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Standard(2012. october) Updated(2012. october 13.) Selesnya tokens with "Parallel Lives"... THX for front page, everyone!! :) I'm on to chose what deck to use on FNM... This is one of options, but I have 3 others... I'd like to hear your opinions on wich I should pick: Grixis control: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=391163 Azorius control: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=392017 B/G/U zombies: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=393748 Links not working here, just copy them, if U R interested in helping me to decide... THX!.. :)
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id add in more grove of the guardians
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Not a bad idea... Instead of a Plains, may be...
i have to admit, i really like this new population thing to, i was about to suggest growing ranks then i relized u already have it lol
Intangible virtue and maybe even gavony township. I ran into a minor set back with my tokens deck against The jace with its -1/0 thing just a thought
I would add a little bit more of mana ramp and take out the Seller songbirds, Add a couple of Collective Blessing too with one in play even a pilgrim becomes a monster lol.
Off to a good start, but I think it is time to entreat some angels. If you are going to populate, do it on something bigger than a bird. I love the new Selesnya though. It is so much tougher than the old Selesnya that went nuts with saprolings. BTW I also have a GW deck if you wish to check it out. Good luck! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=371380
Drop the seller of songbirds there just to much other food stuff you could have if you need the fliers then midnight haunting is better its instant If you don't need the fliers a Armada wurm Avacyn pilgrim Tristani And either guildmage or wayfaring temple
I have almost every card U have suggested in the deck... U might just toke a quick look at it & saw the Seller... Midnight Haunting is quite good, since I play Parallel lives & I could have 4, or even 8 tokens at a time... :) ... The Seller is a good card, but U R might be right of Haunting...
I'm aware you have those cards in your deck add 1 more of each lol
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=392759 This is my version of a Golgari Deck ^_^ it's zombies would love to hear your idea's on it.
Allready commented.... U have even replied... Anywayes... When U comment on a deck, the main topic should stay the deck U comment on... Than U can spam & ask for ideas... I'm happy to give suggestions, but U should never spam at a deck U haven't checked & haven't eben mentioned in your comment... Change your attitude, please!.. Do not spam on this site!..
Thanks for commenting on my deck! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=392369&DeckCommentID=294458 I did some playtesting tonight and found that any graveyard recursion really gave me problems. As such, it might be a GREAT idea to sideboard Rest In Peace. Also, as someone suggested, Gavony Township helps with anything that makes your tokens -1/-1. I kind of found the Guildmage to be too mana-intensive. You can use 3 Call of the Conclaves and get 3 3/3 Centaurs for what you pay for her first ability and there are several cheaper spells that allow you to populate.
THX, man! U were helpful!.. :)
What about Cather's Crusade ? check out this deck if you have a chance Goblin Deck mainly Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=393095
It woulda' mass the curve up...
Good looking deck, thanks for the help with my Selesnya deck. One question, why only one evolving wilds? Just for that off shoot chance of a mana fix. Just curious. Check out my Izzet deck too if you have the time. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=392897
U R wellcome, my man! :) I'm using 1 Evolving Wilds, 'cuz it's all I needed to perfect the balance of colors in the mana base & I didn't wanted more lands to enter tapped...
this seems like a really fun deck good job and grats on making top deck page :)
Thanx, man! :) CHECK OUT MY OTHER DECKS! THIS GOES TO EVERYONE, 'CUZ I'M ON TO DECIDE WICH DECK TO USE ON FNM!!...... Grixis control: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=391163 Azorius control: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=392017 B/G/U zombies: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=393748
how heavily do you rely on the pilgrims for ramp? i hope not to much because after first game the G/B is gonna throw in golgari charm to f that shit up lol. and also its curious to see no thrag tusks. this is deff a more token deck correct? as opposed to a g/w beatdown aggro. if you wouldnt mind looking at my G/B zombies? Cheers! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=391261
I don't really rely on Pilgrim... The mana curve is stabil... If I'd rely on ramp, I'd play Arbor Elf along with Pilgrim...
