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Mono black for m13 standard. Still has a few cards from previous block, but i know what i will replace when it rotates out. let me know what you think! I am making a MTG Vault poll/petition on this decklink (this is your chance to display what you like/dislike about the site, and my 5 suggestions, and I will add yours to the description): http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=361996 1. ******Wow, Front page! Thanks to you all for your feedback/likes. If you contributed feel free to post your decks and I will return the favor. -----Darksteel axe indestructible artifact for permanent lich's. testing out new Ring of Xathrid. Tomods crypt's 0 mana cost is helpfull so you can play it and a lich for 3 mana. -----Disciple of Bolas + Geralfs Messenger = +3 cards +3 life opponent -2 and Ralph gets bigger. Hex Parasite, remove counters and repeat with new cards. Parasite can also be used for lich counters. I really want as much feedback as possbile on this deck before I invest in it, if i'm planning on running a version of this for the next while. Changelog: -changed out treacherous pit dweller, was indeed treacherous -added 4 doom blades for reliable removal and since you draw a lot, chances are you will have plenty of removal (Go for the throat in SB for artifact creatures) -added Ring of Xathrid to pump all my black creatures and regen. -added 2x sword of feast and 2x War and peace to SB -added sign in blood for extra card draw -added Phyrexian Olbiterator, scary 4 drop this deck needs. -Added Darksteel axe, indestructible Artifact for lich's. -Took out Ring of Xathrid and added Mortarpod for Crawler sac. -Moved Spellbomb to SB and added Hex Parasite for continuous Geralf's Messengers. -added ratchet bomb to SB in case of Tokens. Only to be used if Lich is sac'ed to Disciple. ******Thanks for the imput so far, need more feedback to make this a better deck******** Also, SB suggestions would be greatly apreciated.
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I think this looks really cool. Pit-Dweller is a bit scary, but can be very effective :D I personally prefer the Black cat to the Ravenous rats, especially with Disciple of Bolas. I think this deck will do very well, the only thing that might be harsh are the pit-dwellers, but I guess some playt esting will find that out.
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Thanks for the imput. It was necessary for me to use cards from the previous block and yeah Pit-dweller was rough because you have to use your own removal on him. so i'm thinking maybe Vampire nighthawk but the problem with this deck is that it has no 2 drops that do much damage other than distress and removal.
I like it. Seems pretty legit, but I would indeed replace the rats for black cat. Mainly just because real men love cats. XD
Treacherous Pit-Dweller will be a problem, you don't have enough kill to reliably kill him when he goes to the opponent's side.
Made few improvements imo, what should i take out for the Pit-dwellers? the reason why i have em is because you're drawing 4 cards and gaining 4 life so i'm trying to increase the likelihood i get removal to deal with him afterwards.
more removal would actually be a good improvement. Murder, in particular, is quite nice and simple.
Murder seems good and reliable but its 3 mana cost conflicts whith what i'm trying to acheive with this deck. will stick with doom blade or GFTT's for now.
First, replace nihil spellbomb with tormod's crypt. Second, put it in your sideboard, it's only useful in deck that actually use their graveyard, and will be a dead draw against other decks. If your desperate for artifacts that lich can use, make them useful ones, for example, Leaden Myr gives you ramp, or Ring of Xathrid, to pump up your lich, while it's indestructible! Also, use some real removal, not Tragic Slip. Yes, Tragic Slip is funny, a 1 drop and such, but it will do nothing for you mid to late game. I'd reccomend Murder, but if you want something cheaper, go with Doom Blade/Go For The Thraot (TIP: put doom blade as a 4 of in main deck, and Go for the Throat as a 4 of in sideboard. When you come to face another black deck, simply swap them!) Hope this helps
thank you for your insightful comment! Will make change and & playtest.
Actually, I'd keep the Spellbomb as the 1 black to draw a card is just soo much better.
yeah so Spellbomb at 1 mana cost > Tormods at 0 Mana cost?
You should still probably put those spellbombs in the sideboard though, they don't really serve a purpose maindeck.
