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I've been playing around with decks in the new meta for extended, and Bant is looking nice. Here's a basic list
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I really want to go standard bant, lol. But I don't really know what'd be my win condition,
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I think Mirran Crusader is the obvious choice, 2/2 double strike and pro-black pro-green for 3 mana? AWESOME! The downside is that you can't use two of the three main pump effects I use here; Elspeth and Exalted. Its an interesting idea though. Secondary beaters could be Ezuri's Brigade (even in a no-metalcraft deck), or battlecry themed with Crusader, Paladin, and Hero
I think frost titan would be a great beat stick, even a baneslayer. because the green is obviously going to be used for mana fixing, i.e. lotus cobras and such. but mirran crusader is sooo good <3 in my boros, he wins games.
He is amazing, isn't he? I've LOVING him with my 8 Exalted triggers :) The Titan is an interesting idea, but I think an aggro build would be better.
Well I'm open for suggestions. i was thinking 4 bop, 3 lotus cobra, 4 squad hawks, 2 stoneforge, 2 frost 2 primeval, 3 mirran crusader. matched up with 2 gideon, the 1 jtms I have, and 2 garruk. then just 24 land, 2 day 4 mana leak, 3 cultivate, 2 preordain. lol but I'd love suggestions. :D
Drop the Titans. Curving out at 4 in this deck is very important. The thing that makes this deck is that its a powerful aggro deck that can still put up counter spell mana. Bant charm is my best friend
i decided to drop blue all together and just go green white aggro. uses gideon though, so I guess that's minor control, at least. :P the decks on my profile if you'd like to check.
wait, the stoneforges were useless without equip. Iunno, I need to give it some thought. But i realllly want to use gideon, lol.
Hey raggedjoe, I was wondering if you could just check my g/w aggro deck? (my latest one) I feel it's pretty solid and I'd love your opinion on it! :D thanks, man
Ok, I went through some intense testing and I LOVE THIS DECK! Powerful aggro, that can still put up counterspell magic is amazing. Still having difficulty with Fae and Scapeshift though. MVPs 8 ramp creatures: T2 KotR/Crusader is awesome. Bant Charm: The 'I do everything' spell Mirridan Crusader: This guy regularly swings for 10+ on turn 3. Yea, Exalted rocks.
So I have been thinking about replacing one Sword with either a Basilisk Collar or Behemoth Sledge. I think the Collar would be very good in the mirror, while the Sledge might be good vs Fae. The only problem with the Sledge is it cannot be equipped to Mirran Crusader, so it might not be worth it. Ideas?
basilisk collar... eh. I enjoy the card, but only as a sideboard option. sure, it gives your creatures deathtouch/lifelink, but in an aggro deck, I find that a boost is better than the two abilities. plus it's only good in certain matchups. I always found myself siding it out, to be honest. im not familiar on the other equip, but an equipment I love lately is bonehoard. 4 is a bit mana intensive, but it gives you a creature as it enters, and then it's only 2 to equip later on. it only takes 4 creatures in the grave to put it to good use, and then every creature you kill with it, it raises it's attack. thats just my 2 cents.
Bonehord is very interesting, but I don't think this deck wants to be in the position where that kind of card is good :/ Stoneforge can always cheat it in for 1W remember :)
you mean your deck doesn't want to be in the position where it destroys your opponents creatures for raw power? ;P
No, I mean I have won by the time they have enough dudes in the GY for it to be worth the mana cost :D Since it costs 6, you don't wanna cast it if theree are <4 guys in the GY... I win by turn 7 usually.
haha i understand that, but I'm not really an equip person, so I can't really offer much help.
Like the deck, but I'm not sure about how I feel about the three linvala's in the sideboard. I know the format likes it some activated abilities, but three seems like it would be unnecessary. And I think once rotation comes Grixis is going to be the shard to beat :P
Linvala completely shuts down Naya, Jund, and Elves. To avoid breaking the curve, she replaces Elspeth. GRIXIS? Are you joking? basically thier entire deck rotates out.... The real deck to beat will be Tempered Steel. Check out the list I created. Most PTQ players haven't caught on yet, but just check out what I realized
Oh, I'm not saying Linvala isn't awesome, I'm just saying that three seems a bit much. And I just like Grixis best, because it's the shard I have the most experience piloting. I just see some neat tricks that happen in it.
