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This deck revolves around alabaster leech, and using it as a lockdown card. This deck is mostly black, with white and red splashed in.The combo of the deck is bazaar trader+ painters servant+ Alabaster leech, and if facing white, + contamination and bitterblossomany suggestions on improvement of this theme would be greatly appreciated.Please comment. :)I also have a newer version of this that I think is better.http://www.mtgvault.com/kazzong/decks/leeched-lockdown-20/
ok, this is a (not so) simple lockdown deck. best case scenario is a turn 1 alabaster leech, a turn 2 bazaar trader, and then a turn 3 complete lockout with a painter's servant and giving the leech to your opponant. after that you have all the time in the world to get the heavy hitting cards out, like the shade, or the fiend, because that opponant can't play spells anymore because they all cost at least one white mana in addition to the other colors, and they can't pay the white. :) if at all possible tutor for the lili and use her ability to get more swamps for the shade or exsanguinate. :)oh, and you put crippling blight on the leech so it can't die as a blocker, and can't hurt you as an attacker.
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The idea is great and it's well executed. What perplexes me is the amount of mana, which is surprisingly low. You got a lot of 5 drops, and a lot of x mana costs. Maybe two or three lands could help you out. Also, you could use more tutors. Gamble for red and vampiric/demonic/diabolic for black. Enlightened for white, but would only work on painter's servant. And ultimately, 4 dark rituals. If it's a lockdown, you should lock the opponent quickly or else he gets to play normally.
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Ok, so what would you suggest that I take out for some of the tutors and lands? I can't take out any creatures, because they all serve a specific purpose, aside from the fiend of the shadows, and even that can be useful. What changes would you make here?
I honestly would take out liliana. Or leave only 1 at best. Let's try this: -3 liliana, -1 exsanguinate (or murder, your choice really), -2 diabolic revelation +2 dark ritual, +1 demonic tutor, +1 vampiric tutor, +1 gamble, +1 land (I'd go with a city of brass or a gemstone mine, but again your choice) It should be faster
Made the changes. I really want this deck now... I wonder how effective this deck ACTUALLY could be. Can't wait to actually put it together.
Ok, so I still gotta ask: Why the dark ritual? I know it is a great ramp card, but I honestly can't see how it helps me gets my key pieces out, since none of the lock cards are black. Also, (and I am not trying to be rude or anything, but) you do know that Liliana is the killing card here, combined with the shade or the exsanguinate, right? Her ultimate ability quadruples the mana of my swamps. But, I will take your suggestion, and make those changes, and see of it runs faster. Admittedly though I don't have the money to spend on either of those tutors right now.
If you want to win with Liliana and exsanguinate, that's a totally different deck which you can implement without the lockdown part of it. It's a great way to win, sure, but a deck like that would have no need for a lock combo. But since you're running a lockdown deck, once you lock the opponent, there's no hurry. You could simply win by killing whatever creature the opponent might have, and finish him with nantuko shade. Remember that if your lock starts, you don't have to have all that black mana. You could easily win with whatever swamp you had. Then again, it's just my opinion, I'm not offended if you don't think is good or if you'd rather go your own way.
Not saying your suggestion is bad. I was just curious about why you suggested to pull the Liliana is all. Like I said above, I will probably at least modify or for now, to see how it runs like that. And if I like it then it will stay like that. :)
Hey, thanks for all the comments on my deck, I think it is almost to the front page and I just joined 2 days ago! Happy day! OK, I've played against Bazaar Trader decks before, let me throw down a few annoying cards you could use... Abyssal Persecutor Mefarious Lych Any Eye creature Dance of the Dead/Immortal Coil+Bojuka Bog Mark of Mutiny/Dominus of Fealty/Bringer of the Red Dawn/Act of Treason etc... Permanently give you control over something your opponents once controlled. Archdemon of Greed (you need humans in your deck) Cinder Giant Steel golem/Grind Monitor There, that's it. Those all go well with bazaar trader. Now that I've put so much work into researching what could go well in this deck, I'm going to shamelessly ask anyone who sees this to check out my decks! I would appreciate some comments on my decks. I just created an account here two days ago and two of them are already looking like they may be front page material judging by the comments. I just need more people! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=381549 - Fat Fat Fatty, based around cheating out the biggest most unfair creatures and big creature combos in the game. It wins in multiplayer. Lots. 10 points to whoever suggests the best 40th creature card for the side deck, and I'm challenging people to build similar decks here. - http://forums.mtgvault.com/showthread.php?t=7276 http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=381605 - A combo (not infinite) deck that can wipe a multiplayer table just by declaring one attacker, your creatures don't even have to deal combat damage, the table dies during the declare attackers phase. Also has insane lifegain and card draw given the proper card combos. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=381596 - Mono black zombes with Deathtouch/First Strike/Swampwalk/Regenerate! Black plays like green! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=381965 The most recent variation on my first ever deck, mono green enchantments. With the right cards out, you can play your ENTIRE deck in oen turn, then swing and watch your opponents vaporize! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=381598 - The only Modern legal deck I've posted thus far, based around 1cmc creatures playing quickly, maybe pumping out a few tokens, then boosting them up with OVERWHELMING STAMPEDE!
