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*infinite.Also Vizkopa guildmage can help you achieve the same thing if you want to increase your chances of getting it off.
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I love this combo, but am completely confused as to whether or not it ends in a draw. This is the current debait: http://www.mtgvault.com/dmksatan/decks/infinate-combo-3-vamp-bite/
well its illegal , but no it stops when your opponents life drops to zero... thats how people i know have played it
Me too, I have a deck with it, but, if you open the link you can see that the person, i think mentions he is a judge, and it ends in a draw. Do you have a credible link that can show me its illegal? I guessing something has changed since last year on the ruling for loops.
benny boy777 , i know , im trying to make this mono black tho , but your right about that
Ok I didn't know it was supposed to be mono black. Then no Vizkopa guildmage won't work. But if it's going to be a mono black vampire deck vampire nocturnus might be a good option.
yeah thats true , ill side board it , i own 4 of those, i just took them out of my vampire control deck
You might also want to add a bit more mana source cards in to be sure that you can play your combo when you have it
any suggestions like more crypt ghast ? or pawns of ulamog
need pestilence also about the debate, if you in some way interrupt the stack with damage it ends it right there target dies cause of new stack starting with no targets
okay word , thanks
seems good, id play a set of crypt ghast because its just really good for production. i dont see how it could end in a draw, you simple gain all of your opponents life, which ends the game when they die. since the game ends and you have life remaining, you win. dont know where the whole "draw" issue came from.
yeah thats what im thinking.... im never really researched it but .. its too bad because my friends will have to deal with it when i get the combo lol
Well, i still use my deck in casual play and treat it as game over when life hits zero, however, I just wish there was some way to clear this thing up, because I dont want to go to a tournament and be ambarrassed when i am missinformed.http://www.mtgvault.com/archangel72/decks/pestilence/
the way i understand it, when the vizkopa blood combo became standard it was legel since there are no bans in standard. i see why it would get banned in modern or other formats, but i dont see it as creating a draw. like it literally doesnt add up. banned? maybe. draw? doubt it
It's not an illegal combo. It can be countered by say, a skullcrack, riot control, safe passage, druid's deliverance. Things like that. It would be countered before it started. As soon as you nullify the life gain or loss, the combo fizzles. Think of it like this. Each one triggers each other's ability. Therefore since it is a step by step trigger, it is not an illegal infinite combo, as the trigger stops when the opponent's life hits 0, there is no more life to take. Hope that helps. Pretty much though what it comes down to is YES it is legal. YES the opponent loses the game once their life hits 0. YES it is VERY hard to do, because once an opponent sees you setting it up they WILL pull out all the stops...
yeah i agree with Benny . but i dont play standard , i just causal play with my friends