Dega Vampires

by Saoshyant_4329 on 24 April 2013

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Deck Description

Black & Red are already Vampire's strong colors, and splashing white gives us some really nice options, such as the Blood Baron and Sorin. These 3 colors give us a pretty flexible manabase and a great removal package (plus some early-game presence from Lingering Souls), making it an effective midrange deck with a lot of lifelink, so the Baron (the guy at the top of this deck's curve) will very often be a 10/10 flier when he drops.

Any comments or criticism are appreciated, and I'd love to be able to improve this list!

Deck Tags

  • Standard
  • White
  • Black
  • Red
  • Vampire
  • Tribal
  • FNM
  • Lifelink
  • Aggro
  • Dragon's Maze

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Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for Dega Vampires

The Baron is a win-more card. If he drops as a 10/10 flier, you are most likely going to win the game regardless of whether or not he hits. And to be honest, White I would rather just drop white for Nocturnus, since he will be better than Blood Baron 9/10 times.

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Posted 24 April 2013 at 19:01

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The blood baron is there because his dual protections guard him from more than half of the common removal seen in the format right now. His other ability isn't even a concern to me, as a 4/4 lifelink withdual protections is already a great deal for 5 mana. White gives me Sorin, Lingering Souls, and access to great sideboard options to fight a lot of decks in the meta. Vampire nocturnus is just bad for any semi-competitive deck, seeing as 1/3 of the deck are lands, which are colorless and wont give me any help. If I need the Lord effect, I have Bloodline keeper, who is much more reliable than the nocturnus.

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Posted 24 April 2013 at 19:28

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Just ignore the last four lines on the Baron. He is a 4/4 with protection from the two heavy removal colors.
4 toughness saves him from Searing Spear, making him very tough to remove for red, too. Also Lifelink turns him into an 8 point life-swing per turn, 10 with Sorin's Emblem.
Mizzium Mortars, Sacrifice and Board Wipes are among the few common removal spells that can actually remove him, which isn't a lot.

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Posted 24 April 2013 at 19:30

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Against Naya? Trades with tusk and dies to mortars. It also gets outraced.
Against Esper? It WILL get wiped or countered
Against URW? See above.
Against Rites? Trades with tusk and gets heavily outraced.
Blood Baron's Protection is less relevent to standard removal than Obzedat's exile clause (anti sorcery/wipe>Problack/white). He IS NOT an 8 point life swing most of the time (he is mostly a 4 point) and again, ghost daddy is way better (also a 4 point life swing if blocked). He may be a solid choice for aristos, but anywere else he is subpar. Overall, Blood Baron is a great blocker vs some decks if you can land him before losing, but not a great overall card. Speaking of aristos, it is the only real good tier 1 RWB deck (vampires are not) and those SB options better serve a better deck. This is something cool to run at FNM though.

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Posted 24 April 2013 at 22:13

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@helios:

Cruncher meant it was an 8 life swing because as they lose 4 life, you gain that 4, which puts an 8 point difference between your two life totals. And we can't say that Ghost Dad is strictly better because both creatures have a lot of variance between them, and they don't play the same roles. And I'm not making this to be a tier 1 Standard deck that'll beat the top archetypes at PTQ's and SCG Opens, so this doesn't need to be optimized to fight against all of those decks. I'm not even sure as of now if I'll take this to an FNM, as a lot of the current vampires I own from this list have altered/extended artworks, as do the shocklands, which may not make them useable outside of casual games, depending on what my head judge says about them.

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Posted 25 April 2013 at 03:54

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I know what he meant. It's only an 8 point swing if he connects though (which is what I'm saying) and assuming that he does, Ghost Daddy in the same situation would be better. I originally posted on my phone saying that this would be playable probably in an FNM but i mishit my screen and i didn't feel like retyping the message. Alternate art should be fine:
Artistic modifications are acceptable in sanctioned tournaments, provided that the modifications do not make the
card art unrecognizable, contain substantial strategic advice, or contain offensive images. Artistic modifications
also may not obstruct or change the mana cost or name of the card.
^From the tournament rules PDF
As far as comparisons between Ghost Daddy and Blood Baron, they are 5 drops in the same color. Blood Baron can block, but Obzedat is harder to kill, and assures life loss regardless of attacking.

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Posted 25 April 2013 at 04:14

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Well with the new old Putrefy Obzedat will have some trouble against Junk, also against a deck with Black/White creatures Obzedat could possibly only do his +2 -2 each turn while being chump blocked whereas the Baron can be unblockable. It really depends on the kind of deck you're against, but I think in general (so not in this deck) having both Obzedat and the Baron (the Baron in the sideboard) will be useful as Obzedat Dodges wraths while the Baron dodges target removal. Your point about trading with Tusk... well that's why Thragtusk is so popular, he trades with almost anything.

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Posted 25 April 2013 at 08:46

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@cruncher: Baron is almost NEVER unblockable except vs zombies. Putrify is still a 3 mana kill that in this meta, is essentially murder + no regenerate. I can see Baron in SB but Baron still loses hardcore to junk anyway (craterhoof could care less about life total, and you will never get the pump with thragtusk reanimation). He could see play in Aristocrats though.

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Posted 25 April 2013 at 21:28

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Really like this deck. Will probably change a few things so its more budget for me :x

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Posted 25 April 2013 at 16:41

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are you looking for the searing spears? if so you know where to find me on friday.

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Posted 13 June 2013 at 05:37

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True, but I'm not building this deck as of right now. Mainly working on my cube. This would be an awesome one to complete later on though!

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Posted 13 June 2013 at 05:39

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ok. Well ill have the spears if you ever need them

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Posted 13 June 2013 at 15:32

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