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UB with MBS
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Of all deck types I've seen, Ravager is the one I least expected to be revamped. I think I like this a bit better than the normal version, but I don't know about three mox opals MD... Perhaps Lotus Petal could replace one?
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Nooo way. Why do you even want to drop the mox? Its active t1/t2 every time! Lotus would make it more explosive, but not in a meaningful amount. To be honest, I've been wanting to revamp Ravager for a while. 3 mox md are amazingly consistant for getting me 3 mana t2. And dropping tezz wins thegame. If you have 4 art lands, drop him, look for a free artifact. Next turn is a 20 life differential. And that's assuming you only have 5 artifacts. You usually have ~10. I'm thinking about 4 of him, but I dunno what to cut
It IS hella consistent, but it doesn't usually see any resistance itself, the spells it spits out do. The problem arises, that I just have terrible luck and always see multiples in the same hand if I run three lol.
Ohhh... How exactly does that happen though? I mean... you win by T5/6... If you do happen to see multiple, toss it to Thopter Foundry (another innovation of mine for this deck that is AMAIZNG) or Ravager,
I don't think you understand my luck with artifacts, I have seen hands of nothing but platings and moxxen on a regular basis... For some reason I'm forbidden to run artifacts, and can't beat ANT.
You can't beat storm? Exactly what to do depends on your deck, but if you play affinity just bring in Ethersworn. If your Fish, just laugh at them, and if your anyone else run Chalice of the Void
Anything I've tried seriously is still up, the best one was oddly enough the Sauron deck... I don't know why, it just devastated storm.
That's bizarre to say the least. Try this deck and replace the Needles with Pyrexian Revokers set to LED. That would piss them off. Or play Fish
Updated list with recent testing results. Meekstone eats Fish. Still need to find a way to beat Combo, but this deck is pretty damn awesome.
Sidebord updated again. Not really sure about it, any ideas? I'm thinking its too linear still
Hahaaa, I just saw the fish comments! And what combo decks are you looking to beat? All the good ones play in completely different playstyles... Granted, Mindbreak does hit a good bit of them, but it's sadly not a cure-all.
TES and, even more, Spiral Fu-- I mean, Spiral Tide. Apparently some people other than me realized that decks awesome, it took multiple spots at Edison. There was also an Affinity deck in the top 8 but I think it was much worse than this one :/ Oh, I met my new best friend: Cannonist how the heck did I forget that card???
Ad Nazium, and Spiral @#$%... I like it, lol. Cannonist is pretty awesome man, I had three or so at one point, but made the mistake of trading them to get my playset of counterspell... Looking back makes me a saaad panda. I've also just given up on trying to build affinity, you've broken it more than I possibly could. I've actually started directing people to your list for testing against hyper-aggression, and so far your deck has about fourty wins against eight losses lol.
Only a 89% wining? Uh oh, I better fix that :P In all seriousness though, thanks a lot! I've won three legacy tourniments with this deck and I am still going strong. I love it.
Like I said man, your calling seems to be with artifacts =] And Cannonist is so mean.
Thanks. I think your a bit over simplifying it... All I did was build two Aggro decks :/
True, but I just think that these show a greater finesse than some of the other aggro decks you've made.
Joe, there's no being humble about this one... It clocked faster than a freaking storm gauntlet, not just mine, used a TON of them to see what methods work best. If I ever decided to play a pure aggro deck in legacy, this would be it. I've been testing all my decks against it, and even if they win, it's an incredibly uphill battle. My reanimator has won because of hurkyl's recall, to back up a stormtide trying to bomb tezzeret... That's about it.
... Insert humble comment here. @ Surewhynot: Thanks man ! Now I have a new goal :) @ Whiteandblue: You got luck that my deck hadn't produced any ornithopters then. I have never lost vs Reanimator. Also lucky that it didn't draw Extirpate
Oh it had them, but I hit cranial with a needle, so they weren't a threat. Also Hurkyl returned them all to his hand. I was hit by two extirpates, one on entomb, and the other on Iona... I've been working on the kinks in reanimator since I started this game, and hyper-aggression of any kind has been thought of.
Ah, so you were just really freaking lucky. Not much you can do about that.
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Tezz Affinity is in the FINALS in Dallas! Let's go!
We won! affinity took home 1st Place!