Memoricide seems interesting. but it seems you are lacking late game 5 - 6 drops to finish your opponent off. Doesnt seem very promising for mono - black atm but very solid deck!
looks solid, you could think of using lashwrithe until it goes out as your playing mono black
yeah lashwrithe is great, but i want to have artifacts that will drop reliably on turn 1 or 2 so that lich can throw a counter on em. and lashwrithe is a 4 drop. So what do you think, Phyrexian Oblitertaor or Lashwrithe?
hmm yeah you have a good point, sorry for the stupidly slow reply, i would stick with obliterator, as soon as people see it drop its a threat, you could always sideboard the lashwrithe if you feel your obliterators are getting hated on easily http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=363268
dismemeber is also decent removal as youre playing the mono
Yeah dismember is great, since i'm gaining quite a bit of of life so losing life isn't too much of a problem. but what would you take out for them?
yeah thats the problem, erm in my opinion it would be 1 doomblade and 1 darksteel axe, admittedly it is good, but if youre getting the obliterator out turn 4 that is such a threat anyway and he doesnt really the need the axe as he is already such a bomb
Love it! Disciple of Bolas is awesome! Please check my Lich deck and tell me what you think. And welcome to the front page ;) http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=357519
i kinda like victim of the night better than doom blade. it can kill black stuff, just not vampires, which is a pain still. or, what about murder?
Victim of night is Very scary to use as all the creature types are very strong in this format. Murder is a 3 drop and i need to use a creature on turn 3. Thanks for your suggestion though!
Until the next shift in October, you could run this with a few hex parasite's to create an undying geralf. Overall, this is a very nice deck. Check out my goblins and let me know what you think... http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=364004
Hmmm very interesting. Problem is Parasite dies to creature removal and mass removal quite easily so I wouldn't want to use it for a lich counter. But its is very possible, repeating Geralf's is very scary. Will playtest this first!!
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=364822 Care to take a look?
Seems solid, I would have the Go For the Throats main deck and Doom Blade sideboard, simply more mono-black decks than there are Tempered Steel/all artifact decks today. Also, I prefer Geth's verdict over Trubute to Hunger (1less mana). Finally, Mortarpod might be a worthwhile 2 or 3 of, great synergy with Gravecrawler/Messenger, and it also acts as an Artifact for Lich.
Ahhh yes. I only added tribute in situations where the life-gain is necessary but it isn't most of the time. You are probably right I will switch them in. and Mortarpod does seem awesome, what would you take out for for them though? Im thinking making room for both Mortarpod and Hex parasite.
Seems like a solid deck. Please have a look at my first MTG deck! Hoping for some improvements to get better :) Thanks alot! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=363682
Seems alright. I'm fairly certain though, that indestructibility doesn't protect from sacrificing. Kinda puts a big hole in one of your combos. Overall pretty good though.
I actually dont think it does, because i would gladly sac gravecrawlers and pay 1 mana to bring them back. And I can also sac Geralf's Messenger and re-use him with Hex Parasite
duress would be a nice addition at least in the sideboard...also check out my most recent legacy build if you have the time http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=365435
Nice Deck ! Just made this deck ! Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=366068
This is competitive... I love your deck! I expecially like the "Mortarpod" - "Gravecrawler" - Lich combo... Anywayes... Here is a deck, that should beat this up (just practicing my ego) :) .... : http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=343423
Nice deck I need some advice on my delver/faerie control Here's the link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=366728 Thanks.
This is a great deck. It's simple but deadly.. If you could, I'd love to get some feedback on the deck I'm going to be taking to my first qualifier. The original concept was Mono black burn. Now it's more Mono black Control/Burn http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=355907
I don't even understand what's going on here. 58 cards? 4 Mutilate mainboard and 2 sideboard?? It's a bit too uniform IMO. Sever the Bloodline and Tribute to Hunger are amazing 1 or 2 ofs, and the new Liliana is basically a requirement for a mono black deck. Also, there are no control type cards, e.g. Liliana of the Veil, Duress, Despise, Surgical Extraction. One of black's strongest assets is screwing over your opponent, you should utilize that!
I think you have a great deck, just some thoughts though: You can add 2 Cower in Fear to your main deck to get it up to 60 cards and they're great for weenie killing. Also, you might want to replace the 2 Mutilate in your side deck with Cower in Fear as well, otherwise you'll have a total of 6 Mutilate. And since Doom Blade is going out of standard soon, you might want to replace it with Murder. Could you take a look at my Bolas deck? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=368003