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This is a deck that I've seen a few people ask for a good list for... So here is mine. It's a card or two off of Bryant's list last time I checked. The Epic Storm (TES) is a powerful, format-defining combo deck. Utilizing 5 colors, massive protection, 8 tutors, 8 dig spells, 3 enablers, 3 win-cons, and a wishboard, TES is one of the most robust combo decks in the game. Despite all this, TES is a blindingly fast deck that goes off T2-4 in most games.
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And this right here is why my ANT says 'combo-based', not tournament quality. THIS is tournament grade storm, this indeed is an epic storm. I however, have never liked Grapeshot in any deck. I understand its purpose, but I rarely ran into a situation where I actually had to use it. I find it a bit like Kird Ape has become for Zoo, once a proud member, but now outmoded by the current meta.
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Actually, I've been Grape'd after extracting all their other win-cons before. It was very unexpected. Now that I anticipate it, it isn't much a problem. Still, of any storm/combo deck, TES is very much so the kingpin. It's without question the hardest to extract, and is sometimes fast enough to out-pace Extraction! Thankfully, it IS ridiculously skill-based, and so that gives Extraction a surprisingly good edge. I think of it as TES is a golfer putting for the win, and right before they put, Extraction is the guy who blows an air-horn. =P
Scalding Tarn and no islands or mountains to fetch?
Ahhhh, the magic of Alpha duels. You just hit the reason they are so awesome. Underground Sea IS an island. And a swamp. And does not ETBT. same goes for volcanic island.
Oh, snap. I forgot about that. Brilliant.
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ok, vampiric and demonic tutor is a way better tutor than the cards you are playing..... infernal just seems meh compaired to them
Infernal is superior when used for the design of this deck. Also, both vampiric and demonic are banned from Legacy.
Infernal works fine with the design of the deck. Also, both cards u mentioned are banned in legacy
thought this was vintage, sorry, yeah...they are banned hardcore lol
So how exactly does the deck work? I'm a noob when it comes to legacy =P
TES is a combo deck that features a variety of win-cons. 4 Infernal Tutor and 4 Burning Wish are the main enablers of this deck, meaning that they are how one assembles the combo pieces. The idea is to use the mana-ramp and draw spells to obtain a high storm count, before casting one of the tutors to grab either Ad Nauseam (which then allows you to generate a ton of mana and storm and cast Tendrils for the win) or Empty the Warrens. Grapeshot is a backup win-con as well
you need to use one of my favorite cards of all time fast bond!
Except that card is useless in this deck... Pls don't spam
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*sigh* if you want your decks to get attention, actually build good decks, don't make your deck out to be good when it's not and spam other people's decks
Do what I do and just delete posts like this. When my decks make the top page, I don't like having them turn into billboards either.
trying the "draw sample hand" on this did get me ONE 4th turn win out of 5 tries the rest was alot of sitting there, I realize thats some bad luck but it also means there needs more consistancy. my ANT deck runs Diabolic Intent for better consistancy but thats not really an option here with yours which is why this and ANT have lost popularity with the banning of mystical tutor. Not a bad deck, but not what you make it out to be either
I have a feeling you might missunderstand if your record was that bad. Hitting 3 ramp spells into Wish into Empty the Warrens for 10 gobs is a win. Unlike ANT you don't gotta go Tendrils and usually don't. Don't know, but this might b the reason for your results. Or maybe your lack of experience means you don't see how to pull it off. Or you got crap luck. Idk
no, I understand that Wish to warrens is one of the win conditions, (just like most blecher decks) I just didn't see consistancy here... dont get me wrong I'm not saying this deck is bad, just not everything you are claiming it is. This is a good deck.
this deck looks to be quite epic and i understand it for the most part, the only issue im having is trying to plan out how one would use lions eye diamond correctly, anyone care to help me with this?
