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This deck is my mono red burn deck that was turned into Boros burn, and now Dega, mostly for consistency's sake, and to lower my CMC as low as possible. Having trouble with keeping my hand full and not killing my opponent fast enough. Suggestions are appreciated! :D Update:This deck will now be running a suite of 10-12 red fetchlands after the release of Khans of Tarkir, so for now this will be "Legacy Legal", but in fact it will be modern legal in a matter of a few weeks.
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You don't need Scalding Tarn in here if you already have Arid Mesa and Marsh Flats I'd also try to have a bit more B/W cards in here too, may be Path to Exile and Hero's Downfall for removal saving the burn for players. Also, maybe a heavy hitter e.g. Blood Baron of Vizkopa
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It would not be much of a burn deck.. Just keep it doing damage! You could cut the white and black, add in 3 grim lavamancer, 1 thunderous wrath, 4 magma jet
And get rid of all expensive lands that way too, cutting the cost to a 1/5th and changing what the deck is essentually about
i mean it would still be doing damge, just drop 2 colors lol. change the color scheme, keep the plan
Like I said in the description I had it mono colored to start with, and it just wasn't getting the job done. I would always come up short in some way, so I added the two colors to get more lower CMC burn spells. The fetches are in there to make sure I don't draw nearly as many lands late game, which is a huge detriment to my strategy, and adding removal other than burn is in the same vein, not much help in a burn deck. Blood Baron is completely out of the question too, thanks for all the suggestions though! :3 I may try maindecking a few lavamancers! :D
lavamancer does some cool stuff, for sure! Check out my mono red, it is high creatures but its been doing ok. The fetches are very helpful, they thin out the deck alot. Rakdos's Return? it may be useful. I like boros charm for 4 damage too. Sideboard some gutteral response for control decks. Heres mine: http://www.mtgvault.com/zaklax13/decks/modern-burning/
Guttersnipe would work really well in here if Blood Baron is out of the question
Alright Zaklax I'll check it out! :D S0rin guttersnipes are also out of the question, those are too slow for this deck as well, thank you though! :D
Spark elemental on turn one or two are essentially a bolt, did you play around with those at all? I like the lavamancers to pump through a lot of damage, and if you have fetchlands to feed her that's great
Yeah I tried spark elementals, while they are amazing early game, they are completely dead after that and I'd prefer another burn spell in their place. Same goes for lavamancers, except they are better put on the battlefield early, they shine late game unless they are in your hand. I may play around with lavamancers and eidolon of the great revel however! :D
Edilon works well as long as its not mirror match
Okay cool, I don't expect to see many mirror matches in my area so I'll try it... XD
Edilon of the Great Revel hits you too.....
yea but usually you can kill you opponent before it kills you. i like to drop 2 and then just swing away with them, anything they play hurts them now
I have a very similar deck. I can tell you Eidolon of the Great revel is seriosly OP. A large number of decks play nothing but 3cmc spells or less, so you're turning avery single one of there spells into a burn spell. I would up the count to 4 of. I play 2-3 Dragons claws SB just for the mirror or for aggro decks that try and out race me. Another card thats great for your SB is Destructive revelry becuase it deals with both artifact and enchantments and burns them for 2. Since you're running fetches you can easily play stomping ground for Revelry. The only other recommendation is to play a Keldon megaliths or 2. I cant even count how many times that land has won me the game. One of the inherant weaknesses of RDW is that it typically runs out of cards to play fairly quickly. With megaliths out and no cards in hand you can still continue to ping them or their creatures every turn. Other than that, great deck! +1
well i might steal those ideas from you for my burn, im at 2 edilons, thinking of 4 though
Another great card that can either burn for 2 or draw a card is Pyrite Spell bomb. I saw you have Magma Jet MD, i'm thinking about stealing that idea. Burn for 2 and scry 2 seems really good for Burn.
