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PICTURES FROM THE IQ ARE UP! if u wanna see me playing tokens at its best with a massive board of spirits go to the star city website and click on the rotating banner on the part where it says super iq belmont, nc. it will take you to a link on facebook for the event that has a highlighted link in the middle for RC gaming and Toys. click on it to see their facebook page. im the guy in the big grey sweater and a black hat closer to the wall. just look for the picture with a comment from james parks. thas me! im staring someone down like conley woods does. also, note how many tokens i have out against control. :) i poop in esper's face! lol here, i saves you all time...this is what we do to control... http://www.facebook.com/events/304925792877258/#!/photo.php?fbid=373860595976109&set=pu.164865070208997&type=1&theater Currently at the super iq in Charlotte. I just won 2-0 against esper control. Round 2 coming up. Won round 2 against mono green 2-1. I advance to 2-0 here at the super iq. Round 3 I beat mono black infect 2-1. I advance to 3-0. Awaiting round 4 pairings. Won round 4 against pod. Now 4-0. Gonna just draw into top 8. Good day for tokens Check this out. There were 3 4-0 going into round 5 and I got paired down and had to play. I ended up crushing esper control and went 5-0. Then drew my last round and finished first at 5-0-1. Lost in the top 8 and finished 5th. Still a good day for tokens
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Take out the honors, run masters call, and possibly a Moorland haunt. but to many enhancements, to slow to make them worth it. or throw in a timely or 2 just in chance you can't aggro them enough, because a rachet bomb would rip this apart.
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i love when people play ratchet bomb cuz then i slam a hero in ur face or just make more with elspeth. masters call is garbage for 3 cuz their not flyers. the pumps are what make this deck work. my buddy ran the same exact list except he had loyal cathar instead of honor of the pure and he went 2-4. the deck spoke for itself. its almost autopilot sometimes. moorland haunt is awful cuz id have to splash a whole nother color and have a dude in the grave. considering theres only 8 in the deck...yea. thnx for the suggestions tho. glad it at least sparked some interest
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and slow....no, my average kill was turn 6. i never saw over 8 except against flare. u save the pumps in hand and get ur dudes out cuz it baits their swing. i literally went honor, sorin, emblem swing 12 in one turn. its all in how and when u play what that makes the deck lethal
just saying a faced similar deck, after the first day of judgement turn like 5 or so. was an easy 2-0. thats not including the whips or other DoJs i had for this deck
if the player is smart when playing a control deck they wont flashback souls untill after a DoJ...
then switched to U/B control, the Curse of Death's Hold, as all it needed, with counters of the enhancements.
lol Curse of Death's Hold is a 5 mana disenchant vs this deck that can have 2 honor the pure/Intang Virtue out before turn 5
also, for anyone interested in building a budget version of this deck, the 3rd of the 3 of us playing this deck at fnm ran my same list minus the planeswalkers and add 2 o-ring and 3 kill spells. he went 4-2.
its deffinately not unbeatable by any means. like i said in the description, it gets in there fast, against decks that dont main 4+ sweepers. but if they dont get to one its easy sailing. the crusaders and o-ring come in against UB. they were close games for me, but its hard to get around a batterskull. im thinking about dropping the gut shots for more orings. but honestly, against delver gut shot just wrecks. so idk what to drop.
yeah but i almost through in a Grand Ambolisher just cause i hate when these decks cast their pumps on my turn =P ha
but with Sorin and your flash back only needing one swamp, really something to think about going splashing something to help with sweeps
the only thing thats cast on opponents turn is haunting. grand abolisher is a dead card against this deck. thalia on the other hand would do some damage. i played against someone main decking her. for some reason he blocked my traveler with it. I went....OKAY! lol
the mana base worked good for me. i think 15 white sources is fine. given the choice i always play my walkers b4 my hero so i have a fatty after sweepers and a way of putting dudes out for free after them also
yeah i'd say just run a tragic slip or something, could be better then gut in the long run. 2 mana to play, and i doubt you'd care if one token dies haha.
