol...that just leaves more for the rest of us
Speaking of, look where your deck is variable!!! I will just take a little credit for it :)Good job!
i see it and theres like 5 likes and 48 views doesnt make sense lol
Like you said, it leaves more room for the rest of us, lol.Again, it is deserving. Not as good as my deck my wife made, but pretty good! ;)
She says congrats, by the way!
much appreciated.
And she says, her deck could still beat yours! lolSounds like a woman, for you!
meh the thing about woen...we can still put them over our knees...*grin* and my goblin would beat that deck of hers lol
so unbelievably broken can see why its banned in all formats great deck though so powerfull
It isn't broken, friend.It isn't legal right now because M15 cards are not standard yet, and Ob Nixilis, Unshackled is a M15 card.In a few days/weeks, this deck will be legal. At least Vintage/Legacy Legal, that is. I just wanted to do something original. I knew M15 was coming out...so this is what I came up with :)
youre kidding, right? its banned in all formats because M15 cards are not legal yet.......congrats, man.
Thank you. Kinda of bitter sweet...cause, when Magic Vault made this a Hot Deck...they took down my Mutant Ninja Turtle deck from the Hot Page. Kinda the same when I originally posted my Mutant Ninja Turtle deck...they took down my Tim deck that was on the Hot Page. Apparently they don't want one person having too much of the limelight. Which, i can completely understand. The Turtle deck and the Tim deck had their turns! Now, it is time for Ob Nixilis! I really can't complain, though.Thanks NinjaStyle612, that was a classy move!
i dont think there is any moderation on this site lol...probably just circumstances. though, my comment was directed at Pretz, and highly sarcastic. I am proud of you though :)
No...I think there is some sort of Moderation...because it has happened before.My old hot deck, when i posted a new hot deck...went from 1st page to completely off the Hot deck list. It didn't go to the 2nd or 3rd hot page list...it was just completely removed altogether. Almost like they are punishing your old hot deck for you posting a new hot deck, lol. The Turtle deck went from top 10 decks...to completely removed. Again, if it went to 15th place...20th place...even 30th deck..maybe i could believe it. But for it to be removed, altogether...it makes it hard to believe. Because there has been decks on the hot page, for months, without being commented on/liked/or removed. There are several hot decks, right now, that have not had any comments for over a month...but they are still there. So it makes no sense. Only explanation is that they are removed on purpose. Again, it happened to me before. I had a top 10 deck...I posted the Turtle deck...and the other top 10 deck (Old school Tim deck) was completely removed....not just moved down in rank. But removed altogether. But i sound like a crybaby. lol. Don't mean to. Just observing. I am just happy that anybody likes my decks. :)
yeh that sounds pretty sucky jessie the turtle deck was pretty cool
sorry not broken just can be really powerful and decimating in a multilayer formatand yeh will be legal in a couple of days
Thanks pretZ. I almost feel like a traitor...I really do feel that if I would not of posted this deck, the Mutant Ninja Turtle deck would still be on the hot page.
but if you had not posted this deck than we wouldn't of had another amazing deck to admire and inspire new tactics and combos.
yeah... this is impressive. I like it a lot. Well done Jessie. :) superb mana curve, and great power. didn't even think of doing anything like this with Ob. :) I can't even suggest mana ramp to get him out faster... wouldn't make this deck any better than it already is.once again... well done.only thing I might say is swap Diabolic edict for Geth's verdict. it is BB to play, but they also lose 1 life. edict is more flexible mana wise, but verdict has a better effect, at least in my opinion. unless of course you are sacrificing your own creatures.
Thank you Kazzong :)
And I prefer the Diabolic Edict, as you mentioned, only because it isn't double black. For sure, the Geth's is overall better.
Ghost Quarter would be perfect, and in a pinch you can also activate the Fallen's landfal twice. Sorry if this is a duplicate comment. The site is acting funny.
he already has ghost quarter
they would just decline to search....
and that would also put them at a disadvantage. so they are in a poor position either way. :)
Oh, I didn't see that. My bad.