No love for Skullclamp? Other than that, I like this deck a lot. I've been running a lesser version of Affinity (I don't have any Ravagers but use Atog to similar, though not quite as awesome effect) and Skullclamp is the main reason I win some games if they do have early game disruption of some form. An example would be my friend's deck that can start turn one with "Dark Ritual, Inquisition of Kozilek, Hymn to Tourach." Makes it a much more uphill battle after that for sure. Etched Champion seems a bit slow, too. What about Master of Etherium in it's place? I know it's much easier to kill, but unlike the Champion, if they don't kill it that turn, they will lose to it. Champion is Great with Plating obviously (similar to Ornithopter) but outside of that, I just feel like the Master is better. Maybe not. Either way, just some ideas to ponder.
Thanks a lot! I have been going through a battery of tests recently and this list is not what I have anymore. I'll fix it tomarrow, but yes MoE is coming back. The thing about Etched is that even without boosts he wins you games. He can chump Tarmogoyf and KotR all day long. About Skullclamp: Yes, most decks get better if you add legacy banned cards :/
Oh man. Sad day! I thought Skullclamp was just banned in extended (which no longer matter after rotation and changes to the format). Well, I still play/love the card. Haha. I don't do legacy tournaments though. Just mostly casual type stuff with friends. But I guess if you don't want to play banned cards for your tournaments I'll forgive you.;) Haha. Oh, but what happened to the Disciples? Please don't tell me they're banned too...
No, I cut them by choice. It's a shock, I know, but I seriously don't think it makes the cut. Disciple is only good with Ravager, and we have access to really good guys now, so situational usefulness is not great. Besides, which card on my list do you think it is better than?
I can see that with but it's also just good if they have random artifact removal too. Umm, I would think that it would have to be a bit better in most circumstances over Ornithopter perhaps. Other than being an artifact, it is also pretty situational with what I see as less of an upside I'd think. I don't really play legacy which is probably pretty apparent, but it does seem to me like many decks are too fast and the deck is kind of narrow to not have some form of combo-style kill out of nowhere. Maybe I'm off on this, but I just can't see Affinity without Disciple when it's legal and available. :/
Ornithopter is actually really powerful in this deck. 0 drops are critical to explosive starts and Ornithopter usually deals more damage than Memnite. With 4 Signal Pest, 4 Cranial, and 4 Ravager the odds of him swinging for damage is very high, and his evasion is handy. Under the old design, I agree the combo was needed to be able to win past turn 5, but this has changed a lot with SoM and MBS. Etched Champ is unblockable by anyone (who except us has artifact creatures?) while also chump blocking Goyf, KotR, and everyone else. Mox opal is also an amazing card that makes having 3 mana turn 2 a high-probability thing. Signal Pest also makes a HUGE difference here, making turn three swings often for 6+ Finally, Tezzeret is a complete house. +1 free artifact, -4 Win is nothing to take lightly. He fills the win-out-of-nowhere function that Disciple held, while simultaneously giving card advantage. I seriously recommend you try testing this list. A similar list won the most recent SCGO, but I think Ravager>Enforcer.
Yeah, I have a similar list like I said, but it's much more budget. I don't own any Tezz and don't really feel like buying them or trading a bunch of my good stuff for them at the moment (especially since I will likely never enter a legacy tournament anyways). You've made solid arguments for your choices though, which I appreciate. Still not super keen on the Etched Champ but I guess I could be totally wrong since I have very limited testing with him. In the mean time, however... I think I'll stick to my budgeted list of Atogs and Disciples instead of the Ravagers and Tezz that I don't own.:/ Good luck with your list, though. Definitely will need to add the Signal Pest though. Great idea adding that. Just a card that eluded me I guess.
That's chill Edna! Tbh i wouldnt be able to afford it had i not opened two at the prerelease and got two in drafts. You seem to be a good deckbuilder, I'd like your ideas on some more of my decks :) My favorite style is combo, and I got a cupple cool combo decks, my favorite being the one I most recently uploaded, Painter's Spellbomb!
Nice deck, I wish I had the money for a couple of Tezzerets :( Anyway could you maybe take a look at my artifact Architect deck http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=163412
Thanks man! I got lucking and opened two at a prerelease, and two more in drafts. Sure I'll check out your deck
Please tell me your favorite flavor card: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=164531