i like gut shot better cuz it doesnt slow me down. id have to leave mana open for slip.
what was the UB's win condition ?
batterskull backed up with karn.
can i get some input on my new zombies deck. Any imput would help. link- http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=291023
Great deck, but i feel champion of the parish with gather the townsfolk is just sick as shit because it curves out so well. I suggest putting 2-3 evolving wilds for the lands because the mana base is just terrible for W/B in standard. Thins out the deck as well. And teks09 suggestion is just... terrible as hell. Taking out honor will just make the deck so subpar. Master's calls wasnt played in standard was due to a fact .... IT HAS NO EVASION. And any good player WILL play around a boardsweeper, be it Day of judgement or black sun zenith. All in all great deck, i believe it is a tier 1.5 deck. Lingering souls...... too sick of a card.
and the fact that you can suggest Moorland haunt... wow facepalm. 8 creatures just wouldn't make a moorland haunt worth playing in the deck, where the mana base is terrible as hell , splashing blue will just make the early game even worse.
I originally ran champions, but I found that he was dead without a t2 gather so I took him out for traveler. Another reason I like traveler is because opponents will let him thru a lot of times instead of blocking him to keep me on the ground for 1-2 more turns. He's like whites veridian emissary. Yea I always play around a sweeper. I never drop hero until I see one. Unless I'm playing a deck that I know doesn't main one of them like pod or delver. Thanks for the suggestions.
ever think about SBing Swords like War and Peace and Feast and Famine?... sword on a doom traveler after it eats their face a few turns is kinda lulz
were actually play testing a sword of war and peace tonite. one will end up in the main. but were still trying to figure out what to cut
I like wilds a lot but I can honestly say I've never been in a situation where I needed one mana of a different color. Because the black is just a splash, 10 black sources works great. I like not running it because it. Ever puts me back a turn. I like always being able to go land spell land spell. Not land go, eot sack wilds.
I can see where you are coming from. For me i am currently running Chapin's B/W list where there is champion , doomed, hero, and blade splicer. And increasing devotion is played instead of elspeth due to the fact it powers up champion in late game , whereas elspeth doesn't. As for evolving wilds, it is there when you just can't hit your black for lingering souls/sorin when you are unlucky. I definitely aint running 4 wilds as you have said, it puts you back a turn and this deck wants to cast most of the things as early as possible. I'm still testing out and so far it seems good. The only problem is people will start to sideboard rachet bombs which kills this deck easily in the early part of the game. And mainboard Thalia(mainly humans) also disrupt our plans easily.
i really dont mind ratchet bombs at all. in fact i like to play against them. cuz they blast all my dudes in one turn, yes, but its the equivalent to an opponenet mana leaking a bird, and then playing a titan when they tap out. oh, u just used ur removal for my 3 1/1 spirits? well, in that case....hero? lol. also, for decks maining bomb i will side in the crusader. if u wanna waste ur turn getting out ur ratchet bomb u do it, but ur gonna take 4 minimum to the face. lol. thalia is the +"{1}"+ card im afraid of. notice the HUGE emphasis on 1. i can take sweepers all day. whatever. but when u play a dude that just says, "hey, i know ur on the draw and ur already a turn behind me, but now ima need you to be 2 turns behind me," i get pretty scared. if the meta starts boarding her a lot, i may board more creature base. like throw in one more crusader and 2 geist monk
if thalia starts to see alot more play simply main some gut shots, you would have to pay 2 life and a mana but its better to kill her fast so she doesnt set you a turn behind, if you kill her the turn they play her ur up a turn in response, kinda dirty.
agreed. she is gonna be my bane. i just know it.