So, anyone know how to register for the forum?They keep asking what color an Island is, to be able to sign up for the forumI state it is "colorless" and they say it is wrong. I am interesting in knowing if there is certain amount of hot decks you can have, and if so, do they erase your oldest hot deck.
there isnt much on the forum......kind of a wasteland, really. and just say blue, you know thats what theyre looking for lol
They CAN'T decline to search. Look at these cards:1) Fertilid2) Maralen3) Collective Voyage.I force them to search their libraries. They sorta have no choice. But with Ghost Quarter...yeah, you are sadly right, they will not choose to search for a land.
can't remember...Where is it asking you the color of an island?
yes, those cards force a search, which is why I responded to the Ghost Quarter comment, whis has the word "May" on it, so yes, they can decline to search for Ghost Quarter
Oh...yeah...i seen that too late. Tried to correct it, you guys are fast at posting!!! lolYes, they would most likely refuse to search for a land. But it will still probably nuke their best non-basic land!! Goodbye Strip Mine/Port/City of Brass/etc.
you better hope that Strip Mine is tapped.......
Kazzong..it is asking two questions:1) What "colour" (because they are British) is an Island?2) then as a security to make sure i am not spam, "What color is a Forest?"I post "colorless" and they say it is wrong.I even try to say an Island is "blue" and it is wrong.Not sure what they want.
Well, maybe you guys can answer my question:Why, when you post a hot deck..does your old hot deck magically disappear?As stated above, it has happened more than one time.Both times, I have had 2 hot decks on the front page...i post a new hot page, and one of my older 2 hot decks magically disappears COMPLETELY off the hot page. It isn't put 10 decks down, or 20 decks down, or to the 2nd or 3rd hot page...but removed altogether. Does anyone know why that happens?
ok, do they give you multiple options, or do you have to type it in? because it SHOULD say that colorless or "colourless" is the correct answer.
I would ask the admins, in the Forum, but apparently I do not know what color an Island or Forest is. lol
perhaps since it is UK English, they want the answer of colourless.
They do not give options."what color is an Island?I have tried:1) colorless2) colourless3) Blue4) blueGuessing i need to try "C"olorless or "C"olourless with capital "C"s. Not sure.
hm... methinks that something is broken. now that I think about it, I was asked this question when I registered and I didn't have any issue when I stated that it had no color.hmm... might ask Surewhynot, since he is a mod on the forums.
He will probably know, then. Thanks Kazzong!!!
happy to help. :) hopefully he is on here.
And don't want to be "that guy" but..out of this deck and this deck:http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/3-brutal-blackgreen-combos/Which do you like better?
NIce deck! And seems working fine and is balanced. Nice deck indeed! 10/10 good job man !
Thank you, my good man! I focus mainly, since getting back into Magic last year (and joining this site), on these 3 things:1) Tempo2) Mana curve/occurrence3) Artifact/enchantment/creature hateIf you focus on those things, I have found, the decks sort of make themselves...and become all around solid.
yeah I make these decks in the same way !
but mostly I like tribals
You have no way to protect your combo mechanic directly.Green: Beast within, Plumet, Huricane, Desert Twister, WEatherlight, Red: Its 4 toughness i will cheese him.Black: Really do i need to explain why he would be dead for this one?Blue: should have never hit the boardWhite: Path, swords, wog, day, vengence, o-ring, path of peace, angels verdict, need i go on?Make a way to protect him. My Sugestion Is: Remove The Fallen for 3 pairs of lightning greaves.
If i remove, the Fallen, then I have to remove 9 cards, and it ruins the deck. 2nd combo is with Ob Nixilis, the Fallen:Ob Nixilis, the Fallen + Scouting Trek + Clear the Land1) Deals 15 damage to your opponent2) Puts 15 1/1 Counters on Ob Nixilis, the Fallen, making him a 18/18 creature.3) Play Rite of Consumption, sack Ob Nixilis to do 18 damage to your opponent.
