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Prolly the most fun standard deck I've come across which I currently play with, and its a really low budget one. I added them Mindshriekers there recently, they're as awesome as they come, and can be used in various situations. He's a good buddy with Ghoultree :) I know the idea isn't orginial, there are many standard splinterfright decks around there, that combo in the same manners, but has anyone tried a similar deck with either Bonehoards or Wreath of Geists in it? Bonehoard basically being a Boneyard wurm for 4, but extremely dangerous if equipped on a Splinterfright. Changes made so far; - Added Mindshriekers - Added a Swamp (flashbacks) - Added Noxoius Revival & Ground Seal to side - Removed Bonehoards and Rancors from the deck - Added Mana Leak to side - Added Beast within to side
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Not bad, but you should put in 4 labratory maniacs for the merfolk looters and civilized scholars so if you mill all your deck and have it out on the battlefield, you win the game instead.
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Also, the sideboard needs to be 15 cards if you do want to have one
I've been playing with the deck alot and though i might've been close to milling myself out a few times, the game has ended one way or another before that happening. Laboratory maniac's a fun card but doesn't really surve his purpose in this deck imo. My sideboard's still under work in progress..im looking for fresh ideas. Thanks for the input!
Very nice low-budget fright deck! :) I have played a similar one myself. I see you put bonehoard and wreath of geists in sideboard, I can only pray I never face those two out on the board at once, when you have lots of creatures in your yard. Hah. :) I don't have any tips really, perhaps go with a few swamp and plains and roll birds of paradise to be able to cast unburial rites on flashback. :) I've done that a few times, when my fright has been milled. But ohwell, it probably works better with zombie infestation than that. Nice deck alltogether! +1
Thanks for checking it out! That's an idea I really gotta consider, but im not sure what to take out or move to side in that case. Splinterfright although being the main charm, has worthy friends; Kessig's brutal late game & Mindshrieker annoys the hell out of people. I've been doing pretty good with no Splinterfright on battlefield many times, but coming to think of it i've never been in a situation where i've had Splinters milled. That swamp would also help me flashback Spider spawning & Forbidden Alchemy. I could only make a delicate change and add 2-3 swamps in there & maybe a Bird, but they're out once RTRs released and so is Merfolk looter.
I'm convinced that the birds are to be reprinted in ravnica. Or I am hoping they are. Another tip I could give is to introduce screeching skaab into your deck. It is healthier for your graveyard to grow with even more creatures. Perhaps remove the forbidden alchemy? You're lowering your amount of spells, but keep the mill. Along with a 2/1 body. But hey, that forbidden might be good to fetch for your powercards. I haven't tried it myself so, I cannot say.
Many splinterfright decks i've come across make us of Screeching skaab. I decided to leave it out when I started building this deck, though it can be replaced with merfolk looter once its out of standard. I find Forbidden alchemy to be the most powerful spell in this deck, compared to tracker and Mulch, it allows u to take anything, and as u said it's a great way to fetch that powercard you're in need of in various situations. Thus the added swamp gives it even more value in this deck :)
Add only one swamp and feed it out with your sax ability. The only big thing that I see hurting the hell out of you are the spell bomb that removes hot graveyard sorry I'm on my phone and I don't remember the name or even if it is standard anymore. And then again surgical extraction's. Noxious reveal will save you with that. Hold that card in your side board till you come across a deck that runs these. Then keep it in your hand till the cast it. Then once they Target something just but it on top of your library. You can't swing the tempo back to your favor better then that. Take the wind out of someone's sails. Other then that if you start to mill yourself to death tom a copy actually 2 of (again phone don't remember the name sorry) the blue creature that once you pay the activation cost you put it and your graveyard back in your deck shuffle and mill till you find it again the put it back in play. That way you keep your big guys potentially still big and hopefully giving you those few extra turns. Again sorry I don't remember the names of these card. But all and all great deck.
Witchbane Orb and Ground Seal were suggested by KJ, nice countermeasures for this deck.