I really like the consistency, I used to run k-red goblins that had consistency like this. Only think I'd do is side stony silence for rachet. I made a W/B token deck, with a little more board control. Any advice would be great. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=292430
Lol, Jparks. "i can take sweepers all day" didn't you say you lost to a mainboard 4 suns? Also. I would drop a tribute and add another o-ring. That's just me though
i actuly really like you deck its very similar to my version, just mine has alittle more control cards in it. tell me what you think: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=292285
Nice deck. Can you please check out mine and help me make it better? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=290805
yes, by i can take sweepers all day that means i can handle 2 or 3 in a game. but when an opponent has 4 rotating black suns and plays it seven times in one game u just lose. u might as well just put the damn thing on isochron scepter
you cant...black sun isnt an instant
He was making the reference that having 4 rotating black sun's zenith is like being able to isochron scepter it, and being able to to cast it at will. I'm pretty sure Jparks is well aware that you can't put a black sun's zenith on an isochron scepter. Nor would you want to, because then X=0.
all i can say is, wow... this build is awesome! its very well built
much appreciated. it has its flaws. but i will say consistency is nowhere near being one of them
This deck flows nicely, well done! :)
Typically do not like token decks but this looks far too fun to dislike. Well done.
Have you considered running skirsdag high priest? A friend of mine is running a similar deck and runs really well with the rest of the deck from what I have seen.
I like him better in the control variant. This deck makes 2-4 dudes at least every turn and swings that many every turn. I'd never wanna have to leave the priest and 2 other dudes untapped. I think he's broken as hell in gb undying. It's just wrong to altar reap ur vorapede and then tap him and 2 dudes and make a 5'5 on the end of someones turn. Lol
What do you think of siding in a Thraben Doomsayer, or White Sun Zenith to combat things like ratchet bombs and black sun's? With your honor of the pure and intagible virtues out they could be devastating...
I originally tried the thraben doomsayers but found he was almost always never helpful. I never get down to fateful hour and he's too slow in my build. He works great with the champion/ human build.
hey really like your deck. if you have anny suggestions feel free to comment thanx http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=292911
Very nice! A little expensive but still.... Thumbs up :)
u can do a budget build with no walkers for around 120 or less. heros are 18 apiece. thats 72. honor is 2.50 a piece, thats 82. chapel is 10 a piece. thats 122. vaults are 3 a piece. thats right under 130 dollars. now u start trading around or trading in ur old stuff and u can acquire most of it easily cuz everything else is just comons and uncommons. u cant tell me you dont have 4 doomed traveler laying around. lol. honestly i think its the cheapest budget build of the new rise decks. all the new tribals mana base alone is close to 100 bucks. u know what 4 dark slick shore and 4 drowned catacombs run these days? but yes the top tier list is gonna be pricey due to sorin being a chase rare
WoW, that has to be really fast, besides those little bastards are gonna get fat in just a couple of turns! Very nice, got nothing to add here! Could everyone who is reading this have a look at my first EDH deck? I am new to this type of play. Basically I just need at least your opinion if everything I did is legal to play in EDH style. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=292576 Thanks in regard.
the deck is fast. people have been crowding me during matches watching my games and all my plays and i cant tell you how many times people have gone "why didnt u play hero or why didnt u play sorin on turn 4" u want my honest opinion? cuz i didnt need to. why didnt faeries play its spells on its turn? because it didnt need to. my nut hand, imo, is turn one traveler. turn 2 gather. turn 3 linger. turn 4 honor and flash back linger. turn 5 anthem anthem swing game. as mentioned before, i will cram a hero down your throat all day if i dont think ur playing sweepers, but honestly, ive won games with multiple heros just sittin in my hand looking pretty.
Damn, I don't think I want to face deck unless I got a DoJ in my opening hand :D And I am not sure that would help haha. Awesome, once again.
Hi, I really like this idea a lot. It's Important when you're playing a best of 3 that you go all out and try to win that game one so that you have the upper hand for game 2. I didn't have time to complete my deck before my last FNM so i had a useless pile of junk with 2 Sorins. Winner played Blue White Aggro with almost no new cards and maybe another threat: Sword of War and Peace. Maybe drop the 1 Tribute for 1 Revoke Existence? May need it vs Inkmoth, a Sword, Tempered Steel...just a suggestion :)
personally I'm a big fan of surgical extraction too, most peoples decks rotate around a few cards, having someone Mana Leak you turn 2, then pay 2 life to take away their counters is always a good thing...Rachet Bomb?? clear my tokens? okay 2 life no more Rachet Bombs for you... hope you're running a lot more chuffa sweeps just to handle a deck like this.