id cut one of the grove of the guardian. point is, an 8/8 is nice, but everything bigger than 5 in power needs trample, not vigilance. instead for one of the groves, and perhaps a plains, id add in 2 gavony township, ill tell you, im a control and midrange player, and both control and midrange hates the township. id also cut the growing ranks completely and 2 or 3 of the parallel lives. you dont need them for anything when you are ahead of your opponent, and they dont do anything if you are behind. you dont need things that makes more tokens when you have creatures, you need something that makes tokens when you dont have creatures. also, growing ranks, you might cast it at round 4, but it just sits there for a whole round, and if you are on the play vs a control deck, he will wrath on his turn 4 and then its another round where growing ranks just sits there and doesnt help you. the same goes for parallel lives. if you cut them, you will have space to play 4 instead of 3 intangible as it acually does something on the battlefield, and you can also add more token-spawner spells. also, instead of playing the fog who populates agenst aggro, because i dont believe it does anything agenst control, id play either Centaur healer, as it does more agenst aggro, or Loxodon Smiter who is better agenst control. and as my last comment, if you believe that you will get the mana to play armada wurm, then its fine by me, but where the heck is the thragtusk? that creature is good agenst everything, aggro dont like that you gain the 5 life (8 if you have trostani in the table) and control dont like that they have to kill it twice. midrange hates both the lives and that they have to kill it twice. if you are not convinced then let me tell you: before the rotation, Esper control who had the choice of picking win-conditions in bot white, black and blue decided to splash green for 4x thragtusk. in my eyes that usually says that the card is pretty OP. Mono black control did the same. 4x thragtusk. therefor you should play 1-2 and cut the armada wurms down to 1
1st... THX 4 spending time to write all this! U have made some points... Some of tham R considerable, but most U've said R wrong... When U have Parallel Lives & U cast for example a Midnight Haunting, U'll have 4 flyers instead of 2 & if U have a Virtue, or will play 1 in the next turn, it's a lot different, than without it... What U said about Growing Ranks I also thought about & seeing that U think the same makes me consider it again to drop the card... Tho, if I've made all the changes, oe just most of tham, I'd end up with a completely different deck wich would be quite slower & less competative... THX again & don't be shy to check my other decks I linked in descryption! :) ... I need suggestions on wich I should use on FNM!..
Hi nice deck!! kaare do have some point there was also thinking of it but one thing that you will miss if you remove growing ranks is this combo (let say you have parallel in game, trostani and growing ranks during your upkeep g.ranks will take effect and eventually trigger parallel lives and trostani given you're in mid-late game part) what do you think? Please visit my deck also http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=393827
Agreed, this is why I kept it... It is good in the late game & the opponent won't have enough enchantment destruction, if I play many... Tho, the combo U mentioned wouldn't be on board usually... ...but it's enough with Ranks & Parallel... :)
Nice deck, but I personally think with enough creature removal early on you don't need to waste time and spells on populating weenies.... 6/6 flyers are much better. Check out this winning deck. All Return to Ravnica cards. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=393964
Early removal could take out the Pilgrim & I don't really rely on it... U need to play everything at the right time, than U won't get caught... I won't play all my hand at top speed, if I oppose a strong control deck... U've mentioned 6/6 flyers... Well, the Hellkite U use costs 8 mana & it's tokens appear slowly... The Armada Wurm has trample, it costs 6 & it gives me abother 5/5 when it enters... & all I need is 1, expecially with Parallel lives &/or Populate, &/or Virtue...
I think entreat would be an awesome addition.
It would... I know, but do U have a suggestion what should I take out?? May be Growing Ranks?
Dude sweet! I love token decks and this one is beastly! I'd love to try it out! Mind givin' me some feedback on my token deck? It's modern, not standard, uses similar cards (in some respects) to yours. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=391482
http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=385280
YO, fcker! Stop spamming, if U have nothing to say about the deck in question!! I remember U spamming a lot be4 on my decks too... Get lost!.. ...checked your deck... It's not standard any more & it's not even competative...
heres a card i recomend over parralel lives(unless ur playing standard) doubling season, not only does it double tokens but lets say u have sumtn like primordial hydra tht gets twice as big everyturn, well if thats in play, it atcually gets 4x as big everyturn, doubling season doubles tokens and +1/+1 counters
also, i made a deck and i really badly need help on it, im a lil newer to mtg, ive been playn for a few monthes, i think i make decent decks, 3 of the few decks ive made are on top decks, i think this deck could be one of my best so far, heres the link http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=394042
Of course I'm playing standard... This is a standard deck... On extended & such, decks like theese doesn't stand a chanse... Tho, thx for the suggestion!.. :) I'll check your deck...