You should post your Grixis deck, I'd like to see it
I'll try, but so far all I can remember from the list was that I had three pyroclasms to deal with faeries till rotaion...
Wow. Thats a fail. How do you like the changes I made to this deck?
Spot on as always man, I'm interested to know how this is going against Fae though. I've never really liked having to play the aggro portion of bant against them, so I did my little valakut deck, and even it's shaky when dealing with them... One thing I'm not to sure about though, four stoneforge? I bring up Fauna Shaman/Buried Alive argument.
My main tech against Fae is Deglamer, Sword of Feast and Famine, and Mirran. It's an ok matchup, not great, but my main beater has pro black which is a major plus. Stoneforge may or may not be reduced, I'll have to test some more. The original version of this deck had 10 PtE/Mana Leak/Bant Charm, so getting the sword out was important to being able to drop threats and still have mana open for spells. Now that I have moved away from that, I'm unsure how useful she will be. I do like the additional 2 drop though, and am unsure what would replace her.
Deglamer and Mirran Crusader are the bane of my existence right now(guess whose been working on extended faeries?)... I always felt like stoneforge should be a three of, and I dunno if it'd work, but a singleton Fauna Shaman could make a nice piece of surprise tech.
Ewww Fae... Seriously, my main problem with Fae is its a well-established deck. Whats the fun if you don't to make shit up as you go along and still end up winning :) Not that there is no room for innovation... I'll let you in on a secrete... Fae wants to be in UBG right now. That's right, not UBW, UBG. I'll let you figure out why :)
Because green is the magical equivalent of steroids? I've never liked UBW Fae, only reason to splash I can think of is stoneforge; making it fae-go. And that's probably not even as good as faygo! UBG sounds interesting though, I'm going to have to look into the colour green it seems to find out what you're talking about...
Why do you have the Murmuring Bosk in here? There's no reason for it, is there?
Murmuring Blosk is amazing... It's one of the only extended legal lands that has a basic land type and produces multiple colors
knight of the relequary and that thing that only lets people untap one guy for each untap step i cant remember the name of the card right now >.<
In mytesting, KotR is actually not as good a choice as Rhox War Monk. Rhox can never be bolted, even turn 2, and lifeline is huge vs the growing popularity of Boros
Finest Hour would be a house here. As would Hero of Bladehold.
I've tested with and without finest hour and it really seems to be a win-more card. Hero is a great card, but this is not the deck for her. She needs a battlecry or WW deck, not a bant deck.
I played against pretty much this same deck with finest hour. It guarantees a win, more so than Rafiq or War Monk. Hero is downright broken with Finest Hour. Attack, Exalted, tokens, battlecry, repeat.
What do you propose I remove?
Rafiq, Ardent Plea, and War Monk have no real power anymore.
Really? Any why do you think that? I've found the War Monk so usefull I cut KotR for him.
You cut something that gets absolutely massive, that can speed you up for a 3/4 lifelinker? Wow... bad call. Rafiq is slow and not worth it since the thing you really want to swing with already has doublestrike. There's no good target for ardent plea in this deck. Best you could hope for is Noble or Stongeforge.
I guess cutting Rafiq might make sense. Rhox is better than KotR because in the games this deck loses, lifeline is huge. Rhox is much better vs Red or Boros than KotR is. I don't understand why Ardent Plea is bad still... Everry card in the deck is something I would like to see on the cascade, so your argument makes little sense. Thanks though.
Ardent doesn't really net you anything here. You gain no real advantage hitting a Noble, and stoneforge isn't great after the first one. Mirran Crusader should pretty much win Boros/RDW games by himself. The 3 life shouldn't really matter that much. if you only need him in 2 match ups find room in the board.
Ardent Plea will (almost) always net me +2 Exalted. That is a big deal, especially if I am behind. It really does save games. Also, I am in no way garenteed a Mystic before Plea, so it will sometimes grab me my first Mystic. You are right: if I have both Mystic and Mirran it doesnt help. But if that is the case I will win the game soon anyway. When I do NOT have an assured victory however, Ardent Plea does a great job of getting me back in the game.