thanx dude for the advice abouth the two card swap helped a great deal. so far 8-0. i guess my deck is the second working version of the correct way to do the W/B tokens correctly its really killer. thats why i re-named it w/b killer tokens. its str8 BEAST!!!!!! just hope it gets the reckonition it deserves ya know but thanx agein much apprciated. any one wlse looking to see a hard hitting deck check mine out suggestions welcome thanx http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=292911
Surgical wrecks a lot of stuff. It's my favorite card from that set. I think my sideboard is goin to make or break me this weekend. Me and the shop owners are gonna sleeve up the decks from last weeks SCG top 8 and see how it fares and what 2 cards if any are sb options are against it. From there were gonna make mine for this weekend. I think mental misstep and surgical are given. I will post up the actual sb when we get it done tomorrow
Same man, I think in all honesty when it comes to smaller scale competitive play, it is better to SB against what people usually play at that specific spot (that's if you want to stomp it), Side boarding gets alot more technical in larger scare tournaments with hundreds of applicants. Good luck, im using a similar deck so hopefully this build can be competitive! Let me know what youère thinking for ur SB before the weekend if you can.
you are playing tokens without elspeth!!!!!?
i know this is gonna be hard to believe but shes too slow. i may work on siding her against certain matchups. but u have NOOOO idea how much me and the shop owners have been testing this deck the past 3 days. i can honestly say taking her out for 2 orings has helped alot
This deck is rugged.
how many decks have you built that made top page. oh. ok. you wanna play test anytime let me know. i'll gladly hop on lackey. the deck just wins. yet its rugged? you going to an scg iq this weekend? if so let me know where. i'd like to know your results afterward
Rugged = tough = raw = sick = good = both of you must be from different coasts, he was giving you a compliment.... Anyways, nice deck. It's not original, but honestly how can it be? It's a dedicated BW aggro. token deck. I was running 'almost' exactly the same build and it wrecked face pretty well, except against Solar Flare (damn Elesh...). I've now reverted it from tokens to spirit tribal, with Solar Flare-ish attributes. If you don't do well at the IQ try throwing blue in for the control variant, I think in the long run it will hold up better. Best of luck to you at your IQ!
In that case I truly apologize. I thought you were trolling the deck. Sorry man. Yea I'm from way south so when I hear rugged I think tattered and torn crap. like old work pants that you need to throw away. Sorry I took it the wrong way and jumped on you dude.
Yeah, I was complimenting your deck! I'm from the west coast, and over here it means something akin to 'awesome'. It's all good! I love token decks; something about destroying someone with a small army make me so happy.
You mentionned that you often had more or less use for the Heroes. Were you thinking of replacing them with something else?
i wouldnt replace it in the main cuz she alone is like shrine, it can possibly be a win con. in some games i do side one out. primarily just against mono green or infect and i bring the crusaders in. shes too good to not be a 4of main
im gonna run this deck this friday lol seems legit and fun or im gonna play my b/w tokens ill post my list once i get home from school
I love the B/W Token deck. I am running one too and it is a beast I like Champion of the parish as it can increase the speed. Nothing better than turn 1 champ, turn 2 gather the town folks to pump up your champion. people really go out of their way to get rid of Champion and my 1 mana champion usually takes 2 or 3 of their mana to get rid of. I have been thinking of adding some shrines to my deck. Really helps against ratchet bombs. You have a shrine out and they use ratchet bomb with no counters to wipe out all your tokens then you sac shrine for X more tokens.
the champion/human build is potentially 1 more turn faster. turn 1 champ, 2 gather, 3, gather, 4 honor honor. notice i said potentially. counters hurt that deck a lot more because it disrupts not only them getting dudes, but keeps champ at bay. i actually commented on someones build on here that had the right champion build. idk if u can view peoples previous comments, but if so go thru my old posts and look for the guy i said had a bw champion build that i would send people to as a reference. i wanna find him and then find someone with the superfriend/control build so people interested in tokens can view all 3 builds of it.