The deck is already legacy, so you are looking at, 10 mana to do the first 18 life loss. Followed by more mana still. That is 4 cards at high mana to win. When you could just drop them for ways to up efficiency of the Primary combo source. For Example: greater good for drawSylvan Library for draw/top deck manipulationAsceticismPrivileged positionAll of these work to help you get your cards that you need to key off a large amount of damage. But the costs in mana is so high to do your combo i could honestly use red burn to kill you faster.
So....anyone seen this combo, with M15? Life's Legacy + PhytotitanDraw 7 cards, and Phytotian back in play, next turn. All for 2 mana!I see so much potential with Life's Legacy!
i think the phytotitan is the card with the potential, Life's is nice because it's a little cheaper than cards in the past but the Phytotitan is the reusable card.
Phytotitan is going in a plant deck. He is freaking awesome. With rancor he's a 9/2 auto-return to battlefield with trample for 7 mana. In green, the color of mana ramp.
phytotitan rancor combo is nice also.
Man, I would get so pissed off going against that.
I thought you guys might like those cards/that combo.When I seen it, I smiled to myself!
So, i would make the deck, but again, don't want the chance of this deck disappearing :)Might try to make a deck around the 3 cards:Life's LegacyRancorPhyptotitanAnd just keep it unlisted, until my other two decks fade down the list.
I'd cut the fallen as i think it is more important to play tutors (Worldly Tutor) and use unshackled and i'd add white to give you more reach with removal (path to exile) and library manipulation with (aven mindcensor) in case mornsong gets out first, run 4 ghost quarters and fix lands to carry white too and you might be on to something.clear the way could hurt you too as regular ramp might be better than letting your opponents get some advantage too.Maybe something like thishttp://www.mtgvault.com/ktrojan/decks/ob-nixilis-unshackled/
Ktrojan: Ob Nixilis, the Fallen and Collective Voyage are brutal together. And Collective Voyage is brutal with Ob Nixilis, Unshackled...10 damage for 2 mana!!! So, Collective Voyage has multiple interactions in this deck. I like for my cards to have 2 purposes in my decks...if I take out the Fallen, then Collective Voyage is weakened.Did you see the 11 plus combos? People love combos and overpowered concepts. Sure, it is not as strong as:http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/3-brutal-blackgreen-combos/...and probably not as solid as your deck..But i think people will find this deck very tasty. I thank you for thinking that I "might be on to something." :)And, Mornsong won't come out first, because I won't play it first. If played at the wrong time...i would be stepping on my own feet.I did add 2 Worldly Tutors though :) Thank you for the suggestion. If there are any decks that you would like me to look at, in return, i will do so!Good luck!
So If mornsong will only come out as the combo just run 1 and go 4 worldly then you have a better chance to hit only your ob's and if your one gets discarded or exiled that's fine as your not using it for the tutor anyway.
Downed the Mornsong and upped the Tutor. Thanks, again :)
Cool deck Jessie :)
I had a little help. Ktrojan suggested the Worldly Tutor. And Puschkin, when designing the deck with me, found Collective Voyage. Much thanks to them, and any one that helps out other people's decks. :)
THIS IS AMAZING!!!Finally a G/B build that's interesting! I am prompltly going to start saving cash to make this!
Glad you liked it, i do not own the cards..and have not yet played tested it, but i think it has potential. Red burn would be hard to keep up with....as well as blue counter decks would be difficult to play against...but i think it could turn out some a few wins. And interesting wins.
Red burn you say ...http://www.mtgvault.com/knightofthehokeypokey/decks/budget-over-9000/Happy birthday! :) l
well done Jessie.
Bile Blight. Think about it ...
Only Unshackled would get around it. Good call.
:) No problem! Wouldn't the lands still be called by their type ... so it could help you.