I went to what I thought was a standard (or draft) tournament and it turned out to be extended. Standard decks do stand a chance though very slim. I don't know what I'd +/- from the deck. I'd say fog or Safe passage, but druid's deliverance has it covered. Nice deck.
really good lookin deck poetmaster. I'm lovin your array of standard decks. I generally only play EDH, but all these decks have got me lovin standard. Anyway, to this deck - you've gone a slightly different root than I'd take - I would've gone with creatures which produce tokens on ETB, then included some restoration angels and seance's. But this approach is just as good, perhaps better! I think you could include a couple of entreat the angels, and maybe sb an increasing devotion. 15 1/1's from a single card is v nice, and would go nicely alongside the intangible virtue buff. Also, no thragtusk? You have no 5 mana spells in here... I think it could def benefit from 2 thragtusks. I would definitely sb 2 requiem angels. You're gonna have such huge throughput of creatures, but will be vulnerable to a wipe (if you have no rootborn defenses). If that happens, just then have an army of fliers instead. Anywho, thats my $.02, so hope you find some of it helpful.
Thanks, man! :) I'm glad U like my decks & your suggestions R helpful!.. Thragtusk is a card I reconsidered many times & I'll do it again... It is a very good card & may be instead of Growing Ranks I'll put it in... The Angel's ability is very nice, but I can't figure a way to put it in... Rootborn Defences is for that perpouse, I just have to keep it for the right times, it depends on what kind of deck I'm up against... Entreat the Angels... I wanna' put 'em in, I just have to figure a way... I have to choose between Thragtusk & Entreat, 'cuz I can't drop more cards from the corrent deck... Thanks again, my man!! :) Let me know whatcha' think of my other fresh decks!..
I'd sooner take out intangible virtue over growing ranks! You only have 4 cards (4* midnight haunting) which produce 1/1's, and thats where the intengible virtue is most useful. You have no 4/4 creatures, which will escape the reach of mortars with this enchant, so I don't think it adds massively. The thing that will really mess with this deck is cyclonic rift/devastation tide/sudden disappearance - you get hit with any of those, your boned.. and I'm not really sure how to get around that without including some blue, and messing up the mana base.. I'd be very tempted to add blue to this, and then I think you have something which will compete well against any other standard deck.. At the moment, it will do well against most, but has obvious weakness inbuilt into tokens, which are relied on utterly. In fact, you're including judge's familiar points to the fact you've already realised this, and done what you can to stop it. I just don't think it's enough with rift and ravings having miracle, against a blue deck running index's. I think over the weekend, I shall take this deck as a basis, and add blue to see if I can make it a bit more robust in the face of pinging creatures. I'll prob just make it worse, but worth a try:)
WOW, U R right!.. Mentioning Mizzium Mortars along with Intangible Virtue & my 2/2, 3/3 tokens made me think a bit... May be it's better to use only 2 Virtue & 1 Ranks... & add 2 Entreat... Or 1 Entreat & 1 Thragtusk.... What do U think?.. I will make a Bant version of Populate... I'll send a link to U somewhere, when it's done... Thanks 4 your effort, U've helped me a lot! :) Tho... I probably gonna' use my Grixis on FNM...
Glad I could help:) commented on your bant build. For once I think it may be a little off the money!
RATE AND COMMENT PLEASE I COULD USE THE HELP!!!!!!!!! red/blue http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=393944
I have commented on your deck & shared my suggestions, yet U haven't said a thing about the deck U've commented & send a link on... That is called spamming... That is not a thing U do aroung here!! If U send a link somewhere, U 1st at least share your opinion of the deck in question, if U have no suggestions...
BANT TOKENS! My first attempt of standard, please help! Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=394208
I understand the need of help, but not sharing your opinion &/or possible suggestions on the deck in question makes U a spammer... I have commented on yours... If U have something to say about this deck, please, don't be shy, 'cuz it's not perfected yet!.. THX!..
Populate is pretty neat, like a cheaper toned downed standard version of rhys ability. But I was thinking drop the thragtusk and put a forth armada wurm. Armada wurm is way better for this deck than thragtusk. Unless there is a specific reason you wanted him in here, for like mass removal or something. Also I think cloudshift would be awesome in this deck for armada wurm and if you keep him for thragtusk too =p This looks like a really fun deck to play btw, good build!