Too many trolls, too many trolls! Elspeth seems like a Prime Candidate for B/W Tokens, But not necessarily against certain decks. She lands, you use her + 2 gain a bit of life, then she dies/gets removed. -2 , she for sure dies and u have 3 1/1's for a 5 drop. She may b e good in certain situations but not all. Permanent removal is slightly more important in this format. An her -5 ability wipes out Intangible Virtue and Honor of the Pure. Nuff Said.
that last statement is the prime reason i didnt like her. id get her to her ultimate, but if i bombed, then i would actually get rid of more helpful stuff on my place. the deck deos fine without her. i like her more in the control version
Okay... This deck sucks. oh cool you can get tokens out... RATCHET BOMB BITCH solar flare can easily stop this deck in its tracks. with all the counters and removal solar flare has B/W tokens won't get any play then a elesh gets dropped. GG NOOB. wonder why no B/W token decks are being played in the top 32 for standard?? cuz the deck is crap. get good j(ordan)(s)parks
one more person thats gay for ratchet bomb. i guess you forgot surgical and purify the grave were cards. when chris wallace, we all know who he is, and brad shephard, if u dont know who he is, he finished 76th in the world last year, both pilot solar flare against me and we go half and hlaf and they both say its a good matchup thats 50/50 both ways i think i take their opinion over yours. wow, there were no tokens in the top 32 6 days after a set released. how many people had the cards to build this deck 6 days after a release? alright then. until you become ranked higher than 76th in the world, or better than chris wallace, your argument is invalid. get good and get a life while ur at it.
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here ill post my superfriends b/w tokens it will take me a min
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=293907 heres my superfriends deck list wanna help me out with if i know it needs some work but the side bored is gonna flip to ur deck to go faster. and i will be running this deck tomarrow i would love some help with it thanx
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try some nihil spellbomb to replace the gradigger's cage u can draw a card and it blow opponent graveyard
Yea don't pay attention to that sb. It's just random crap. The only deffinates so far are 2 crusaders, 3 surgicals, X mental misstep, and a sword or 2. We're gonna tear from lunch til 6 and put together a rough draft sideboard with the cards we want in it. Then we may adjust some numbers bases on pt dka results from day 1 to prepare for the meta
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=293907 btw i pretty much remade my b/w tokens its way more of the control type and works way better take a look and post comments because i am going to be running this deck tonight
I would drop a shrine for another Elspeth... i ran this deck at the Thursday night Deck Test and it got owned,
What if you added a few Signal Pest as 1 drops. battle cry sure would be Nice for 1
we tested out the pest but didnt like him due to the fact that he doesnt get a pump from 8/11 anthems.
i pick shrine over elspeth any day. u cant pop an elspeth on the end of turn to swing game on ur turn. lol. weve been playtesting the crap outta this thing. online and offline. if ur on lackey and see username 'jp' thats us testing this deck. lol. thats all weve done the past week to get it ready for durham tomorrow. we initally had elspeth in there, but we took her out for oblivion ring. i can honestly say its helped a lot. i cant tell you how many times i have o ringed a blocker or their o ring to get back an anthem to swing game. one game, i oringed their o ring to get my sorin back, go an emblem and swong game. hahahaha. he pooped a brick.
