Mono Black Newbie

by Kazzong on 01 December 2016

Main Deck (60 cards)

Sideboard (23 cards)


Instants (1)


Artifacts (3)


Enchantments (2)

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Deck Description

fourth deck in the Newbie series.

Deck Tags

  • Beginner
  • Mono Black

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Mana Symbol Occurrence

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Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Mono Black Newbie

I think this needs a lot of work!

This has an even lower creature count of just 14 but 4 Bad Moons? With not a single 1 or 2 drop? I also question all those slow land destruction cards, they will either frustrate him or his opponent and you don't want that with beginners. Your decks will also be all mono with just basic lands, so you don't even need them to get rid of special lands. Besides, land destruction has gone out of fashion, they didn't print Stone Rain type of cards for years. You also did the opposite to the white deck here - in this case you have several cards where you need to pay life but not a single one to gain life.

* I would replace one of the Bad Moons with Crovax the Cursed . That ups the creature count and adds a boss type of creature to it.
* As explained above, get rid of the LD, Desecrated Earth should go. We still need more creatures. If you want to keep the discard part of Desecrated Earth you could add any of the various specters, maybe even the iconic Hypnotic Specter (without Dark Ritual there won't be any frustrating early beating). But could also be Liliana's.
* Accordingly Polluted Dead should also be changed to something more productive. Possibilities are endless of course, at about 5 mana my inner oldschooler wants to see Sengir Vampire or [[Necrataal]] but I think a proper demon like Bloodgift Demon would do well. It doesn't hurt to have a cards that uses the upkeep and the ambigous nature of the ability can teach to see two sides of the ability (do I use it on myself to get the card or can I afford to give my opponent a card to damage him?). But, since we are talking about a playset here, maybe Ashen Ghoul ?
* While reanimation is of course a main theme of black I don't think it should be Rise from the Grave because that thing costs 5 which is equal to or more than any creature it could revive! Yes, it can get opponent's creatures as well, but ... why not use good ol Animate Dead instead? This would also give white an opportunity to make use of their enchantment removal.
* Stealing creatures isn't exactly black's turf, which is why I would cut Enslave. We still need some more creatures and don't have any 1 or 2 drops. We also don't have any regenerators or deathtouchers, both of which black is famous for. Gifted Aetherborn would also add some much needed lifegain and would give the opponent something to think about when making blocking descisions. My pick for a regenerator would be Slith Bloodletter - it can be a straight regenerating blocker but also has the potential to become bigger if he attacks - and the opponent has to calculate if it's okay to waste a blocker on something that won't die anyway. These are descisions beginners can make without overwhelming them.

Additionally:
* Dread Warlock is just unblockable in this setting unless the blue deck has colour changers or the remaining decks have artifact creatures. Haven't checked blue, green and red yet but if they are of similar structure, they won't. I am not sure if that means the Warlock should be replaced or that the others should get artifact creatures. But if this stays unblockable (which is more of a blue thing again), then this is problematic with those 3 Nightmare Lashs ...
* Again, a tiny amount of non-basics to introduce the concept. Something like Quicksand maybe.
* Life's Finale ... I guess you probably want one big sweeper per deck, right? Problem with this one is that the second part of it is next to useless with the exception of those two Rise from the Grave(/Animate Dead). Decree of Pain ?

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Posted 25 August 2021 at 21:14

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Dread warlock is in here for a kind of selfish reason... it is my personal favorite card. as for the nightmare lashes, they could certainly be an issue, although most of the other decks run artifact hate.

removed some of the LD, added a few more creatures and life gain.

perhaps I should swap 1 nightmare lash for 1 corrupt? the single use might be a little more balanced.

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Posted 25 August 2021 at 22:03

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was thinking, for utility lands, I might add the blighted lands. gives utility lands that don't add colored mana, while still adding value in a different way.

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Posted 25 August 2021 at 22:19

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Regarding Corrupt: I was thinking about something like Life Chisel because it would introduce one of blacks central themes: That you have to sacrifice something to gain something. But that card has never been reprinted and as a Legends card it is most likely not an option for you. The closest thing to that would be Bubbling Cauldron but it also has a second ability that requires a specific card, which is unfortunate.

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Posted 25 August 2021 at 22:29

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yeah, the legends cards would be a bit... hard to come by. could do cauldron... or witch's oven. but no cat to go with it.

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Posted 25 August 2021 at 22:41

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I just realized that I linked a wrong card. I wanted to suggest to replace a Bad Moon with Ascendant Evincar which is Crovax but , you know ... maybe my suggestion makes more sense now :)

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Posted 25 August 2021 at 22:43

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I figured that was probably what you meant. although crovax isn't a bad idea either.

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Posted 25 August 2021 at 22:45

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A description is missing ;)
Something that comes to my mind: White doesn't have any means of mass-strengthening their creatures, but black does?

Black does have it's share of unblockable creatures, so Dread Warlock is OK for me.

Dark Banishing vs Doom Blade/ Murder? I didn't see to much regeneration, so this should be no big point.

[[Life's Finale]] might be a little bit to complicated/ unpractical for beginner players, so I would remove it.

You said that Ethereal Armor is to powerful in the white deck, I wonder if this might not also be true for Nightmare Lash. It's more expensive to play, and thus slower, but it's an artifact that you can attach to any creature, and it will stay on the battlefield when the creature carrying it is killed...

With a high number of {B} mana in your creatures costs, you could use Gray Merchant of Asphodel, Some other cards, that are very typical (for me at least) for black decks: Chittering Rats, Sign in Blood/ Read the Bones, Village Rites, Defile], Eternal Thirst (OK, this one is not real typical, but for me it shows the core of black strategy: Kill and profit from it)

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Posted 26 August 2021 at 08:12

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"Black does have it's share of unblockable creatures, so Dread Warlock is OK for me."
My issue was twofold: 1) it's a bit OP with the lashes 2) the machanic doesn't teach much this way - if all decks were two-colour, this would be interesting, but this way it's just a weird phrasing for "unblockable"

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Posted 26 August 2021 at 11:09

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The lashes are more expensive to play, and thus slower, than Ethereal Armor removed from white, or Blanchwood Armor (Which I suggested for green), but if each deck would have an artifact or equipment of this kind, it would be balanced. Even without the Warlock, there still would be Keening Banshee and Ascendant Evincar with flying, who could carry the lash to the opponent and deal a good amount of damage.

Yes, the wording is quite uncommon today, so a Tormented Soul might be the better choice. On the other hand, Kazzong really likes this card ^^

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Posted 26 August 2021 at 13:49

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Yeah, the white deck doesn't have any anthem effects, but from testing it doesn't need them. Those creatures can already get very large.

I could swap dread warlock for tortured soul. That would be a more fair tradeoff since it can't block. And I could swap the nightmare lash for dark favor. A small life loss for a reasonable power boost that dies when the creature does. Simple, but effective.

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Posted 26 August 2021 at 15:01

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