I need help. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=382095. I want this to be the best it can be. The deck description will give you some details... This deck is white. lol.
You know how to make this deadly? Put in Mana Web. With that you don't need to put in Painter's Servant. Just give them the Alabaster Leech and they would definitely have a hard time casting spells. Once they tap one mana, all lands with the same kind are tapped, + they need to play that extra white mana. Even against white decks, even if they pay the extra white mana, all their other white mana are tapped. To be more sure that your opponent would have a hard time with those leeches, use 2 Alabaster Leech and 2 Ruby Leech instead. You could even turn this into Black/Red by using 4 Ruby Leech instead. Or pure Red by using 4 Gamble as a tutor. Overall, nice deck Kazzong! I love your ideas. Keep it up!~ I hope you could give me short advices too on these decks on your free time: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=377851 - The END http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=381656 - Hack http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=378207 - Lux Divina http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=372895 - Forever Again! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=378193 - The Time has Come Thanks again~
I will probably side board the ruby leech, to be swapped for alabaster if my opponent plays white. Thanks for looking at this deck, and the comments and compliments on it. Hoping to build thus and a couple of other decks that I have designed on here. Fairly soon.
If you can find a way, try and squeeze a few of the blue leeches into your sideboard. It'll give you an edge over a third color, you can play it with your City of Brass (since you seem to be using it right now solely to power out spells with Fiend of the Shadows), and blue really is the color that can screw you over by countering whatever it wants; blue's also not well known for mana acceleration, so it basically slows down their control by one turn a pop. The green leech is too much of a threat to you to use, and the black one does nothing with Contamination. I'd swap out a Ruby Leech and the Memoricides (which seem to be randomly dumped into the sideboard anyway) for three of the blue leech and give it a try, but that's just me. It's really up to you.
interesting. although really this deck is designed to lockout any deck that isn't white, or red if they are playing white. the brass city is really for the alabaster leech so that I can play it turn 1 and still have the right lands to play my double black spells quickly. yes there is a bonus of being able to use it with the fiend, but that is secondary to the leech.you are looking at this within the normal context of how the leech is annoying against it's own color, but not game changing for the other 4 colors. with the painter's servant out, it makes all cards in the game the color that I choose, even before they are played. and if they have no lands that can add white, (or red if I use ruby leech)... then they cannot play any spells because everything they have costs at least 1 of a color that they can't produce. the memoricide is in the sideboard because the first game that I play in a set, I am generally not going to know if they have any problem cards, so it is really a dead draw for me. but game 2 I can swap out a playset of leeches for it, because then I know whether both are needed or not.anyways, thank you for the comment. :) and feel free to comment on any of my other decks too. I would love the input. :)
well i really like the idea here. i love prison decks.i do have a few suggestions though. you have alot of cards in here that dont really support the strategy your going for..i would probably drop black all together. i know this seems like a radical idea but here me out.play white, blue and red instead.seeing as you dont care about legality blue gives you mystical tutor, which can grab you donate, a one time bazaar trader-sorcery, but it can also grab you mind bend. mind bend is the card you've been searching for :p it lets you switch the "white" on alabaster leech to whatever color the opponent is playing.. permanently .. for one mana >:Dyou could also play enlightened tutor to grab your painters servant to ensure a lock. and it can also grab you pacifism or a similar card to render the leech/s harmless. annd grab your win condition (grindstone) i would probably play some numbers of alabaster leech, sapphire leech, and ruby leech to help draw into it.i would try maaaaaybe something like this:4x bazaar trader 4x alabaster leech3x ruby leech 3x sapphire leech3x painter's servant3x enlightened tutor3x mystical tutor (could be brainstorm, or ponder os some similar seach/tutor effect)1x donate4x mind bend ( alter reality does the same thing for (1)(U), and has flashback)4x pacifism - or even something like tefari's moat that could shut down all their creatures2x grindstone3x whatever you want, maybe swords to plowshares, or more search, or control? its up to you :p23x landsyou might even be able to get away with dropping red altogether and just playing donate and sapphire leech, but im not sure if that would improve the deck at all. having only 2 colors would be easier to pull off without expensive lands, but trader is good, and i like the fact that red gives you another leech, and some cool sideboard possibilities.. hmm-- id'e appreciate if you could check this deck out. it has a bunch of likes but no one has commented yet haha :phttp://www.mtgvault.com/alleywayjack/decks/modern-mythic-bant/
Another way to combo with the leaches is to donate it then use spells like Mind Bend to change the leech's wording.
I have been thinking about doing another version of this deck, possibly white and blue, to do something like that.