True about Thrag & Armada... A lot of "builders" suggested Thrag & I've finally listened & I realized, that I don't play flicker spells, like Restoration Angelm so why the fck would I use it??!.. Thanks for strenghten that thought in me!.. I'm taking out that son of an a.s!..
Of course! Glad I could help. Sometimes you gotta hear good and bad advice to know what the best thing to do for a deck is. I've done it plenty, where I've followed advice alot a people gave, just to find out it wasn't the best way to go with the deck even if everyone else thinks it is =p
Ever think of throwing in cloudshifts? Makes Thrag/Armada a lot more fun and can save creatures in general
Dropping Thrag, but THX! :) There is no point of using flicker spells now other than Armada & that's not enough reason...
Its pretty cool, but it sure is expensive :/
An expensive deck is above 400 dollas'... U shouldn't think I've spent 250 on this... I got the cards by verious means... I have a huge collection & I alwayes trade with players who like to play extended & such rather, than standard... I open boosters, I trade & on & on & on... I probably spent about 80-95$ on this deck... Not much...
i have a deck that is very similar to yours, you should try adding in 2 garruk primal hunters, i usually 3rd turn parallel and 4th turn garruk. you get lots of 3/3 pretty fast
That is truely fast, but not stabil in a competative circle... I have a Planeswalker with cmc 5 enter with 3 counters... It could either get instantly shot be4 I could use any abillity, or destroyed be4 my next turn... Not a bad idea, but Garruk wouldn't be much help in my location, or any other I usually play at... Relentless however is pretty good with the Veil Cured's deathtouch tokens :) ... I'm gonna' remove Growing Ranks & add 1... I'm thinking about dropping 1 Deliverance for a 2nd1, but I doubt it... Thank for the help! :)
great deck! check my deck out: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=393486
YO! Checked & suggested, since U've commented & post the link on my Grixis top deck... :) If U R interested, there is a 3rd top deck I have right now, wich U could check... It's Azorius & it's right under my Grixis...
well here you are again with a fun filled deck :)...... its great to have a site like this to post decks and share ideas.... and i really love my g/w... such fun combos you can do with these colors..... and i am sure there will be more wonderful decks from you in the near future.... i am now gonna go peek at your other decks.... seems the past week i have been working on some new decks.... being off work due to a bad back injury has freed up allot of my time ... keep on kicking butt hon :)
I'm glad U like my decks & I like the game - spirit of yours!.. :) Get well! Hope some1 "has your back"!.. :)
lol goof ball
YO! I'm not native... My mothers language isn't english, so would U tell me what is "goof ball"?.. I've heard this quite many times & I've never wondered what it means... :)
goof ball means you are silly... funny .... make me smile :) i would never say anything rude or mean to you honey :)
The new Selesnya does not play around. I was playing against my friend's selesnya deck the other day. It is nuts and packs allot of power very fast. Centaur and intangible virtue is such an amazing combo. Return to ravnica actually persuaded me to make a standard deck. Check it out: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=394875
YO! I'm the only1 who commented on this deck & it was yesterday... :) Check who's deck U comment on...really... ...sorry for sayin'!..
iv never been a fan of growing ranks really. yeah you can populate once on your upkeep but thats all it does. if you dont have a token on your side come your upkeep its a dead card. i'm more of a fan of parallel lives, its almost never a dead card really.
I like this idea... I might add some of this to my selesnya deck. If you got time please also check it out, any feedback is well appreciated!! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=393016
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very nice! HELP me with mine?? http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=397954
Ok, Draco... U spam all around my decks & U don't say a thing about the deck in question except for "Very nice! Help me with mine??" Quit your spamming on my decks, please, 'cuz I won't comment on yours any more... U R spamming through out all the top decks without sharing your opinion &/or suggestions... This is not the way U behave on this site!..
hey poetmaster i'm pretty sure he just copied you in a poor attempt to aggravate you
U mean Draco?.. Sure... It's obvious... ...& he is spamming all over on every top deck without adding any suggestions, or opinion... I've told him not to comment on my decks any more... He calls himselfe a genious... How ironic, that he seems quite retarded...... :)
I am really fond of this deck. I love the synergy that it has and the numerous possibilities. Very well done Poet.
Yea this is by far the best populate deck ive seen in standard. good job to you manAnyone mind giving me some advice on a combo I found yesterday? I think its pretty dope but its missing something and I don't know what. Please and thank you :)http://www.mtgvault.com/mymobbsdeep/decks/infinite-damage-and-life/