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I was going to make a dimir mill deck and then decided to add a splash of green for an amazing combo. Any help welcomed. Working on a side board
Turn 1: land Turn 2: land, doorkeeper or murmuring phantasm Turn3: land, wall of frost, hover barrier, or mill cardsTurn 4: land, defenders or mill with doorkeeperTurn 5: land, prophet of kruphix, mill door keeper, then on your opponents turn play phenax.Turn 6: maybe land, jace, mill for a lot with Phenax's ability.
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Interesting addition with kruphix, but due to having only 6 green mana generators, I would replace one of them
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i'd have to agree. try 4 breeding pools and 4 temple of mystery. let us know how this works i dont have enough of the UG lands to try this so i wnet dimir.
Thank you ill add that in right now :)
as for sideboard try pithing needle, aetherize, crypt incursion and cyclonic rift.
Thank you :) those are all great side boards
Axebane guardian
I was thinking about him but I don't know how i feel about putting another green card in it. Do u think it would be worth it and what would I replace?
i would prefer sylvan caryatid instead of axebane guardian
Yeah but with Axebane I can get multiple manna rather then just 1
love the mill idea. could you help me out with my white weenie deck. http://www.mtgvault.com/cuznflick3r/decks/heroicly-enchanting/
Have you thought of using any jace's phantasm? They'll fill in the one mana cost creature, and later on count as 5/5 with flying for one mana.
This deck is only staying in standard. I can't go into anther legalty
this deck is rude, I like it! I would maybe add a traumatize or 2 for some extra OMPH
Yeah the only thing is with tramatize that's it's I feel like I can kill more with mind grind by then. But thanks alot :)
yea I like running both of themm I find it pretty solid because you may not always have the X mana for mind grind
traumatize cant win the game and for five mana you wanna spend it on something that can win. mind grind however can
good point comparing traumatize and mind grind it would have been my point to make
i really really like this deck. i am working on my own mill and kill deck and this gave me some really good additions. Thank you haha
No problem :)
Could someone tell me the difference of formats, I don't get how it works. And a way to not add green is murkfiend liege. It doesn't make flash, but if it really messes up the deck to have green, you should add it. :)
Standard is the last 2 blocks plus core set, right now it's return to Ravnica, gatecrash, dragon's maze, 2014, theros and born of the gods.modern is from whenever they switched to the black border and forward.
Murkfiend is a modern card. This deck is only for standard tournaments
to bad this is standard. tree of redemption woukd be a nice addition to this
i had a similar idea awhile ago. i threw in door to nothingness as a funny alternate wincon from the axebane. i just also had something to untap him like savage surge i think, so you could tap him twice in a round and only need 5 defenders for activate the door.
Yeah door to nothingness isn't in standard anymore. And if I wanted to so that burst of strength would be a better card for it but that's a pretty good deck idea for modern or extended
i think a few draws would be good. Divination or Pilfered Plans sound like a good choice. Maybe this way you can remove for example 1 Phenax and 1 Mind Grind and Add 2 Pilfered Plans, so you can draw the remaining 3 more easily.
Yeah I'll try this. Thank u
I would love it if you could make a modern version of this deck. i like the idea of the deck but i like to play modern more then standard.+1 Thumbs up!
I could and it would be a great deck but I play standard more but thank you anyways :)
I love this deck- wouldn't change a thing. Great work.
Thank you means alot :)
Consider dropping the Green in favor of more control cards instead. I'd make the following changes:-1 Mind Grind (You don't need to rely on that as much as you might think if you have Phenax and a wall out)-2 Axebane Guardians-3 Prophet of Kruphix-4 Doorkeeper+4 Thoughtseize+3 Dissolve OR Dispel OR mainboard negate OR Psychic Strike+2 Hero's Downfall+1 Pilfered PlansSideboard:-2 Fate Unraveler (Why was it in anyway..?)+2 Thassa, God of the Sea (tohave a 5/5 since your walls are virtually unkillable or can be protected with counterspells and you can hit 5 devotion on thassa)
Doing this would change my deck completely and I don't wan to do that. But thanks anyways
Fair point. As an afterthought though, think about Master Biomancers maybe... Give those walls some more toughness and ignore mind grinds maybe.
