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Isn't milling just an addicting way to win? This is an infect version of my Jace's Mill deck. I think this deck might be a little more balanced, with more win conditions other than just milling. Why not draw 20 and make your opponent discard their library?(jace + 3 jace erasures) Original mill deck here http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=232742
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if your a stickler for 60 cards, you could run it without 2x elixir of immortality, 1 jace's archivist and a vapor snag.
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i agree u could make those changes just to make it 60 but personaly i like the deck as is. if anything the tides could be moved to the sb but really it looks good imo. i like it
Thanks. A lot of my decks always seem to run 65 cards until i come back to the deck a week later, when i am more unbiased to certain cards and cut the redundant and needless ones. lol Tides is a tad costly, but its there for rapid acceleration of the deck after turn 5. Once i get jace, ma with eight counters its over, (ideally).
Jace's Archivist doesn't get nearly enough love. He is an absolute monster in any deck. Combos with so many cards. You aren't even trying to combo him, but he already combos with Jace's Erasure. Ridiculous.
Haha, he really is a beast. And the point of the deck was to exploit the 3 jace cards that are still standard legal. So i did now about his ability and its combos. I focused on him in my first jace mill deck you should check it out. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=232742
*know... i do that all the time and ticks me off. haha.
Jace is expensive, although he does evade bolts. I don't know. Are the counterspells et al enough to slow down your opponent generally, before you get jace? Also, does the mana curve work usually? One more q: Do you usually win by infect or by mill, or either? Because if it's only by mill, you might want to replace infect with more defensive creatures. Either way, Thrummingbird was a great choice. Good deck!
Jace is expensive, but he's really the only card that cost much next to inkmoth nexus in the deck. As far as counterspells and the likes, idk yet... i haven't built the deck yet, it was more like an impulse than a sure long thought out planning processes. haha. But the sideboard is basically all counters, so if you need more you could switch out for them. And as far as the mana curve and infect or mill i couldn't tell you that either. If you do get a bad hand you just need to use jace archivist to draw a new one anyways. I have the majority of the cards in the deck, i could proxy it and see how it ran... The deck basically started from trying to make an original mill deck(Jace's Mill). Someone commented on adding inexorable tide to get more counters on jace. Then i thought why not just add more proliferate cards and infect creatures. That way you have more than one win condition. Haha didn't really answer any questions regarding the deck. But hey like i said the deck took me like 10 minutes to put together... And which defensive creatures do you propose? Im keeping it standard and my beloved gomazoas are no longer standard leagal(well soon).
Lol. By expensive, I mean CMC. As for defense, maybe... Spellskite (if are willing to buy) or maybe dissipation field? Also, ice cage or frost breath could slow them down, but at that point in time, you're wandering away from mill and towards control.
haha... right. I do that all the time, im almost always on a budget for decks so thats the first concern for me when the word "expensive" pops up. But yeah he does cost a lot, but its tied for the most expensive card. And those are great ideas. I love dissipation field. But i think ill try running as is and then update it form their based on how it runs against other decks. Thanks for the help!
Hi runner220, You asked for a little advice. First the Elixer of immortality should be cut. With no way to find them (trinket mage or artificer's intuition) they are likely to be too little help. Maybe replace them with either contagion clasp or tumble magnet. The Viral Drake seems like a pretty weak card in the deck. Too much mana cost. Replace with Steady Progress. Play around with cutting deck to 60 cards. Maybe remove Visions from Beyond and Island.
well this deck is based on mill so Visions from Beyond would fit in. I would also have to see how long it would take to get 20 cards in the graveyard. The new set offers alot of graveyard options now. The elixir is going to be a lucky type of draw, then you will need to hold it until all of your goodies are in the graveyard. Unless you have a way to find them, cut them. If you are milling yourself as well as them, most likely elixir will be in the graveyard. With the infect, i would have corrupted resolve main boarded over negate. I totally agree with viral drake. steady progress is 3 mana proliferates and you get to draw a card. Unless you predict getting hit by creatures, steady progress seems to be the way to go.
thanks. I wasnt really planning on milling my self to much. I mean with jace archivist i mill myself but i can play card from the hand too. So i never actually toss any cards without them going into my hand first. So thats why i had the Elixirs in there. I just wanted to make sure i had a way to get my graveyard back if i milled myself to far and the opponent was still standing or something, I guess i could sideboard them. As for the deck i see your point they really are slow and kinda of undead when replaced with steady progress. I did replace visions from beyond, i did feel like the card was kinda unneeded because by the time either player had 20 cards in their graveyard, i had more efficient way of drawing and milling. Thanks for the help both of you!! I will probably sideboard visions of beyond and elixir.
Anyone have any other suggestions?
shreiking drake with inoxerable tide is made keep casting the drake returning himself to hand and proliferate for well lots !