Add elspeth to gain a shitload of life and to pump out even more tokens giving sorin time to make more emblems
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Just wanted to know of u have any outher suggestions for my w/b tokens deck b4 I play in a tournament tonight
Question for you, do you think this deck has any chance of seeing tourny play or is it trash like my decks seem to be? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=267696
u mean mine or yours? cuz mine has proven itself many ttimes. if u mean yours idk. depends on ur local meta really
Well I guess I can see why Elspeth might be a little too slow for this deck, but I must be stupid because I just cant figure out why Sorin is in this deck. Sure he's a little cheaper than Elspeth but that's about it. Obviously, he's in the deck for his second ability, to create an Emblem to give creatures +1/+0. But other than that ability, he seems better for control than aggro tokens. I mean, the tokens he makes don't even fly, and if you just trying to use him to make emblems, you'll never use his final ability (which is sick). Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that he doesn't seem to be necessary in this deck. There are other cards that would make suitable if not better substitutes for a card that's currently going for $50+ like Mikaeus or splashing green for Gavony Township. There's probably others, but that's just what I came up with off the top of my head. Let me know what you think about Sorin and his contribution to this deck. Thanks
hes sick in this deck man. hes a surprise anthem. heres an example of why hes so mean. im playing pod in the super iq a couple days ago. i go sorin emblem blah blah swing. next turn some shenanigans and roll him up. this is where it got fun. i topdeck sorin number 2. so i roll mine down, get emblem number two, play another and roll him down and swung a total of over 30 dmg. :)
I love token decks, and I also love black/white decks, so I REALLY like this here's my token deck http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=288112
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revoke existence in the side board maybe? good against swords
the more of think of the three versions i think a combo version might be the best. champion and 3 shrine's and 3 Sorin basically your build minus the Hero blade and adding the champion
Looks like an awesome build. Looking at the Dark Ascension block I had thought of doing the same thing and damned if I don't jump on here to see one on the top decks lol. Looks fast. If you have the time, I'd like some advice on a new version of T2 Zombie using the Dark Ascension block as well. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=295316 Thanks for any help you could give me!
Dude! I am just super impressed! SO simple and so hard hitting, do you actually manage to kill the opponent till 4th turn? As I can see from you champ report you didnt face DoJ builds and Black Sun's Zenith ones? Do you think this deck will manage? I think I will make myself something like this, definately putting a +1 here! Do you mind checking my EDH I recently made? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=295976 Thanks
every sweeper in the format is tough, but i really feel like this deck isnt too terribly hurt by any of them except black sun. solely due to its rotating effect. damn zeniths. the other sweepers are boom and done. then u recover. this is why u save ur flashback souls til u see ur sweep and then recover really fast and laugh. black sun is just awful to play against tho. this deck cant wiin on turn 4. its not possible. but it does consistently win between turn 5-7. just on the brink of ella deush. or elesh norn whatever u refer to her as.
also i played against a lot of sweepers. every deck i played against had one except the Uw destiny list i lost to in top 8 and the mono green i beat. infect had black sun, pod had bombs and norn, both esper lists had day and ratchet in the main. and both also had norn in the main. its easy to beat them if u play around them.
ya my control b/w version went 2/2 lost 2/1 glissa/ with ratchet bomb wreaked me soo hard also lost 2/1 to bant pod couldnt hit a doj or orign to deal with elesh norn :( so i just build this version i cant wait to play it friday it runs so good.
u should NOT play day in this deck at all. there is positively absolutely no point in any match up where a day should help u. we swarm them and they die. why would we day? thats like stone blade not playing batterskull. WHY?! lol. i really think the deck does fine with 2 o ring in the main and a slight bit more removal in the side. also, with 2 sword options u should be gravy.
I like the sideboard improvements since i last checked. 4x surgical is genius.
hehehehehe. shenanigans sir. yes it is. and people always fall for it. ive never had someone not pop a ratch bomb cuz they thought i had surgical in hand. thats why it works. i guess people forgot it was a card. oh well, good for me. i cant tell u how amazing surgical was at the super iq. lets put it this way, i never dealt with 2 sweepers in one game. lol. i always sided out the same things for them to. 1 traveler, 1 shrine, 1 midnight haunting, and one hero. this tactic worked pretty well for me. all my spells are 4 of so dropping some to 3 of doesnt hurt a bit.