I'll consider it maybe thanks
So if you don't manage to pull a green source of land this deck isn't going to perform nearly as well as what it should. because of this i would go the extra mile and replace your 3 swamps with overgrown tombs just to be on the safe side. other thant that this deck looks awesome. If you have time and could check out my Jund deck that would be awesome! http://www.mtgvault.com/coolwip4865/decks/what-the-jund/
I would but It goes a little out of my budget. And thanks :)
ah that's reasonable. maybe golgari guildgates? just a thought
I just don't like how it comes in tapped without scry but if it dosnt work out when I use this deck I will thanks :)
I'm a big fan of discard deck. You should add the blue and black planes walker. The is because you will need a way to mess up the other guy's plan if you want to win using a deck like this. If you like playing competitive standard decks that have a non standard win condition check out this deck:http://www.mtgvault.com/vines/decks/visionary/
id lose the cruphix and the defenders theyre too slow ive tried it you need a play set of mind grind and jace. run some removal maybe think about going straight control id stick with u/b or if you wanted three colors maybe esper or grixis either way drop the defenders they are way too slow.
That would change my deck completely and I don't want to do that
Hidden Strings would be fun to use if you have Phenax out. Tap all you creatures, then use Hidden Strings to untap 2 and do it again.
That's a nice card but I only really have 6 cards that I would cipher that ability
You don't need Crypt Incursion, cause if the oppo play from the graveyard you will not have that much time, better to use tormod's crypt!
What about Siren of the Silent Song?You kill the oppo card advantage and make him discard, also with Prophet of Kruphix it's overkill each turn
This decks misses a clockwork librarian. XD
What card is that?
A new card from concpiracy.http://mythicspoiler.com/cpy/cards/cogworklibrarian.html
i would switch 1 murmuring phantasm and 1 doorkeeper fr 2 sylvan caryatids ( i know i have said it before, but i proxied my version of this deck and i found them useful) and maybe tower defense. I am not sure about that last one, i am still testing it.
I might consider that thank you
the only problem i see in this is if someone gets elixir opening hand.... i mean you have a way to kill him but as far as the milling it wouldnt work and with all the black removal and control chances of winning from attacking are less likely, maybe some artifact removal for sideboard most control decks run at least 1 elixir
Thank you alot I totally missed that
I told you that lol
Lol shut up dan
This deck looks very fun i just want to know if you have tryed it at FNM? and how it did because i am really considering making it since i only need about 5 of the cards to fully build it ((: and maybe in mine i might find a spot for a play set of ashioks? maybe but i like it alot!!!
I can't yet because born of the gods hasn't came out yet but soon I will :)
haha of course xDD i feel so dumb xD my bad haha looks fun tho and i shall try it soon((:
i also see you dropped a few mind grinds for ashiok another win con and very deadly!! i will definitaly try this!!
Yeah I love it. It has such nice abilitys to mill and get rid of their hand
Drop thassa, ashiok, and siren of the silent song for 2 more mind grinds 2 more jace and 3 wall of swords
Re-looking at this, add in triton tactics. Mill out a giant portion of the opponents deck with your walls, then play triton tactics to untap them, buff them (+0/+3), and mill for even more. Possibly a game ending move. The best part is that it costs only 1 mana, so you can easily cast multiples.
That sounds very good but what would you take out to add triton tactics?
Yeah that's wht I was gonna ask. I could put it in my side board but again what would I take out
I think the two negates are useless. there is no threat if you have just two counterspells in your deck. two triton tactics have more efect then two negates.
Good point ill do that
Well let me start by saying its good to see people trying to play with Mill Decks... I know that with the current Standard game flow you won't see many Mill decks pop up.... when I look at the deck you have there are two things that jump to my mind.1. Holy crap this is an expensive deck and I may want to use my $250+ towards more then one competitive deck...2. I surely hope the flow works out with your cards otherwise you are stuck/dead very quickly.I am a large advocate for mill decks and really like the play of them and have had great success winning with my mill deck for very little cost comparatively to yours. I am typically not the guy that links a deck but this is the mill deck I currently play with and I have run appx 10-12 matches with it... I have not lost a round but I have gone 2-1 in a round... the key is to know what your opponent is playing and make the proper adjustments with your side board.My most expensive card costs 5 mana... so I am able to function and function well on very little mana...Let me know what you think.http://www.mtgvault.com/rendamere/decks/blue-black-mill-std/
Black Oak of Odunos... Helps trigger silent song's inspired and can help kill enemy threats as defender...