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you can turn one an emrakul, it is more consistent turn three though.
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I like this kind of deck a lot because it is so unexpected most of the times.In my opinion Unburial Rites and Thorough the Breach got too high cmc. As you mentioned in the description you want to pull off your combo as early as possible. Thus I would suggest focusing more on getting Goryo's Vengeance fast.This can be done by adding Shred Memory which you can transmute into it. There are also some blue or blue/black 2cmc transmute cards, though a monoblack one might be more consistent.Another problem is Emrakul since you cannot bring him back from the graveyard (he will always be shuffeled back into the library). A powerful red legendary creature which you can also exile for Fury of the Horde would be helpful instead.Also you only have one option to discard Griselbrand (Faithless Looting). Maybe there are more option for discard.I hope this helps. As I said, I like the idea of this decks. However I feel like there is room for improvement.Edit:Examples for suitable red legendaries:Myojin of Infinite Rage (destroy all lands, opponent won't be able to deal with him)Nicol Bolas (opponent loses his hand!)ThraximundarI strongly recommend Nicol Bolas.
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Myojin won't work, it isn't being cast.
You're right, sorry. Doesn't have to be cast but it must be played from your hand.
Actually (and not that it matters, I'm just detailed ^_^ ) It's been errata'd, "played from hand" means the same thing as "cast from hand".
It does need to be cast,the word cast is on the card. To the point of the deck- unfortunately, this list is far from competitive.I have been working g to make a modern viable emrakul reanimator list for nearly a year, and the best I've been able to get it close to the Tin Fists list that was played in a recent event.Essentially, its super fun, but not super consistent.
Ok, you win again :-) Thanks for clearing that up
you win by turn 2 most of the time never play Fury of the Horde for it cmc so this deck is fine i dnt think you need 4 tentacruel though 2 should be fine add in another 2 Fury of the Horde instead or 1 horde and 1 cheap counter spellt1 faithless pitch grislebrand and something not tentacruelt2 goryo vengeance grisi swing, main phase 2: pay ife dig for Fury of the Horde pitch 2 red cards swing again main phase 3 do it again main phase 4 do it again
As a side note, you can cheat Obzedat into play by exiling him using his ability before Goryo triggers. I know that works in standard with Whip of Erebos.
Also, this deck needs Liliana of the Veil... Because why not XD
If you want to try another route, consider a one-of Godo, bandit warlord and one of the swords...
Also, if you add a sac engine like smallpox or a cartel aristo or really, anything, you can reuse your legendaries since goryos only exiles at end of turn. Then add snapcasters and reuse it :D
how do you get a turn 2 emrakul with a reanimator deck? emrakul doesnt go to the graveyard
Goryo's vengeance is an instant. You respond to the emrakul shuffle trigger and snag him before it resolves
i had the same question. thanks for the clarification ninjastyle
I still don't really get it.. I assumed that it entering the grave auto triggered the shuffle so it doesn't technically go onto the stack does it? I always have issues understanding the word play on certain cards..
no it says that he enters the grave, then his trigger goes on the stack, then instant speed the vengeance, it goes on stack and resolves first, then tentacles trigger goes on stack no target it fizzles out.
The emrakul trigger still resolves, it just resolves with goryo's vengeance in the yard instead of emrakul
And yes, the emrakul shuffle is a trigger, and all triggers use the stackHere is my current emrakul list. It is very similar to the one played at a recent large event,but I switched the mana base a bit.http://www.mtgvault.com/ninjastyle612/decks/fists/
yeah, i guess, i didn't think that all through
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turn 1 emrakul is typically bad, as its annihilator trigger does nothingif you are on the play, and gets a land and maybe a one drop on the draw. The only time a turn one Emrakul is even reasonable is against Affinity, singe the annihilator is relevant. Otherwise you empty you hand and go into topdeck mode against an opponent with 5 life and a full grip. That being said, its still fun to see the look on their face as they take 15 on the first turn.....lol
yeah. it sets up your turn 2 Emrakul :)
ive actually missed doing that....turn 2 Grizz into 2 fury, could not find the 3rd for the win. Thats part of the inconsistency of this particular reanimator build. Its silly good when it works, but it makes you look silly when it doesnt.
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn actiavtes its ability as soon as it hits the graveyard. Would an instant still work? Anyways... my deck turn two beats your deck!!! if i name the card. lol. http://www.mtgvault.com/mmmjkx2/decks/returned-and-never-again/
yeah it would
Not really.. It'd slow it down yeah, but it wouldn't necessarily beat it. They do have removal, and they can sb more removal or counter spells.
Roil is kind of worthless. You'd probably never hit four mana just hanging around. Echoing Truth does it better. If you're looking to bouncing Emrakul or Big Gris before the sac trigger, use Unsummon.
you can't unsummon emrakul, has protection from colored spells, unsummon has to target him, so doesn't work, actually, that being said, i'm not sure you can use goryo's vengeance on him either, it being black and requires a target
Goryo's Vengeance works on him because he only has protection from colored spells when he is on the battlefield.
alright, wasn't sure how that interaction would play out, thanks for clearing that up
Right now your only win condition is Goryo, which makes the deck very vulnerable for graveyard hate. As the deck is now you will need to find two Goryo's to win the game, or be extremely lucky with Fury of the Horde. Chances of that seems a bit slim, unless you get to play completely fish-bowl. But you will struggle with that when sideboard comes into play in round 2/3.A couple of extra win conditions would vastly improve the chances of the deck. Either with Through the Breach or as a Tin Fist.http://www.mtgvault.com/roar/decks/tin-fist/
Think he means Fist of Suns, which, if you are gonna play that, you need to mess with the mana base pretty good. Through the Breach is a good idea, though.
The card is Fist of Sun, but the deck concept is called "Tin Fist" as an arch typical Modern deck. By combining Fist of Sun with Pentad Prism you can achieve the required mana base more easily.The version I posted for Tin Fist was featured by Cardkingdom in their New Year edition.