yea just to set up 2 bolts for the win, its a good ability
Yeah see I prefer them to be dead when I've run out of cards, and adding another tapped land to the list (one that I can't have enter untapped as well) is going to make this way more inefficient, and the effect seems to be okay, but I'd prefer mountains so I won't be hurting myself as much when fetching. Also the spellbomb is okay, I just don't think it's for me since I'm not going the Galvanic Blast route for burn. Thanks for the suggestions and I'm glad I can help! :D
I like the way this list is looking, how's it running? I would still like to see the vexing devils go way for grim lavamancer x3,, then - 2 magma jet for 2 boros charm
I dunno about that, in almost every match-up Vexing Devil is a better draw in the first game because it helps me speed out wins a lot faster than the lavamancer even if it sticks on the board, and it is a better draw late game because it isn't just a dead card when it hits the board (late game I want burn spells that affect life totals right away, not later in a turn or two.) I may try boros charms in here again (tried them out in my boros burn list, they worked but not too well) and the list is running great, but I have not had any play testing since I changed it, and the last fnm before I changed it went horribly because I kept drawing too many lands and not enough burn spells... XD
yea you want 20 tops. i go between 18-20, depending on the curve. i run 3 different variants of burn in modern, and ive done pretty well in tourneys with them. the only deck vewing devil belongs in is mono red burn. its a bad card in the idea that your opponent picks what it does. they will take 4 damage when you want it to stick, or they will let it stick when they have removal in their hand. you will never finish off an opponent at 2 life with a vexing devil unless they already lost. basically its good against bad players who dont know what to pick, but you have better options i think
oh and i think the boros charm is nice, 4 damage for 2 isnt to bad, its like a legacy flame rift
How about Dismember? If they drop an Indestructable, your burn won't do shit to it. Also, the potential pay 4 life part of the mana cost may be very helpful
I run 3 sideboard, it shuts down pod, kiki, and splinter twin due to instant speed. Its an awesome sideboard card against a lot of decks, but dead card vs weenies, tokens, mill,. I love it sideboard, the only problem is the more non burn cards main board, the less burn spells I run
Dismember is alright, but I honestly prefer Combust, mainly because it does the same thing (minus indestructible hate) and is uncounterable, which helps me against american control and twin.
But only affects Blue and White cards, which aren't quite as common as every other colour where I play. Besides, colour specific cards are best left to the SB
Right, and that's why combust is in the sideboard, and it will stay there until after game one because it can't target the player as well. I find that in most situations, I need something to get rid of their main threat without being uninterrupted, but I may try out dismember for a little while... :)
So i know this is way late for a comment lol but i was searching for ideas for my own Dega Modern Burn and i like this build, except it doesnt have Boros Charm, i mean that card is amazing so im just confused if you didnt think it was worth adding or maybe just overlooked it.
Yeah I've made it a point to run two boros charm, I just haven't changed the list... :3 I dropped the Vexing Devils entirely because I don't like them.
Update, I am now running Boros Charms, two in the main, and I'm satisfied with this number... :)
I see, i personally love Vexing Devils, mostly because i started in Avacyn and that was my first rare =) plus i run them in my Legacy Burn, but anyways yea Boros Charm is a must and im glad to see them in here now =)
I used to like Vexing Devils, but because you give your opponent the choice, I always feel like when it counts they do absolutely nothing because it goes in the opponents interests to pick what is best for them and not you; this is also why I don't like browbeat. Boros Charm is a powerhouse in the deck, but with blood moon in the side board and not too many white mana sources, it feels awkward to go above 2 just because 8 white mana symbols main board doesn't feel right to me.
Fair enough, either way im happy to see a Dega Burn build and i hope it all works out great for you =)
Well thank you! :D I've gotten top 8 pretty consistently with this deck at my local shop and won the last tournament I was in! :3
You will now be able to run bloodstained mire
I know, I'm so pumped that I can run all fetchlands in red and not run Tarns! :D
Hell of a lot cheap, arid mesa went down already
although goblin guides now cost more than some fetchlands...
Yeah really... :3 Sadly, he is kind of a staple for this deck and many people want him for the last Modern PTQs of the season...