Please explain, for the slower people, like myself. Kazzong and Puschkin always have to help me understand the rules. Couldn't Bile Blight work for my other deck. I get confused, sometimes. Don't mind me.
When you make a token, it's name is the same as it's types unless otherwise noted ... so if lands turn to tokens, they all have the same name if they were the same land ....
Tis a shame that you do not run Shrek, for Shrek is love, and Shrek is all powerful. Praise him!http://www.mtgvault.com/tangey/decks/shrek-is-love-shrek-is-fattys/
But can your beloved green, goofy Shrek beat my Mutant Ninja Turtles?http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/mutant-ninja-turtle-in-magic/Shrek would run in fear, to his donkey!!
I'd like to point out that Collective Voyage doesn't force the search. They must search _up to_ X lands. Nevertheless, it's still wonderful. Well done.
No, it does force a search. Read Collective Voyage again: Each player searches his library for X lands where X is the TOTAL amount of mana paid. So, if you payed any mana, it doesn't help your opponent if he doesn't pay mana, he will at least have to search for whatever you payed for. So, this is a forced search for 2 mana.The card reads, "each player searches..."The only "may" part of the card is that I "may" or my opponent "may" choose to pay mana.The search part isn't optional. I made sure of that, when asking Puschkin to help me design the deck. :)Thanks for checking it out, though, Dankirk!
Dear Jessie, this stumped me for a while too with my Archive Trap trick deck. The card does say "Each player searches his or her library for up to X basic land cards"
I called Puschkin out too, lol. I said the same thing!I said, Puschkin, Collective Voyage says that the my opponent "may" search his library or he may not search it. He corrected me. He is awesome, throwing him out a plug, with card suggestions!
Again, thanks for looking over the deck, and spending time to do so.
Uh oh, sorry Jessie, but I think you missed the "up to" part in my previous post. I'm sorry for this pestering.
I am dumb sometimes, what is it you are trying to say, that "up to" can be choose to be 0?Even if he chooses to search and not find any lands...he still had to search, right? And when he searched, he took 10 damage.I am confused, friend. Can you please explain. I want the deck to work, so if Collective Voyage does not work..i need to remove it.
Yeah, I believe "up to" may be chosen to be 0. I still think it fits quite well though. With The Fallen out it can finish the game. And you can always pay some 2-4 yourself and they'll be crazy not to fetch the lands.
And it is no pestering, this is what Magic Vault is all about. Helping each other out. People want to make and play good magic decks. That includes me. I don't want to build decks that actually don't work. So I much appreciate your thoughts and comments. Decided to return the favor, and respond to a few of your decks. I just hope Collective Voyage does work. Juror is out on that.
Yay, cheers mate. \o/
But again, Unshackled says whenever your opponent searches his library (even if he doesn't find anything), then he takes 10 damage.So, even he he chooses 0...and finds no lands...he still had to search, right? So, he still takes the 10 damage.And if that is true..he takes the 10 damage no matter what, he might as well get lands out of the deal. I mean, even if he picks 0, he still has to search, right? He has the option, i guess is what you are saying to not find anything.But he doesn't have the option of choosing to search or not. He has to search.
Hmm, you might actually be correct with that. I was just talking to couple of my mtg friends about this aswell. They believe the searching still happens too. Well, it's good that these fine points get solved. Hell, I think I'm gonna put the card in my Archive Trap deck aswell, it even has Hedron Crabs to benefit from it.
And you taught me something, friend, I never thought of the opponent choosing not to find anything. It is tricky of them, i guess, but it never says they had to find anything. It is all about the fine points. Thank you, for showing me that. P.S. What is the deck name you are referring to? I don't see one that splashes green. You have been on here since, 2011? Glad to see I got you to open up and post a few comments :)Did check out a few of your decks, as stated above, and some of them look really promising! Good job on them.