No one ever countered them? No Mental Missteps? Or extracted your extractions? Sounds like your control opponents were really dropping the ball lol
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i wait until they tap out for sure. they dont side in mis step cuz i only have 4 one drops
This is almost exactly like my list except a few things. I arrived at my local FNM with a non-standard deck similar to this and made it standard in likfe ten minutes, Played through four rounds and ended with a record of 3-0-1. I did that good without a sideboard! I would have been unbeaten, but the guy I had a draw with was playing slower when he knew he was beat. Judges gave him a warning after the match. Check my deck out and tell me what you think. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=299140
I was just wondering how you felt about replacing 4 Midnight Haunting with 4 Bladesplicer. Also, I only have 2 Hero of Bladehold, so I was thinking of placing in a 4th Sorin, Lord of Innistrad and a 3rd Oblivion Ring. Any thoughts?
As I jus mentioned, I've been playtesting splicer. Still working on squeezing it in there but I know I want it to be at least a 3 of main
this is B/W tokens the wrong way, lol. check out my sorin, lord of innistrad deck for some help
lol. Very brazen of you considering how badly this deck would beat yours. This isn't a good way to get attention man
Wtf are u talking about? First of all, if ur sorin build was so amazing the. Why'd u take it down. Secondly if it was so good why didn't u top 8 after going undefeated at a super qualifier. Why didn't u make it to top 4 of both game days with ur token deck? Guess what...I did. Suck it son!
I'm really liking this deck. Seems really fast and efficient. This is the kind of deck I wouldn't mind building for standard play myself.
Man when I saw lingering souls, I built this deck immediatley. It is very similar to yours but I went: -2 shrines, -2 hero, +1 vault, +3 tragic slip. But i like this a lot. Nice
This deck dont need spot removal. He can just overnumber with tokens. Your opponent will realize soon that he must block this 4/4 tokens or die at turn 4.
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hmmm -4 shrine +2 Timely reinforcements (this hels for when you dont have your doomed traveler turn 1. - land your honor of pure, intangible virtue, and then put your timely reinforcements to work boosting any hp loss and bunch of 3/3-4/4) +2 Gather the townsfolks (nice way to end a match turn 4) I would defnly main deck timely reinforcements. about your side... take off gut shot. you dont need spot removal. Your deck should be focusing boosting your tokens, not focusing on removing oponents delver. Soon or later your oponent will learn that he must block this deck to try to not die at turn 4 because this is the actual fastest deck at T2.
gut shot is a staple cards in all aggro deck sideboards atm.... just saying.
Also, shrine is just too good to cut. However, if I cut anything from the main it'd probly be -1 shrine, -1 hero, -1 haunting for 3x blade splicer. That's the only changes I've been toying with
I like your deck a lot man. Do you find that running only 2 O-rings is enough direct control of other player's decks in standard? I'm still trying to find where to draw the line on control cards within a deck.
I love this deck alot. Do you only use 3 Sorin because what is available to you? If not, would you put in for a 4th Sorin and what would be taken out.
I play a variant on this deck, and I have the Sorin's available to me, I tried 2, 3, and 4 and I found 3 to be the perfect number, in most decks, you don't run 4 of a given planeswalker, I run mono black Sorin's Vengeance and that only runs 3 Sorins as well.
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=300846 can you please look at my B/W token deck, my budget is unfortunately much lower then yours but it is mostly similar.
Hey made new list let me know what u think
I really love your deck, I've been running B/R Vampires and I've been doing okay, going 3-2 consistantly, but last Friday, game 5, I got beat in a stupid mistake by a W/B token deck like this, with Sorin, and since I'm a sucker for Sorin (I have a playset of both Sorin's and 2 foil, kinda obsessed here), I was thinking.. ok that's it, sick of seeing it, I need to utilize them, I had some ideas, of going G/B/W for Gavony Township, but ehh after playing my Sorin's Vengeance Rebound, it's hard to effeciently run 3 colors and be fast, so I decided to go B/W, thanks for the ideas, and I plan on building something similar.
Jparks, I am thinking ahead for this deck. Now I am bringing this deck to Starcity Buffalo NY the 27th with Sublime Archangel instead of Hero. Do you think the deck will be as strong when honor the pure rotates? Because I have been thinking about this and I really hope Ravinica follows up bc I know i love tokens. Just wanted to know if you think this deck will stand up without honors bc I know they are important to this deck mech.