The card is called Nihill Spellbomb. It's a 1 drop artifact that exiles target players graveyard. Tormod's Cript is 0 and does the same thing. Glad to know that I'm not the only person who uses their phone for this.
other cards that do that are bojuka bog and ravenous trap. neither are standard though..., but then the spellbomb is going to rotate with RTR so...
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Oh and thanks for looking at my fat kid deck. I really appreciated the comments. Let me know who wins when you pit the two against each other. Here is the link to fat kid if anyone else here would like to see it and offer some imput. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=338604
Noxous Revival suits in perfectly, thanks for the advice bud! I can't remember the blue creature you're talking about, but being standard, it cant be too heard to look up. I'm afraid once this http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewCard_Popup.aspx?CardName=Tormod%27s%20Crypt&Edition=M13&Print=1 pop on the table i'll be on the taking end.. I feel its "slightly" overpowered for standard, as the innistrad block brought lots of stuff for graveyard based game..now M13 re-prints this :D It requires a tap, once its out i'd immediately need to counter/destoy/go crazy do something to it. Only thing I can think of is adding Naturalize to side.
the card in the dead link's supposed to be Tormod's Crypt.
Gutter grime could give you some really nice creatures with this deck. :) another thing that would be interesting is feed the pack. Consider this scenario: your opponent has 5 life left and a predator ooze at like 15/15. All you have is a 10/10 boneyard wurm. Attack, and he blocks and kills you next turn. Feed the pack can turn that wurm into 10 wolves, your graveyard gets boosted, and you have enough creatures to get past the ooze. He can't block them all ;) Thanks again for commenting on mine, I hope I helped :)
If you are worried about your graveyard, Ground Seal + Witchbane Orb could help.
Awesome! Thanks KJSJ3 for the advice..i've totally managed to miss Ground Seal somehow, and didn't even come to think of Witchbane Orb. I gotta add Ground Seal over to side incase I stumble upon a deck that looks like it wants to mess with my graveyard. Post a link for a deck/decks you're currently working on, doesn't really matter if its standard or not, but i'll be glad to help out if I can in return!
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All are standard and are being built for FNM, and thanks. Mono red ramp burn. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=368704 Esper Tap. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=362594 B/W infect. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=361794 B/W homicidal seclusion. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=361232 Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
Nice! I will look into those, within this week. I got a week off now, which actually means I spend less time on the computer due to taking care of family & choires :D
@Gaspartacus I looked into Gutter Grime, its a card i've wanted to use before in a deck, but I've never figured out how to take full advantage of it. As it says; "Whenever a nontoken creature you control dies, put a slime counter on Gutter Grime..." *Noob moment here* I assume putting creature cards in graveyard with Mulch/Tracker's instict/Forbidden alchemy/discard doesn't trigger the Enchantments ability as they don't die? Am I right? Feed the pack..I see your point, and it would be worth experimenting, but i'm afraid it might only slow me down even further. Boneyard wurms are the ones that could be replaced with something, as Wreath of geists turns pretty much every creature to a Boneyard wurm. Mindshrieker + Wreath of geists sounds like a good time. I'm a bit worried about facing off against a standard B/U control deck. Such a deck would prolly ripp my deck into pieces :D
You're right, gutter grime is way better for morbid and undying. What cards are you worried about facing?
My first concern was decks that attack my graveyard, now we seemed to find a solution for that. Ground Seal and Withbane Orb both really good options in here. Second of all, well Black and Blue control in general. Delvers, morbid effects like Tragic slips, bone splinters, heavy sacking would make it hard for my big creatures to stay alive. Come to think of it, my friend runs a standard B/W deck with some nasty destructive combos; Thraben doomsayer + Skirsdag flayer + Ravenous Demon + Reaper from the abyss + Tragic slip/Bone splinters + more tokens, that's a combo I remember at it was that fun :D
Make sure your sideboard isn't just stuff that would also work in the deck. The sideboard is to help the deck deal with different types of situations. Ground seal is good, but since the actual deck has no spot removal, the sideboard should have two or three beast within and maybe some counter (mana leak?dissipate?). I play a very similar deck, but i really like your build, especially if you're on a budget.