Right here: http://www.mtgvault.com/dankirk/decks/johnys-zombie-mill-v2/
It has my like, and yep, Voyage does look viable in the deck :)
For collective voyage, it states that each player searches, not MAY search. It is a force and therefore meets the requirements. Very cool. :)
Puschkin found it for me. I knew about the Fertilid and Maralen card...but not the Voyage card. IT was a great find, of his, and helped make this deck better. Shout out to Puschkin!
Yeah. See, I love it when people use cards that I know of, in ways that I hadn't right of. It gives me new options and inspirations for my own deck building. :)You merger knew what people are going to come up with in here. :)
Yep :) I very much agree.What is humbling, but also inspiring though, is coming up with a deck...posting it...and then seeing someone come up with a better version/way to play it. My favorite is looking at a deck..and seeing new cards (like Tolarian Entrancer) you have never seen before, and realizing how great the card is and admiring what the deck creator has done with it.
Indeed. Just saw a deck like that actually. It completely breaks amulet of vigor and bounce lands. For a competitive turn two-4 win. It is by Alleywayjack.
On a side note I come asking a favor... Could you look at some decks for me? Not any of mine... But my brother's. He is super shy and doesn't ever comment or ask for help. But would love feedback on his decks. He only has 4 up on the vault.
Yep, that dude (and his friends...that you mentioned broke vault 2) makes my head hurts in a good way! Like studying for law school, when trying to go over their deck designs. Creative, to say the least. Sure, Kazzong, you have always been kind to me. Make solid decks. Give awesome advice/card suggestions. What is his name? Or the links would work too. Speaking of advice (time to plug my own stuff, again, lol?)...Polymorphist's Jest, have you seen it yet? M15. Trying to make a Frog Tribal deck. It could work, right?Check it out, and any card suggestions are much welcomed!http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/m15-frog-tribal-is-possible/
Ok. He goes by Egotines.yeah jest is awesome, a super powered turn to frog. :). And I shall happily take a look at your frog deck. :)
Most people are splashing red with jest, and using stuff like pyroclasm to nuke the opponent's creatures. I went with something a little more complicated.
I see that. Love the concept with peer pressure. Periods there is a way to limit the amount of creatures they play, so you can take them more consistently? Hmm... Gonna have to look into that. There is a counter spell card that works on a similar fashion (counters the spell of you control more creatures) that I think might fit that theme... But I can't remember what it is called.
Jessie our decks compliment each others a little bit even tho mines and edh and all black lol. just took me a bit to motivate myself to actually build it. i had the idea when i first saw the spoiler but it was a good exercise for me. means im learning the cards and stuff. doomrunner00 a guy ive known for 3 years or so basically said that i need to focus on two colors. i chose black and then had to choose between red and green so i flipped a quarter and got to have red as my 2nd color so according to him i have to play exclusively those colors for the next 5 years lol......not likely to happen but i'll spend more time with them.
Equilibrium would slow them down, Kazzong. Variable, yes, the decks do compliment each other. Ob Nixilis shows great promise.
ah. that might work. :)
Throw some love over to Egotines. He has a couple of decks that look very interesting, multifaceted, and original. Those things should not be overlooked on Magic Vault of the Mtg world. He is too shy...like i was in high school and college...could of enjoyed life more and had a lot more fun. Encourage him to speak up. To post comments. To post Deck Descriptions. http://www.mtgvault.com/egotines/decks/something/http://www.mtgvault.com/egotines/decks/the-goat-deck/http://www.mtgvault.com/egotines/decks/just-annoying/http://www.mtgvault.com/egotines/decks/deck-theft/I mean, come on, who thinks of making a deck that can win with Goats? :)
crap... his something deck has been updated and isn't called that anymore.http://www.mtgvault.com/egotines/decks/i-dont-know-what-to-name-this/
Looks like an insane combo deck. Only problem that I can see right now is the high mana curve. Greater than 2.6 average cmc and running 22 lands...and all of the combos require the 5-mana Ob or the 6-mana Ob. I know you have mana ramp with dark rituals and your sorceries but it's something to consider for now. I'll do some more in-depth analysis in a bit...