Lion's Eye Diamond + Infernal Tutor = Black Lotus + Demonic Tutor. You cast LED. You then cast Infernal Tutor and in response you activate LED. LED is a mana source and does not go on the stack and the cost (Discarding your hand) is payed right away. When your Infernal Tutor resolves you have no cards in hand and are thus Hellbent, enabling you to seach for any card. Pretty sweet Off course you can't use the LED to pay for your Infernal Tutor
Just an example opening hand and how I would play it (I am by no means an expert!) Hand: Duress, Lotus Petal, Rite of Flame, LED, Infernal Tutor, Gemstone Mine, City of Brass 1. Play Gemstone Mine, Duress for protection. Pass turn 2. Draw Orim's Chant, Play City of Brass, Lotus Petal and LED, tap both lands play Rite of Flame, sac Lotus Petal. You now have RRBB floating and a storm count of 3. Play Infernal Tutor, crack LED for BBB. BBBBR floating. Find Ad Nauseam and play it. Storm count now 5. Get enough cards to play 5 more spells and tutor or wish for Tendrils. Turn 2 win with Duress protection. If more protection was needed you could wait till turn 3 (Draw Dark Ritual) and play Orim's Chant for more protection.
Before, I had trouble seeing how this deck would work as well as everyone says it does, but after reading this... Wow! I suppose the initial draw makes or breaks this deck?
TES requires moderately aggressive mulliganing, yes, but many odd hands are playable. If you go to the Source you can find a great set of sample hands in the primer by the man who invented the deck.
This a nice storm deck, but tes usually only works in legacy, this flops a lot. Painter grind seems a lot more reliable for tournaments.
The thing about TES is that it is insane in the proper hands, but those hands are few and far between. TES will never be as popular as something like UR Painter, since UR Painter is a pretty straight forward deck. TES is all about planning and strategy. TEs rarely flops if you know what you are doing. Also, "TES usually only works in legacy" doesn't make much sense... Duh? Thats the format it is built for? Caw-Blade usually only works in T2...
I meant it only works in vintage, and I totally understand how TES works, and it's very inconsistent.
If you say so... Understanding how it works and being able to play it are two totally different things...
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I'm not trying to be aggressive. I Know how to play the deck. I don't want to start a trollfight. The fact that it's difficult to play doesn't necessarily mean it's the best there is.
I think I will go with raggedjoe here. TES is considered an established competitive deck in legacy and to say it is inconsistent is in my opinion wrong. As earlier stated I'm no expert, but I can combo of turn 2-3 most of the time. Having tried a few sample hands here on mtgvault is not a good way to asses if this is a viable deck (I don't know if you have actually played the deck thegreenestberg). I started out sitting with counters to keep track of mana, counting on my fingers and using obscene amounts of time to figure this deck out (goldfishing by myself). To your last point, I totally agree. There is no direct correlation between difficulty and success. But I will disagree that TES is inconsistent and only works in vintage. Peace out
Thank you Mads. Greenestberg: Mads is correct about there not being a correlation between difficulty and success, I suppose I was not clear with what I meant. TES is a powerful deck, but is greatly underrepresented at tournaments due to the difficulty of playing it competitively. You said that Painter is more reliable for tournaments, and in the average players' hands I would agree. If you are one of the people who are very good with this deck however, then it is a better choice
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I may have to build this deck someday especially if my freinds keep buying booster boxes
to say that this is the single most skill intensive deck ever built is pretty far from the truth. Really you just be carefull to build up your storm count and try to go off. Not that complicated to experienced players.
Well, if you are experienced enough I guess no deck is complicated to play. So I would say checking if experienced players find a deck hard to play is a bad way of assessing if the deck is complicated to play or not. If I had a friend who I just told the basic rules of MTG and I then let him play with EPIC storm and say a white weenie deck, I'm pretty sure he would find the weenie deck much easier to play. I'm not saying this is the most complicated to play (It seems players of every combo deck thinks their choice is the hardest to play), but it is definitely takes more skills than playing say weenie and burn decks. Yours truly
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