True that, it's a waste having both wreath of geists & Bonehoards, and if i wanna be really strict both would have to go since getting bulk on the battlefield isn't a problem with this deck. Wreath of Geists could speed things up though, so I'm keeping it a while longer and removing Bonehoards. Manaleak has gone through my mind, dissipate being slightly slower a counter, I would prolly go for the 1st option in this case. The thing's I'm still kinda new to the game, been collecting, building & playing casually for about a year now. I used to play MTG back in mid-nineties, then as kids usually do, forgot about it once founding something new and cool. :) In my group of friends, we play casually and never really focus on the sideboard, as we aint that competitive. So that's an area where my knowledge's still lacking. I would wanna take this deck into the big sea though and see how far it would sail :) Thanks for your input Alkalord, appreciate it! I'll make room for spot removal in side.
Mana Leak and Beast within both soon to be rotated out, so dissipate is gonna be a good replacement, but how about Beast within? I hope RTR brings some sorta green spot removal.
a for some spot removal... once beast rotates then Murder is a good option: 1BB destroy target creature.
That's an option, but that would mean I would have to add a swamp more into the deck or dual lands (that increase the price of this deck quite a lot), + I'd most likely need to fetch those two swamps. So its a bit too tricky and might cause disturbances in the deck synergy :) Bone splinters ( B ) wud prolly be a better option, sac a creature, giving my graveyard something to feed my splinterfright/ghoultree/Kessig or wurm with. Still I would hope for a green alternative once RTRs out..
True, bone splinters would probably be better here. I didn't see that you are only running a single swamp. Also, I am sure that RtR will have some new black (and possibly green) removal cards.
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Tipped over the line... Congrats on top deck.
Thx, no personal gain with it for me tho, since what pleases me more's the fact player's get to explore a very low budget option for standard/casual gaming. Saying this makes me sound like a hypocrite, but honestly it's warms my heart, or rather saves my girlfriends nerves, that I can say with a good conscience "I didn't spend a fortune of my salary on cardboard this month" :) ...other months are different :P I consider myself still a rookie at this game, so its nice that similar people can see this deck for a week or two on the mainpage, without having to look further for a fun deck to get started with.
i used to run a deck like this. it was extremely fun and low budget. you should try wreath of giests tho. I used 4 in my deck and occasionally came up with a 20/20 splinter or boneyard on turn 4. doubling there power for 1 mana is ridiculous. congrats on the front page deck. plzcheck out my venser combo deck. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=356767
Cool & thx! I have Wreath of geists sided, still havent tried it in main yet but will do next time i'll be playing with my buddies. Sure, I'll have a look at your deck!
What if you added some dual lands to help with your colors? I think the black aspect of the deck would benefit from a couple of Drowned Catacombs and Woodland Cemeteries. I also think that 4 Boneyard Wurm would be better than two, despite the lack of trample.
Adding woodland cemeteries would deffo help with getting that swamp when needed. This deck has never really suffered from any mana related issues with its current build tho, if u cant get a hold of the color u need, u got plenty of support spells for that and i'm usually able to do it in time before its too late. If u do have dual lands to spare for such a deck then ofcourse u should make use of them, I dont have them myself and if added them in the deckbuild it wouldnt be so budget friendly anymore :)
I see you added a Swamp. Since we're trying to stay budget friendly, I might add a couple of Evolving Wilds. That way, you can go find the Swamp when you need it.
Ok so I tried my hand at the splinter frights myself a while ago and what i found is that one of the best creatures you can get is ambush viper. Nothing is more fun than taking down the large titans (now a moot point) or other large creature with a 2 costing flash creature that then serves to fill your graveyard. Just a thought for you killing deficet problem. oh also if you got the moment could you take a look at my new deck im trying to come up with something for the new rotation after losing so many good cards and all help is appreciated. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=371161
Not a bad idea, i will give it a try and see how it works, although a few fogs might also buy me the time needed if I cant get a good start or im getting overrun by flying creatures. I'll check it out and see if I can help! Thanks for the input!