Remember what i said about Johnny decks? This is an example. Mana curve is obvious problem...but people love decks like these :) I do not mind accommodating.
Unshackled is right. That's a pretty mean combo engine once you get that beast out. Using Fertilid to kill an opponent using 4 mana is pretty nuts. Well done sir.
Thank you. Took a lot of Magic searching to find Fertilid. IT works more efficient than Mornsong and Voyage. Good catch on that. :)
card has this ability: 1) "Creatures entering the battlefield don't cause abilities to trigger."So..., 2) another creature has, "when this creature comes into play, you sack a artifact or bury creature."Would you have to sack the artifact if you had card Number 1, in play? Or does that just count for stuff already in play? I have a new, interesting deck in mind, to make. I need to know this rule.
You would not have to sac because the enter the battlefield trigger essentially does not exist. It would also stop Master Biomancer, Grey Merchant, Fanatic of Mogis, Disciple of Nylea, Master of Waves, evolve and all those triggers where it says when the creature comes into play, you bounce another creature or sac it.
Making a deck now, Hushwing Gryff meets Torpor Orb. Will post soon. Looks to be brutal!!!
Another good one would be phyrexian dreadnought. :)
Yep, it is done.
It is done.Hushwing Gryff + Torpor Orb = Insanely powerful creatures for dirt cheap mana cost. A 11/11 creature with trample for 1 manaA 10/10 for 5 manaA 9/8 creature with both flying and trample for 4 manaA 7/7 creature for 2 manaIf you have enjoyed this deck, at all, try taking a look at this one:http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/m15-hushwing-meets-torpor-orb/Suggestions and comments are welcomed.
12/12 creature, for 1 mana. Correction.I am clueless, sometimes.
Lol... its ok. :) everyone is allowed to have that every now and then. :P
Thanks for liking this deck. I have one more deck, I just built. It will be my last deck I build for awhile. I tried, with the new deck, to break one of my Favorite old Blue cards. Be looking out for it. I will be posting the link in a few days. Thanks for the support, guys!
http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/i-broke-my-equilibrium/Besides making my first EDH deck, suggested by surewhynot, this link I posted is to the last deck i will be building for awhile. I hope you enjoy it. As always, comments and suggestions are welcome.
See you Jessie! Enjoy your break, and don't worry about us; NorthernWarlord is back.
Not breaking...just less deck building. I can't stop myself. It is addicting.Right now I am building another deck...and just told myself I wouldn't make anymore.A spongebob deck.Squidward- a squid. Patrick- a starfishSpongebob- a spongeMr. Crabs- a lobster, oddly enoughPearl- whaleSandy cheeks- squirrelMrs. Poppy Puff- puffer fishIt is in the oven, cooking :) As we speak.
There is a crab card.
Mr. Crabs is a lobster, though, on the show. His name is Mr. Crabs...but the producers/makers of the show states that he is a Lobster. Go figure. It is humor that, apparently I don't understand. Only lobster card in Mtg is Rock Lobster. :)
http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/spongebobs-bikini-bottom-bash/Spongebob deck :) lol
Need help guys.As you have seen in my last few decks...flashy combo decks I can do pretty well. Theme decks, yep, can make them as good as anyone else...Standard however...I suck at.Made my first standard deck in 12 years.Please, comment on it. Need lots of help.Challenged myself and made the entire deck out of M15 cards.Here is the link:http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/1st-standard-deck-in-12-years/
http://www.mtgvault.com/jessie/decks/squirrels-call-from-lifeline/Needs advice/likes/suggestions/comments.I noticed Lifeline had never been recognized by Magic Vault members. Thought I would try to do it justice.
http://www.mtgvault.com/variable/decks/overkill/ my own little version. id like to keep it modern but almost thinking about adding worldly tutor or some of the cards that youve got in yours. maybe to the sideboard.