V's first deck

by Pentagrim on 19 February 2015

Main Deck (60 cards)

Sideboard (6 cards)

Sorceries (2)

Instants (4)

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Deck Description

Bought my first magic cards 2 weeks ago so i have no clue what i'm doing :v but these seemed to have nice synnergies :>

i'd love suggestions!

How to Play

i hold on tightly to my harsh sustinence if it drops until i have a decent amount of tokens/ creatures on the board

using the demonmail to have a potential decent creature on the board

archfiend for potential battlefield control
indulgent for potential hand conrol
dash hopes because it's a fun card
doom blade because screw your non-black creatures

i have no idea what i'm doing.. but these cards look like fun! :D

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Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Not Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for V's first deck

maybe wanted to put in more white creatures in stead of child of night? i like her life link though.. and battlebrawler is basically OP if there's a white token on the field.

can flying creatures block non-flying creatures? :|
otherwise i need to rethink those tokens maybe..

would love your insights <3

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 21:28

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It seems a little unfocused. You want your deck to focus on 1 goal(beside winning)
First of all you need to know what you want to build into.
A midrange deck(get value with everything while killing their stuff and distrubting them)
A token deck(tokens, distrubtion enchantments that pump your guys)
B/W also allows for an extort deck, extort reads: Extort (Whenever you cast a spell, you may pay 1 hybrid black/white mana. If you do, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain that much life.)
if you choose GENERAL SUGGESTIONS:
Bloodgift demon is a really good card, better than Indulgent Tormentor, I would try to get 4 of him
Obzedat, ghost council is also good but a bit higher in price
Don't run Dash Hopes2x, you never get what you want. unless you are a mono black aggressive deck.

If you want I can link you some of my decks in b/w.

PS: This deck is about 300% more complete and normal than any other deck posted by someone new to the game.
Writing on my phone

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 21:44

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Hey! thanks a lot for your awesome reply, i'm going to check out those cards and get back to you :)

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unfocussed really is an issue i guess.. with my friends i tend to play a decent match, but sometimes i feel the cards don't love me as much as i love them :v might want to look into more extort cards then! or focus on lifelink? not sure if that's a good move though :v i heard lifelink decks don't do well in modern

not really sure about bloodgift demon :v since you either have to pay blood for card advantage or give the oponent a card to damage him, i'm guessing you're going to want to keep drawing cards with him? - indulgent tormentor has 2 pro's in that sense, either draw or damage the oponent :v i imagine the oponent would want to pay for keeping his card advantage, until he's not able to and that's when the extra cards count the most?

anyway, that legendary creature looks totally hardcore! i can see that working out great with palace siege, getting the pressure on nice and steady :) you can only have 1 legendary creature up at a time right? should i have 2 of them in the deck just to be sure or is it like a "icing on the cake" type of thing..

dash hopes is just sitting there because i enjoy watching them make the descision to either punch themselves in the face or not play the card they wanted to. <- to me that's always a win :'3 but i do understand that for the game itself it might not be the most practical thing to put in there :v i have 4 though, so i could switch you doom blades for the dash hopes i got in my side deck, could help.. also could do with some more palace sieges (maybe an extra sanguine bond/ exquisite bloods?, is that even legal in modern?)

thanks for the advice and yes, ofcourse i would love to see some of your decks ! :>

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 21:46

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sidenote: might be worth it getting duress? and i need a better alternative for triplicate spirits.. those feel like an expensive cast..

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Posted 19 February 2015 at 22:20

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First decide in which way you want to build, here are mine:
http://www.mtgvault.com/theswarmer/decks/budget-black-white-tokens/
http://www.mtgvault.com/theswarmer/decks/budget-new-extort/
http://www.mtgvault.com/theswarmer/decks/budget-halloween-lifedrain/
http://www.mtgvault.com/theswarmer/decks/budget-orzhov-midrange/
http://www.mtgvault.com/theswarmer/decks/budget-good-old-orzhov/
http://www.mtgvault.com/theswarmer/decks/extort-thingy/
http://www.mtgvault.com/theswarmer/decks/budget-warriors/

These are just some of the directions you can go in. If you want I can build a control deck for you. Black white control uses expensive spells and enchantments to win and kill spells and distrubtion to stall.

Also for bloodgift demon. He is better than Indulgent Tormentor for a few reasons:

1 more thoughtness , staying out of the range of lightning bolt is very good, but that depends on the people you play with, if they don't have lightning bolt or lightning strike Indulgent Tormentor is better.

With Indulgent Tormentor you never get what you want(just as with dash hopes) when they have 40 life they will pay life, if they have 10 saproling tokens they will sac a creature. Through this can be a big upside of Indulgent Tormentor, especially if you don't run into players willing to pay life or creatures. If that is your case keep on using him. 4 of him, if you can.
Also 1 life per card is a great exchange, especially in your deck with obzedat and the siege. Much better than Sign in blood for example

That aside, if you want I could copy your deck and try to polish it, and looking at your deck I think it comes the closest to a midrange deck. The planeswalkers, lingering souls, the siege, Obzedat. All those can be found in midrange decks.
Also Mortify is something to look at.
But as I said try to choose a strategy, currently most b/w strategies would allow you to keep about 12 cards plus all your planeswalkers and most of your mana base.
Oh and for duress. Yes it would be worthed. Most decks of your kind run 4 Castigate but duress is fine too.
For triplicate spirits you can try midnight haunting, Belfry Spirit, Spectral Procession.
If you want to go palace siege and more black enchantments i recomend you start building your deck like a control deck. That means A LOT of stuff for black white decks. And if you do try Sorin's revenge.

PS: I am not you so if I start talking bullshit forgive me, I'm just judging on my experience with both competitive and casual mtg.

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Posted 20 February 2015 at 15:29

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BTW many of my descriptions are super outdated. I often change my decks but don't change the description

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Posted 20 February 2015 at 15:35

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would love your advice on my new deck O; it's basically a destillate of this deck here, but with some suggestions and other researchables mixed in :> http://www.mtgvault.com/pentagrim/decks/its-a-harsh-and-hungry-world/

only if it's not too much of a bother ofcourse ^^

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Posted 22 February 2015 at 01:46

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